America's Gun Violence

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Modern bird hunting is just ridiculous from top to bottom.

How so bud? My dad and I hunt together with a Brittany spaniel.  Two birds a day per person. I have a 20 gauge pump and my dad uses a side by side 12 gauge. 

Ridiculous to those who don't know Jack Shit about what they're talking about.   
We like Labradors. . Labradors flush, & Brittanys point.  Both are amazing to watch.
Some here, don't know what we're talking about when they say "Modern bird hunting is ridiculous."
Maby a wood fire to keep warm is outdated to.

Pretty darn arrogant to say that those who disagree with you don’t know jack shit. 

rgambs said:

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I "don't know jack shit" RYME.

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up, shooting birds on the wing isn't very safe. 
Eating wild game birds sounds like fun, until you do it.  Stringy, gamey, and biting into birdshot is not the minor inconvenience bird hunters want to pretend it is.
Buying farmed pheasants, starving them without food and water for a few days, and then spinning them around to disorient them and keep them close has become the norm in most of the country where pheasant and grouse aren't abundant enough.
Generally, hunting dogs aren't acceptable pets and pets aren't good hunting dogs.  That's all fine except that all the bird and rabbit dogs I know of live in kennels and only get attention on the hunt.
Turkey hunting is ok by me, it takes serious patience and skill.

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Modern bird hunting is just ridiculous from top to bottom.

How so bud? My dad and I hunt together with a Brittany spaniel.  Two birds a day per person. I have a 20 gauge pump and my dad uses a side by side 12 gauge. 

Ridiculous to those who don't know Jack Shit about what they're talking about.   
We like Labradors. . Labradors flush, & Brittanys point.  Both are amazing to watch.
Some here, don't know what we're talking about when they say "Modern bird hunting is ridiculous."
Maby a wood fire to keep warm is outdated to.

Pretty darn arrogant to say that those who disagree with you don’t know jack shit. 

So tell me about your bird hunting experiences. What gun do you use? Bird dog or just go out with fellow humans and drive/flush? Favorite recipe?  Grouse? Pheasant? Quail?

I’m not claiming to know anything about bird hunting, am I?  But I think anyone paying attention on here knows that rgambs knows a thing or two about living in the country, so probably best not to assume he knows jack shit. 

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Modern bird hunting is just ridiculous from top to bottom.

How so bud? My dad and I hunt together with a Brittany spaniel.  Two birds a day per person. I have a 20 gauge pump and my dad uses a side by side 12 gauge. 

Ridiculous to those who don't know Jack Shit about what they're talking about.   
We like Labradors. . Labradors flush, & Brittanys point.  Both are amazing to watch.
Some here, don't know what we're talking about when they say "Modern bird hunting is ridiculous."
Maby a wood fire to keep warm is outdated to.

Pretty darn arrogant to say that those who disagree with you don’t know jack shit. 

So tell me about your bird hunting experiences. What gun do you use? Bird dog or just go out with fellow humans and drive/flush? Favorite recipe?  Grouse? Pheasant? Quail?

I’m not claiming to know anything about bird hunting, am I?  But I think anyone paying attention on here knows that rgambs knows a thing or two about living in the country, so probably best not to assume he knows jack shit. 

Ok so you admit not knowing anything about bird hunting. Got ya. It was just a very odd statement. 

To me, yours is an odd statement. I’m commenting on ryme’s comment to rgambs. Not sure why my own knowledge on bird hunting affects that. 
 

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I "don't know jack shit" RYME.

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up, shooting birds on the wing isn't very safe. 
Eating wild game birds sounds like fun, until you do it.  Stringy, gamey, and biting into birdshot is not the minor inconvenience bird hunters want to pretend it is.
Buying farmed pheasants, starving them without food and water for a few days, and then spinning them around to disorient them and keep them close has become the norm in most of the country where pheasant and grouse aren't abundant enough.
Generally, hunting dogs aren't acceptable pets and pets aren't good hunting dogs.  That's all fine except that all the bird and rabbit dogs I know of live in kennels and only get attention on the hunt.
Turkey hunting is ok by me, it takes serious patience and skill.

I have no clue how shooting ducks is fucked up. To me that is some of the hardest bird hunting as shots can be straight at you or waaay up high. Your explanation of pheasant hunting is  to me hunting “preserves” when you pay to hunt. This is not the case when hunting in a wildlife management area. 

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up and shooting them on the wing is dangerous is what I thought I said.
Not just paid hunts, people buy the birds from the "preserves" and hunt them on their own land.  Very common in the Great Lakes region at least.
People still hunt with ethical practices, I'm not saying they don't, but it's truly a sport hunt more than a sustenance hunt.  Most people only eat the breast anyways!

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

oftenreading said:

RYME said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Modern bird hunting is just ridiculous from top to bottom.

How so bud? My dad and I hunt together with a Brittany spaniel.  Two birds a day per person. I have a 20 gauge pump and my dad uses a side by side 12 gauge. 

Ridiculous to those who don't know Jack Shit about what they're talking about.   
We like Labradors. . Labradors flush, & Brittanys point.  Both are amazing to watch.
Some here, don't know what we're talking about when they say "Modern bird hunting is ridiculous."
Maby a wood fire to keep warm is outdated to.

Pretty darn arrogant to say that those who disagree with you don’t know jack shit. 

So tell me about your bird hunting experiences. What gun do you use? Bird dog or just go out with fellow humans and drive/flush? Favorite recipe?  Grouse? Pheasant? Quail?

