America's Gun Violence
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
Heresay.Gern Blansten said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356unsung said:
Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.mrussel1 said:
I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family. I have the same. I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom. I am supportive of resource officers in the school. My district has them today. What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.unsung said:As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.
The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.
It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.0 -
social media increases bullying 10000000X. I would not want to grow up with today's technology. Unfortunately I think this is one of many reasons the we have gun violence in this country. And yes I realize the rest of the world has social media but here in america we have all those guns that kids can easily access.Meltdown99 said:josevolution said:
I agree the fucking bullying has to stop on all levels ...brianlux said:
Somehow, somefucking how because I don't know how to do this, but somehow stop kids from turning into bullies. My wife told me about an article by this guy who said he had planned a mass shooting at his school because he was sick to death of being bullied. The only reason he didn't carry out his plan was because he was too stoned. I don't know if all these details are correct but the point is if we stopped the bulling, some of these incidents wouldn't happen.benjs said:Can we summarize the suggested actions (for either handling the gun problem in schools or public areas)? Not the reasons behind them, just strictly the actions themselves. At this point, I think I’ve heard:
1. Arm teachers with tasers
2. Arm teachers with guns
3. Deploy armed guards in schools
4. Deploy armed guards in public facilities
5. Ban guns
6. Ban assault type weapons
7. Increase gun control
Have I missed any?
It also doesn’t help that people in charge do not seem recogonize that every person at that school is traumatized .... a generation of young people are being traumatized mentally and likely not getting the help they need, which may lead to bullying...I thought it was tough when I was young...didn’t have this going on that often.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
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It's not hearsay that the weapon was designed as a replacement for the M-14. Remember you said it's not a weapon of war, when it certainly was designed to be. I think it's irrelevant how the inventor would feel about it today.unsung said:
Heresay.Gern Blansten said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356unsung said:
Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.mrussel1 said:
I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family. I have the same. I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom. I am supportive of resource officers in the school. My district has them today. What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.unsung said:As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.
The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.
It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.0 -
Russel, I own two m1 garand s, obviously weapons of war. Cool to own? Realize they aren’t from 1945 and 1942. .mrussel1 said:
It's not hearsay that the weapon was designed as a replacement for the M-14. Remember you said it's not a weapon of war, when it certainly was designed to be. I think it's irrelevant how the inventor would feel about it today.unsung said:
Heresay.Gern Blansten said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356unsung said:
Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.mrussel1 said:
I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family. I have the same. I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom. I am supportive of resource officers in the school. My district has them today. What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.unsung said:As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.
The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.
It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I'm pretty sure he was kidding!mcgruff10 said:
He obviously has never stepped foot in front of a class! lol.brianlux said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that!Halifax2TheMax said:
And you were still overpaid.brianlux said:Teachers and all that "time off" LOL.
I remember my teaching days. Lesson plans, reading, correcting papers, material requisitions (AKA begging for supplies), after school meetings, board meetings, fund raising, teacher-parent conferences, extra curricular activities, counseling, refresher courses at the college level, etc.
Oh yeah, all that time off.
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Yupbrianlux said:
I'm pretty sure he was kidding!mcgruff10 said:
He obviously has never stepped foot in front of a class! lol.brianlux said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that!Halifax2TheMax said:
And you were still overpaid.brianlux said:Teachers and all that "time off" LOL.
I remember my teaching days. Lesson plans, reading, correcting papers, material requisitions (AKA begging for supplies), after school meetings, board meetings, fund raising, teacher-parent conferences, extra curricular activities, counseling, refresher courses at the college level, etc.
