Off-i-call can’t beat 3 shitty QBs for the win thread
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JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
But those moments were situational that literally screamed for sensibility. I get what you are saying, but in my opinion... these gaffes are not noted strictly with the benefit of hindsight. They were significant blunders that had most slapping their foreheads in the moment and as they unfolded before knowing the result of the play.
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Exactly. I get so sick and tired of hearing about that god damn Seahawks play. They ran that play several times during the regular season and it had an 80-something % success rate. Carroll went with a call that worked way more often than not, it just so happened that it didn't work at that one crucial time in the Super Bowl. I will never be of the opinion that it was "the dumbest play call in the history of sports" like everyone seems to think. It was an excellent call, it was just defended perfectly.JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
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JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
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Situational or not, I don't believe there is a single person not named Marshawn Lynch who would have criticized Pete Carroll for that call had the pass been completed. Not one.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
But those moments were situational that literally screamed for sensibility. I get what you are saying, but in my opinion... these gaffes are not noted strictly with the benefit of hindsight. They were significant blunders that had most slapping their foreheads in the moment and as they unfolded before knowing the result of the play.
It's the same with Atlanta. Quinn knew that his defense was spent. We know this because there is literally video of him saying they are "gassed" on the sideline. So he stayed aggressive and tried to win the game by putting the score out of reach. It didn't work but there is a clear logic in the thinking.
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a FG would have put the score out of reach and they were in range, until they weren't.JimmyV said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
But those moments were situational that literally screamed for sensibility. I get what you are saying, but in my opinion... these gaffes are not noted strictly with the benefit of hindsight. They were significant blunders that had most slapping their foreheads in the moment and as they unfolded before knowing the result of the play.
It's the same with Atlanta. Quinn knew that his defense was spent. We know this because there is literally video of him saying they are "gassed" on the sideline. So he stayed aggressive and tried to win the game by putting the score out of reach. It didn't work but there is a clear logic in the thinking.
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There is some truth to what you have said here (and in your previous post).JimmyV said:
Situational or not, I don't believe there is a single person not named Marshawn Lynch who would have criticized Pete Carroll for that call had the pass been completed. Not one.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:JimmyV said:You're a moron if something doesn't work and gutsy if it does. If Wilson completes that pass then the same people crushing Carroll would be praising him for thinking outside the box. If Atlanta finishes off the Patriots those same people would be talking about how Dan Quinn stayed aggressive and coached to win. Neither happened so people say both were wrong.
But those moments were situational that literally screamed for sensibility. I get what you are saying, but in my opinion... these gaffes are not noted strictly with the benefit of hindsight. They were significant blunders that had most slapping their foreheads in the moment and as they unfolded before knowing the result of the play.
It's the same with Atlanta. Quinn knew that his defense was spent. We know this because there is literally video of him saying they are "gassed" on the sideline. So he stayed aggressive and tried to win the game by putting the score out of reach. It didn't work but there is a clear logic in the thinking.
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