I’m not claiming to know anything about bird hunting, am I?  But I think anyone paying attention on here knows that rgambs knows a thing or two about living in the country, so probably best not to assume he knows jack shit. 

Ok so you admit not knowing anything about bird hunting. Got ya. It was just a very odd statement. 

To me, yours is an odd statement. I’m commenting on ryme’s comment to rgambs. Not sure why my own knowledge on bird hunting affects that. 
 

which was about bird hunting which you admittedly know nothing about.  am I missing something?

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I "don't know jack shit" RYME.

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up, shooting birds on the wing isn't very safe. 
Eating wild game birds sounds like fun, until you do it.  Stringy, gamey, and biting into birdshot is not the minor inconvenience bird hunters want to pretend it is.
Buying farmed pheasants, starving them without food and water for a few days, and then spinning them around to disorient them and keep them close has become the norm in most of the country where pheasant and grouse aren't abundant enough.
Generally, hunting dogs aren't acceptable pets and pets aren't good hunting dogs.  That's all fine except that all the bird and rabbit dogs I know of live in kennels and only get attention on the hunt.
Turkey hunting is ok by me, it takes serious patience and skill.

I have no clue how shooting ducks is fucked up. To me that is some of the hardest bird hunting as shots can be straight at you or waaay up high. Your explanation of pheasant hunting is  to me hunting “preserves” when you pay to hunt. This is not the case when hunting in a wildlife management area. 

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up and shooting them on the wing is dangerous is what I thought I said.
Not just paid hunts, people buy the birds from the "preserves" and hunt them on their own land.  Very common in the Great Lakes region at least.
People still hunt with ethical practices, I'm not saying they don't, but it's truly a sport hunt more than a sustenance hunt.  Most people only eat the breast anyways!

I don't own land so I can't comment on that.  How is shooting them on the wing dangerous and how is shooting ducks fucked up?

I'm not sure where you're coming from here...
We are in a thread which has been derailed by talk of bird hunting accidents (one a first hand account by a poster here) and it's just common knowledge that taking birds on the wing is why bird hunting is risky for people and their dogs.  I'm not saying it's certain death or anything, but swinging your firearm up suddenly to make a quick shot at a low flying bird is obviously a maneuver with a high margin of error.  It was one of the first things I learned about hunting and I'm surprised, frankly, that you would contest something so fundamental.
Speaking of fundamental hunting knowledge... Sitting ducks?  You can't possibly be ignorant to the millennia old ethical debate around shooting ducks on the water, aside from the safety concerns, yet people still do it all the time where it's legal.

Shit bud, i’d Never shoot a duck on water, only in the air.  Any hunters I have ever come across did the same.  
And on the wing has a different meaning to me. 

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I "don't know jack shit" RYME.

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up, shooting birds on the wing isn't very safe. 
Eating wild game birds sounds like fun, until you do it.  Stringy, gamey, and biting into birdshot is not the minor inconvenience bird hunters want to pretend it is.
Buying farmed pheasants, starving them without food and water for a few days, and then spinning them around to disorient them and keep them close has become the norm in most of the country where pheasant and grouse aren't abundant enough.
Generally, hunting dogs aren't acceptable pets and pets aren't good hunting dogs.  That's all fine except that all the bird and rabbit dogs I know of live in kennels and only get attention on the hunt.
Turkey hunting is ok by me, it takes serious patience and skill.

I have no clue how shooting ducks is fucked up. To me that is some of the hardest bird hunting as shots can be straight at you or waaay up high. Your explanation of pheasant hunting is  to me hunting “preserves” when you pay to hunt. This is not the case when hunting in a wildlife management area. 

Shooting sitting ducks is fucked up and shooting them on the wing is dangerous is what I thought I said.
Not just paid hunts, people buy the birds from the "preserves" and hunt them on their own land.  Very common in the Great Lakes region at least.
People still hunt with ethical practices, I'm not saying they don't, but it's truly a sport hunt more than a sustenance hunt.  Most people only eat the breast anyways!

I don't own land so I can't comment on that.  How is shooting them on the wing dangerous and how is shooting ducks fucked up?

I'm not sure where you're coming from here...
We are in a thread which has been derailed by talk of bird hunting accidents (one a first hand account by a poster here) and it's just common knowledge that taking birds on the wing is why bird hunting is risky for people and their dogs.  I'm not saying it's certain death or anything, but swinging your firearm up suddenly to make a quick shot at a low flying bird is obviously a maneuver with a high margin of error.  It was one of the first things I learned about hunting and I'm surprised, frankly, that you would contest something so fundamental.
Speaking of fundamental hunting knowledge... Sitting ducks?  You can't possibly be ignorant to the millennia old ethical debate around shooting ducks on the water, aside from the safety concerns, yet people still do it all the time where it's legal.

Shit bud, i’d Never shoot a duck on water, only in the air.  Any hunters I have ever come across did the same.  
And on the wing has a different meaning to me. 

Ok, it's just a language difference, that makes sense.
I am in a different region/culture than you, even though it's not so far.  There's probably more shitty unethical hunters around here, all these rednecks.

Open invitation to you and thirty: when you guys are in New Jersey we can shoot ar’s, handguns, hunt with Brittany s then drink massive amounts of ipa’s while listening to live pj. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

dudeman said:

I always assumed it was never funny when anyone got shot.

Agreed.
It says a good bit about the character of someone who thinks it's funny when someone gets shot in the face.  

i just did a search for 'cheney hunting'. you should too. many people, mostly left leaning on this forum, thought it was fucking hilarious and continued to use it as a talking point about who they thought should go hunting with him next, among other things.