America's Gun Violence

HughFreakingDillon · February 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

But you can't challenge such a story without inherently calling the person who spewed it a liar.

Ryme never outright called him a liar.

sure you can. ask for more details.

Then what do you call a statement like this?

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

RYME · February 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Thirty Bills Unpaid · February 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

But you can't challenge such a story without inherently calling the person who spewed it a liar.

Ryme never outright called him a liar.

sure you can. ask for more details.

Then what do you call a statement like this?

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

I call it a guy calling out bullshit.

I mean... we can encourage people to play that game (What time of day was it? Was the cop right in the middle of an intense investigation? Did you have your hands inside your coat pockets? Were you walking towards him in a brisk manner?)... but some comments don't command such respect.

Edit: the context of the comment was significant here as well.

oftenreading · February 2018

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

HughFreakingDillon · February 2018

well I don't know CM's posting history, so.........

Thirty Bills Unpaid · February 2018

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

You mean soften the blow?

It's the same thing.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · February 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

well I don't know CM's posting history, so.........

If you read the post he offered the story in... you'll have a pretty good idea where he traditionally has stood with regards to his views on police work.

* Good luck with securing tickets people. Cheers.

oftenreading · February 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

You mean soften the blow?

It's the same thing.

It's absolutely not the same thing.

Bentleyspop · February 2018

For all the police haters on here.......those of you that hate ALL police and believe that ALL police are out to get you and that ALL police are corrupt....here's some questions for you.......

When you're driving down the road and get hit by another car and they take off (a hit and run) who you gonna call?
Someone breaks into you house and steals all your precious stuff.....who you gonna call?
When someone mugs and hurts your loved one...who you gonna call?
Your car gets stolen. ....who you gonna call?

oftenreading · February 2018

Bentleyspop said:

For all the police haters on here.......those of you that hate ALL police and believe that ALL police are out to get you and that ALL police are corrupt....here's some questions for you.......

When you're driving down the road and get hit by another car and they take off (a hit and run) who you gonna call?
Someone breaks into you house and steals all your precious stuff.....who you gonna call?
When someone mugs and hurts your loved one...who you gonna call?
Your car gets stolen. ....who you gonna call?

Who are you putting in that category of "police haters" who "hate all police"?

RYME · February 2018

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

Has Obama ever run a lawnmower?
I don't think Trump has either. Just guessing.
I ment to say I don't believe CM's story.
If it is true, then he's not telling the whole story as to why the policeman pulled the gun on him. It certainly wasn't for thanking him for his service.

oftenreading · February 2018

RYME said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

Has Obama ever run a lawnmower?
I don't think Trump has either. Just guessing.
I ment to say I don't believe CM's story.
If it is true, then he's not telling the whole story as to why the policeman pulled the gun on him. It certainly wasn't for thanking him for his service.

"Just guessing"? You were pretty definitive before.

RYME · February 2018

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

Has Obama ever run a lawnmower?
I don't think Trump has either. Just guessing.
I ment to say I don't believe CM's story.
If it is true, then he's not telling the whole story as to why the policeman pulled the gun on him. It certainly wasn't for thanking him for his service.

"Just guessing"? You were pretty definitive before.

Good grief No, I don't believe Obama or Trump have ever operated a lawn mower, and no I don't believe CM's story.

CM189191 · February 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

wow, a lot of police worship around here.

this is the reason we live in a police state. this is how structural racism continues to thrive. this i why we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

police and the military are an untouchable class. do not question their sacrifice. obey.

Lol

We're so dumb.

don't take my word for it:

Sessions calls sheriffs a 'critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement'

CM189191 · February 2018

RYME said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RYME said:

CM189191 said:

Can we please stop putting police up on a pedestal already?
1) they knew what they signed up for. Don't want to put your life in the line everyday? Then get another job.
2) it's not even top ten most dangerous professions
3) they're more likely to kill someone else than be killed

I tried to thank an officer for his service, monitoring our neighborhood, parking lot and building. Coming home from work and I'm wearing a suit and tie. He returned the compliment by drawing his weapon because he perceived me as some sort of threat.

