America's Gun Violence

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Smellyman said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    vaggar99 said:
    if everyone just carried a gun, this sort of thing would never happen. 

    This. Yesss!

    Little shitbird walks into school... goes to pull his AR15 out to kill all the kids... and the custodian, foods teacher, and hall monitor quickly pull their 9mms out and make Swiss cheese out of him.

    Problem solved.
    Then nobody knows who original shooter is and everybody starts shooting.  Everybody dies.  May the best shooter or hider win!

    Dammit.

    (You know both of us were clowning around right? The old 'if everyone had a gun' argument is the stoopidest argument in any debate I have ever heard).
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Of the 30 deadliest shootings in the US dating back to 1949, 19 have occurred in the last 10 years, and the latest happened this week.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/health/parkland-among-deadliest-mass-shootings-trnd/index.html
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Smellyman said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    vaggar99 said:
    if everyone just carried a gun, this sort of thing would never happen. 

    This. Yesss!

    Little shitbird walks into school... goes to pull his AR15 out to kill all the kids... and the custodian, foods teacher, and hall monitor quickly pull their 9mms out and make Swiss cheese out of him.

    Problem solved.
    Then nobody knows who original shooter is and everybody starts shooting.  Everybody dies.  May the best shooter or hider win!

    Dammit.

    (You know both of us were clowning around right? The old 'if everyone had a gun' argument is the stoopidest argument in any debate I have ever heard).
    yup
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Columbine
    Sandy Hook
    Fort Hood
    Pulse Nightclub
    Texas Church
    Vegas
    Florida High School

    Get used to it folks, if you’re not already, because it happens about every 2 1/2 to 3 weeks. More if you count the ones that don’t really register. 

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Columbine
    Sandy Hook
    Fort Hood
    Pulse Nightclub
    Texas Church
    Vegas
    Florida High School

    Get used to it folks, if you’re not already, because it happens about every 2 1/2 to 3 weeks. More if you count the ones that don’t really register. 

    MAGA
    Make Automatic Guns Available?
    Make All Guns Available?
    Murder All Great Americans?
    Mass Assassinaters Group of America?

    It's a hopeless situation...
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts
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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,798
    I can't even begin to comprehend this, or how anyone can think there isn't a problem...


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  • unsung
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    camsjam said:
    tbergs said:
    Fuck anyone who justifies the ownership of an AR15. They're the most useless creation that kill more people than any other rifle available to the public.

    "Officials believe the gunman had one AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle, but it was unclear if he had any other weapons."
    THIS!!!  There is NO reason for a civilian to own this kind of gun. 




    Then who should?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Republicans have so much blood on their hands.  They are spineless, greedy, hypocrites.   Do something!!!!  It may not stop every shooting but at least do something!!!   
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    What more will it take for guns to be banned in the US?
    So many mass shootings already.
    I'd hate to be a student there, I'd be anxious as hell wondering if my school would be next.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    I try very hard to not be a 1 issue voter.....but it's hard with crap like this.  
    There are lots of serious issues to tackle (climate change, Better tax reform ;), Immigration, etc)...but I'm leaning towards this being the biggest issue for me for the past I don't know how many years.  
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    It's pretty disgusting to watch Fox cover this and work so hard to avoid mention of the firearm at all.
    Talking about warning signs (for which they won't allow any action of course) and security failures, mental health and everything under the sun except for details about the firearm used, how it was acquired, or what they would do to prevent this obviously troubled teen from having access to a mass casualty weapon.
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  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,633
    unsung said:
    camsjam said:
    tbergs said:
    Fuck anyone who justifies the ownership of an AR15. They're the most useless creation that kill more people than any other rifle available to the public.

    "Officials believe the gunman had one AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle, but it was unclear if he had any other weapons."
    THIS!!!  There is NO reason for a civilian to own this kind of gun. 




    Then who should?
    police or military
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Deployed military troops only, police shouldn't have them either.

    Unfortunately, our moronic and paranoid society can't put Pandora back in her jar.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    bootlegger10 said:
    Republicans have so much blood on their hands.  They are spineless, greedy, hypocrites.   Do something!!!!  It may not stop every shooting but at least do something!!!   
    Children will continue to die because Republicans are afraid that they will lose their seat if they 'do something'.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    Weird none of the gun advocates that post here haven’t this time ...could it be they are getting their fill of these massacres? When will the rest of the country get full of these events it seems we consume them every month , they happen we all get riled up Senate.& house all send their condolences and after about a week it’s over back to the golf courses ...yet we claim this nation to be the most advanced ..
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    josevolution said:
    Weird none of the gun advocates that post here haven’t this time ...could it be they are getting their fill of these massacres? When will the rest of the country get full of these events it seems we consume them every month , they happen we all get riled up Senate.& house all send their condolences and after about a week it’s over back to the golf courses ...yet we claim this nation to be the most advanced ..
    To be fair to the gun nutters, we do collectively freak the fuck out on them when they enter this thread directly after a tragedy.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    rgambs said:
    It's pretty disgusting to watch Fox cover this and work so hard to avoid mention of the firearm at all.
    Talking about warning signs (for which they won't allow any action of course) and security failures, mental health and everything under the sun except for details about the firearm used, how it was acquired, or what they would do to prevent this obviously troubled teen from having access to a mass casualty weapon.
    Shockingly, the president’s tweet mirrors this thinking. 

    What. Weak and ineffective president we have. Doesn’t even talk to the country when something like this happens. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    edited February 2018
    You know mental illness is certainly PART of the problem and part of the solution here.  But I'm tired of gun nuts that use it as a freakin excuse to do nothing about the other parts of the problem!

    I feel like the liberals got worked on this issue.  They finally got people talking mental health so they went with it and now the Pro-anygunIwant crowd is using it an argument FOR their side of the discussion.  Sickens me.
    Post edited by cincybearcat on
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    rgambs said:
    Deployed military troops only, police shouldn't have them either.

    Unfortunately, our moronic and paranoid society can't put Pandora back in her jar.
    On the topic of putting her back in her jar, how does a country successfully collect all guns, including those of traceable and legally obtained firearms, and untraceable and illegally obtained firearms? To play devil’s advocate, I could see an argument being made that this would likely result in civilians surrendering their firearms and those with nefarious intent not, leaving only armed criminals.
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