Oh yeah, all that time off.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
An M1 Garand without a BAR modification can shoot what.. 10 rounds without reloading? That's similar (less than) to many hand guns. I also don't believe it carries a bullet nearly as deadly as a .223 and certainly isn't metal piercing from 500 yards like an AR and its variants. If I'm wrong, correct me.mcgruff10 said:
Russel, I own two m1 garand s, obviously weapons of war. Cool to own? Realize they aren’t from 1945 and 1942. .mrussel1 said:
It's not hearsay that the weapon was designed as a replacement for the M-14. Remember you said it's not a weapon of war, when it certainly was designed to be. I think it's irrelevant how the inventor would feel about it today.unsung said:
Heresay.Gern Blansten said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356unsung said:
Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.mrussel1 said:
I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family. I have the same. I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom. I am supportive of resource officers in the school. My district has them today. What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.unsung said:As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.
The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.
It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.
But if you notice I have not advocated for a gun turn in program. The AR's capacity, speed, accuracy and ability to make automatic leads me to my conclusion that these should no longer be sold and hopefully phased out completely from the streets eventually.0 -
Sorry - just noticed your second part.. they aren't WWII era? What are they then? It went Springfield to M1 to M14 I thought.0
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My bad on that!! Sorry Halifax.brianlux said:
I'm pretty sure he was kidding!mcgruff10 said:
He obviously has never stepped foot in front of a class! lol.brianlux said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that!Halifax2TheMax said:
And you were still overpaid.brianlux said:Teachers and all that "time off" LOL.
I remember my teaching days. Lesson plans, reading, correcting papers, material requisitions (AKA begging for supplies), after school meetings, board meetings, fund raising, teacher-parent conferences, extra curricular activities, counseling, refresher courses at the college level, etc.
Oh yeah, all that time off.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
My opinion, those are not even in the same stratosphere as an AR or modern semi. 30 aught is powerful but 8 rounds gives time to counter/flee or whatever. What do you think?mcgruff10 said:
Yes ww2 and Korea. 30.06 semi auto 8 round enbloc clip.mrussel1 said:Sorry - just noticed your second part.. they aren't WWII era? What are they then? It went Springfield to M1 to M14 I thought.0 -
No need to apologize. Teachers are not paid nearly enough for what they do and the impact they have. I can still name 5 teachers that had a huge impact on my K-12 life:
Ms. Barbara, third grade. She lived with Miss Pitts and was queer before we knew what queer was. She wore all black or leopard print and drove a black Cadillac and reminded us of Cruella DaVille. She also hosted an afternoon chess club and made us read aloud and walk, pacing or reading and walking so we ended the sentence at the end of the aisle between the desks. When she leaned against the chalk board in all black dress, the lesson would transfer to her back and we’d all snicker. She also totally missed her lips with her bright red lipstick and once taped a kids mouth shut. Mike Klinkhammer was his name.
Mrs. Loomis, 6th grade. She taught me math one on one because for the life of me I couldn’t figure it out in class. She’d take me down the hall to the cafeteria and work with me day after day. I still suck at math. But she tried hard, had the patience of a saint and never gave up.
Mr. Rossati, 8th grade. Home room and social studies. He let us play music in homeroom before classes started and incorporated music and music history into social studies lessons. He was cool. Listened to a lot of Led Zep and Neil Young in that class. Also let us kill the last 20 minutes of class in the warmer weather by letting us go outside and sit on the bleachers.
Mr. McEniney, 12th grade ecology. Planned and took us on really cool field trips and looked the other way. A lot. Was also very cool, particularly when calling attendance, busting on us or when he announced your name over the PA at football games.
Mr. Laffy, 12th grade political science. He had us debate and read the paper every day and we reported out on the days news based on what you had been assigned, International, National, state, local, sports, etc. small class of 12 and we paired off and debated an assigned topic.
Each and every one of them inspired me, reached me, saw my potential where I saw none, got me excited to learn and made a huge impact on my intellectual development. Without them at any point along the way, I could have been totally lost. As it is, I’m only half lost. Teachers don’t get paid nearly enough and have my utmost respect.
