America's Gun Violence

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  • camsjam
    camsjam Posts: 375
    The comparison of armed teachers to air marshals and pilots is apples to oranges. Air marshals are federal officers employed by the department of homeland security, not airline employees. Pilots are employed by the airline and a huge percentage earned their aviation license though years of military service. Some pilots do in fact carry a personal firearm while flying. However their purpose for doing so is to defend the cockpit if the door is breached and to prevent control of the aircraft being taken over like 9/11. They would not run out guns blazing to take out a shooter- their responsibility, to both their employer and the public onboard, is to land the plane safely.  The other consideration is these mass murderers don't care about even their own lives. This last mass shooter is the first one I know of that left the scene after shooting. All of the others Vegas, Sandy Hook, Columbine either killed themselves or enabled law enforcement to kill them. Thinking that another person, who will not have an automatic weapon, will deter them is wishful thinking. And the idea a SIGN would stop them is just ridiculous.
  • camsjam
    camsjam Posts: 375
    Teachers are already such an unappreciated job in our society asking them to volunteer for this responsibility in addition to educating our youth is just so sad...And pointless for many of the above mentioned reasons.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited February 2018
    unsung said:
    That is why I need a firearm, and I will make the decision on which to protect my family with.

    Cowards.

    Maybe we can get retired military to stand in as guards so the police don't cry themselves to sleep at night.


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies/index.html?sr=twCNNp022318parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies0436PMStory&CNNPolitics=Tw
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    That is why I need a firearm, and I will make the decision on which to protect my family with.

    Cowards.

    Maybe we can get retired military to stand in as guards so the police don't cry themselves to sleep at night.


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies/index.html?sr=twCNNp022318parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies0436PMStory&CNNPolitics=Tw


    Right, you need a gun because you're not a coward.  

    Gun nuts are the biggest cowards there are.  The NRA was built on fear mongering and you let them piss the kool-aid right down your throat.  
  • unsung
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    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    That and voting for Clinton once gives you street cred, huh?
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  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    That doesn't make you any less of a coward.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
  • unsung
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    That doesn't make you any less of a coward.
    Internet tough guy.
  • unsung
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    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    From David Simon creator of "The Wire ".......


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
    Guns are weapons of war
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
    It was designed to replace the M-14 and to combat the AK-47.  I can be easily modified to almost fully automatic.  It's not a defensive weapon.  
  • tbergs
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    Bentleyspop said:
    From David Simon creator of "The Wire ".......


    I love David Simon. Just finishing up my 4th full run through of The Wire.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Everybody else noticing all of the companies cutting ties with the NRA? Delta and United are the latest.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    tbergs said:
    Everybody else noticing all of the companies cutting ties with the NRA? Delta and United are the latest.

    It's fantastic.

    When people on here defending the right to arm themselves with machine guns sneer at people expressing their outrage asking them, "What are you going to do?"... they should know that their voiced displeasure throughout various mediums adds to the volume of discontent that ultimately places pressure on companies such as Delta to sever ties with the devil.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,159
    Why and for what purpose would Delta or United have ties to the NRA? Sponsorship of their convention? Advertising in their member newsletter? Something else?
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  • Gern Blansten
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    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356

    The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.

    It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.
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  • benjs
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    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356

    The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.

    It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.
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  • RiotZact
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    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    As I have said a hundred times, I do not support the NRA.
    I have no issues with you having a gun protecting your family.  I have the same.  I do have an issue with poorly trained teachers having weapons around my children in a classroom.  I am supportive of resource officers in the school.  My district has them today.  What I'm adamantly against is having semi auto rifles being legal weapons.  
    This isn't about "banning the 2A", it's about common sense regulations on weapons of war, not protection.  
    Semi auto rifles are not weapons of war.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356

    The creator of the AR-15 seemed to believe otherwise.

    It is tiresome proving you wrong. Fucking ponderous.
    Here, try explaining it to my friend here, you will probably have an easier time getting it through his head. 


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