Very few cops are heros. Most I've had the pleasure of knowing, are assholes. Some, I assume are good people.

I don't believe for one second that you thanked a police officer. And then you fabricate that he drew his wepon on you for thanking him for his service, come on man, don't insult us all.

you are calling him a liar based on absolutely nothing.

So people must believe everything that is typed on these threads as the truth- no matter how ridiculous those words sound?

If I'm honest... I don't believe the story either. For one... it's far fetched- very unbelievable. Secondly... CM's posting history on the subject of police and police authority is extreme. He hardly sounds like the type of person to go out of his way to 'thank' an officer for anything.

Guessing that he is fabricating his story about thanking a police officer, and then the police officer draws his gun on him is an educated guess based on his comments.
Referring to CM again,
Racism? Read the story I posted two or three times. Tell me what's racist about that? I'll post it again for CM
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/01/28/detroit-police-officer-glenn-doss-dies/1073154001/

Guess all you want, it's still a guess, not an "educated guess" (kind of like how your weird assertion that Obama has never used a lawnmower is not an educated guess). And outright saying that someone fabricated a story is the same as saying s/he is lying. Perhaps you meant to say something like you found it unlikely? Improbable? Dubious?

Has Obama ever run a lawnmower?
I don't think Trump has either. Just guessing.
I ment to say I don't believe CM's story.
If it is true, then he's not telling the whole story as to why the policeman pulled the gun on him. It certainly wasn't for thanking him for his service.

"Just guessing"? You were pretty definitive before.

Good grief No, I don't believe Obama ever operated a lawn mower, and I don't believe CM.

I've been called a lot of things, a liar is not one of them

Thirty Bills Unpaid · February 2018

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

wow, a lot of police worship around here.

this is the reason we live in a police state. this is how structural racism continues to thrive. this i why we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

police and the military are an untouchable class. do not question their sacrifice. obey.

Lol

We're so dumb.

don't take my word for it:

Sessions calls sheriffs a 'critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement'

What am I reading? This (from your article)?

“As most law students learn in the first week of their first year, Anglo-American law – also known as the common law – is a shared legal heritage between England and America. The sheriff is unique to that shared legal heritage. Before reporters sloppily imply nefarious meaning behind the term, we would suggest that they read any number of the Supreme Court opinions that use the term. Or they could simply put ‘Anglo-American law’ into Google.”

stuckinline · February 2018

http://nbc4i.com/2018/02/12/man-charged-with-providing-gun-to-suspect-accused-of-killing-westerville-officers/

HughFreakingDillon · February 2018

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

wow, a lot of police worship around here.

this is the reason we live in a police state. this is how structural racism continues to thrive. this i why we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

police and the military are an untouchable class. do not question their sacrifice. obey.

Lol

We're so dumb.

don't take my word for it:

Sessions calls sheriffs a 'critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement'

I must be missing something here. are some equating the prefix "anglo" with "white" or something? it simply means England. lol

Thirty Bills Unpaid · February 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

CM189191 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

CM189191 said:

wow, a lot of police worship around here.

this is the reason we live in a police state. this is how structural racism continues to thrive. this i why we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

police and the military are an untouchable class. do not question their sacrifice. obey.

Lol

We're so dumb.

don't take my word for it:

Sessions calls sheriffs a 'critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement'

I must be missing something here. are some equating the prefix "anglo" with "white" or something? it simply means England. lol

Yah I sat there scratching my noggin too?

Bentleyspop · February 2018

oftenreading said:

Bentleyspop said:

For all the police haters on here.......those of you that hate ALL police and believe that ALL police are out to get you and that ALL police are corrupt....here's some questions for you.......

When you're driving down the road and get hit by another car and they take off (a hit and run) who you gonna call?
Someone breaks into you house and steals all your precious stuff.....who you gonna call?
When someone mugs and hurts your loved one...who you gonna call?
Your car gets stolen. ....who you gonna call?

Who are you putting in that category of "police haters" who "hate all police"?

They know who they are

Still want to know who they'll call

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