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I own two of them so I am ok with them lol. Definitely not in the same league as an ar or ak.mrussel1 said:
My opinion, those are not even in the same stratosphere as an AR or modern semi. 30 aught is powerful but 8 rounds gives time to counter/flee or whatever. What do you think?mcgruff10 said:
Yes ww2 and Korea. 30.06 semi auto 8 round enbloc clip.mrussel1 said:Sorry - just noticed your second part.. they aren't WWII era? What are they then? It went Springfield to M1 to M14 I thought.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Halifax, awesome stories!!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Everyone knows that teachers are all overpaid underworked leftists that only want to brainwash the children0
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I grew up through the school system 2001 - 2014. I’d say half my teachers were useless garbage, and the other half were super awesome and impactful. Starting salary in AK is $51,000 for high school and I’m not sure about k - 8. Some teachers deserve more, but some suck bad. Just my opinion.0
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unsung said:
Heresay.Gern Blansten said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356unsung said:
Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.mrussel1 said:
I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family. I have the same. I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom. I am supportive of resource officers in the school. My district has them today. What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.unsung said:As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.
The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.
It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.
Guns are weapons of war
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_firearm
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Guns were invented, developed, designed, & evolved to make it easier for people to kill as many other people as possible
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But we're going to arm them. Ok. No money to pay them, but a bonus for carrying a firearm as a volunteer. Fuck this country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17048162/west-virginia-teacher-strike-public-schools
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Sadly no. You put a lot of words in my mouth and made many false assumptions.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mattsl1983 said:
You are exactly the type of person that you can’t have a conversation about gun control with. Just read your response and put it in context with your reply. You create a huge huh? What?oftenreading said:
No, I for one am not going to agree to your false and misleading statements. “Parading children out by pushing an ideology on them” .... you think teens can’t think for themselves and decide whether they are interested in gun control or not? You think that gun control is by definition a false ideology? And finally, you think that the republicans and even the NRA don’t “parade children” when it suits them?mattsl1983 said:It’s way to hard to follow every response that debates this or that.
Can we not agree on better background checks?
Statistically can we not agree that the ban didn’t change anything. You can’t argue statistics.
Can you not agree that parading children out by pushing an ideology on them is wrong?
can we not agree that something needs to change?
i guess I don’t understand this idea that if you aren’t for banning guns then you don’t care.
Im all for this “common sense” reform, just what exactly is it?
And also I disagree with your characterization that the ban achieved nothing.
And yes, I firmly believe that at the age of 14 to almost mid to late 20’s, a person is so directly influenced by ideas they think that they think work, that they haven’t realized the different between reality and ideology. And if you want to pretend that a 17 year old has it all figured out for themselves, then you are, well I’m not going to name call but yea...
It’s east to target laws, the infamous NRA. These are all things that you, and this is a very important word, that “you” feel like you can control. So I just say keep fighting your fight. But eventually you will rub out of ideas that that you think you can control and the world will probably be worse off.
So I guess you are saying to Brian something like, "Learn how to cope with the status quo because the US is incapable of making any meaningful change effort with regards to gun control."
Station Navy Seals in schools and be prepared to gun down 'those dumb teenagers' capable of acquiring AR15s and hell bent on murdering many people, but incapable of formulating independent thoughts (I'm paraphrasing you again in your response to Reading).
You might be right. Seeing the arguments against gun control and seeing things like who you elected as your president... your country just might not have the ability or will to pull off the required changes necessary for a safer society.
It's too bad.
Hey... what state do you think your next mass shooting is going to be in? What's the over/under for fatalities?
As I clearly stated, we both on the points I gave can agree and disagree. A solution can come from being grown up and talking. Not becoming a sensationalist or putting words in the other persons mouth. It’s a point of okay, we have defined our common ground, let’s go from here. I’m sure his ideas can teach me something I haven’t thought about, and I’m sure mine can do the same.
Lets try and be adults and not try to regurgitate your favorite MSNB, CNN, Fox News anchor who feeds opinions and personal analysis.
But it if that’s what you got out of it, good for you.0
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