America's Gun Violence
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It's not that they're against them per say, it's that those are just buzz words so they get blown off as leftist over reaction. At least that is the impression I've gotten on here. Or, they are attached to other regulatory changes that don't seem appropriate in the eyes of supporters. It's comical to see the talk of support for changes, but then when they are suggested I have yet to see an agreement. It usually leads to a conversation about the fear and speculation of other possible restrictions so they can't give an inch because they're afraid it will become a mile.Halifax2TheMax said:How would banning armor piercing and tracer rounds be an infringement of your right to bear arms? Why does the “responsible” gun owner require armor piercing and tracer rounds?
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I think Mace is the only one I've seen give a reasonable compromise, but then that gets shit on by the extreme anti gun crowd. So around and around we go.
I don't care if someone wants to own a few hunting rifles. That I can understand. Killing your own food is no more unreasonable than growing your own garden. And this comes from someone who no longer eats meat, but grew up on a farm and hunted so I get it. You use the animal for food.
Handguns, semi/full auto rifles and high capacity mags are all just meant for killing humans. They're used to intimidate, threaten and get a thrill from using. We don't need them.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
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You never saw the Evil Dead movies?RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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WhataboutismHalifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.0 -
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.0 -
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I completely agree with you. As I do on almost all issues, it’s your methods of conveying your stances/beliefs that is annoying and counter productive. You are the embodiment of the “liberals are hypocrites” stereotype.Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.0 -
How am I “liberals are hypocrites?” Do I change my position on issues?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No but your tactics of pushing your personal agenda are identical to the likes of the people you hate so much. If Donald Trump were a liberal, his tweets would sound a lot like your posts.Halifax2TheMax said:How am I “liberals are hypocrites?” Do I change my position on issues?
You have people in this thread that are gun owners and they are advocating for real change and offering to meet us half way, which is how real change is fostered, but you choose to name call and tease instead of taking their opinions seriously.0 -
I question the sincerity of gun owners when they at first say they ‘re for something before listing the 8 reasons it won’t work, be implemented or change anything. I’ve asked a legitimate question regarding tracer and armor piercing rounds and received 1 reply. Others have posted legitimate solutions and pointed to places where they work. Others have posted facts ad naseum. Facts don’t change and neither do the personal attacks or claims of “you want to ban all guns and hunting,” when I’ve never read that claim on here. I openly stated my position on those two points and now I’m a poster child for both and was called a snowflake. Funny, I know.RiotZact said:
No but your tactics of pushing your personal agenda are identical to the likes of the people you hate so much. If Donald Trump were a liberal, his tweets would sound a lot like your posts.Halifax2TheMax said:How am I “liberals are hypocrites?” Do I change my position on issues?
You have people in this thread that are gun owners and they are advocating for real change and offering to meet us half way, which is how real change is fostered, but you choose to name call and tease instead of taking their opinions seriously.
I’ll communicate in my style. Feel free to skip over my posts. This is still ‘merica last time I checked although recent events have me doubting that.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
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I asked how banning them would infringe upon your right to bear arms or why “responsible “ gun owners need it or require it.dudeman said:
Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
No, do you?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I did't scroll back to see what the question was, but armor piercing and tracer rounds should at very minimum be heavily regulated if not altogether banned.
I'm not sure if I'm aware or anyone, certainly not the general gun population, who was that ammo readily available.0 -
I linked to an article that pointed out the Vegas shooter had purchased them and they had arrested the seller of the ammo.mace1229 said:I did't scroll back to see what the question was, but armor piercing and tracer rounds should at very minimum be heavily regulated if not altogether banned.
I'm not sure if I'm aware or anyone, certainly not the general gun population, who was that ammo readily available.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Banning those things wouldn't have any impact on me. I have no practical need for either. I wouldn't consider them being banned as an infringement on my rights.Halifax2TheMax said:
I asked how banning them would infringe upon your right to bear arms or why “responsible “ gun owners need it or require it.dudeman said:
Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
No, do you?
But, I feel it is worth considering that even though these things are legal and available, they are seldom used in violent crimes. This begs the question: Why focus on something that has little to no impact on violent crime statistics?
If the goal is to reduce gun deaths, AP and tracer rounds are right at the bottom of the list of concern for me.
Instead, suicide prevention, gang task forces and the availability of handguns to criminals should be top priorities.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
I 2nd that. I have no interest in owning or using AP tracer rounds.dudeman said:
Banning those things wouldn't have any impact on me. I have no practical need for either. I wouldn't consider them being banned as an infringement on my rights.Halifax2TheMax said:
I asked how banning them would infringe upon your right to bear arms or why “responsible “ gun owners need it or require it.dudeman said:
Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
No, do you?
But, I feel it is worth considering that even though these things are legal and available, they are seldom used in violent crimes. This begs the question: Why focus on something that has little to no impact on violent crime statistics?
If the goal is to reduce gun deaths, AP and tracer rounds are right at the bottom of the list of concern for me.
Instead, suicide prevention, gang task forces and the availability of handguns to criminals should be top priorities.
But I always go back to the (for lack of a better word) troubled individuals who are doing the shooting.
If I owned a bazooka, I'm still no threat to anyone. Not going to be sitting on top of my garage shooting cars with it.
It's not the device, it's who is using the device.
I agree that something needs to be done about gun violence. I'd love to meet the anti gun crowd halfway.
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What would that look like? Meeting the anti-gun crowd half way?RYME said:
I 2nd that. I have no interest in owning or using AP tracer rounds.dudeman said:
Banning those things wouldn't have any impact on me. I have no practical need for either. I wouldn't consider them being banned as an infringement on my rights.Halifax2TheMax said:
I asked how banning them would infringe upon your right to bear arms or why “responsible “ gun owners need it or require it.dudeman said:
Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
No, do you?
But, I feel it is worth considering that even though these things are legal and available, they are seldom used in violent crimes. This begs the question: Why focus on something that has little to no impact on violent crime statistics?
If the goal is to reduce gun deaths, AP and tracer rounds are right at the bottom of the list of concern for me.
Instead, suicide prevention, gang task forces and the availability of handguns to criminals should be top priorities.
But I always go back to the (for lack of a better word) troubled individuals who are doing the shooting.
If I owned a bazooka, I'm still no threat to anyone. Not going to be sitting on top of my garage shooting cars with it.
It's not the device, it's who is using the device.
I agree that something needs to be done about gun violence. I'd love to meet the anti gun crowd halfway.
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So we’re back to “guns don’t kill people, people kill people..... including all those troubled toddlers, school aged kids and teens.RYME said:
I 2nd that. I have no interest in owning or using AP tracer rounds.dudeman said:
Banning those things wouldn't have any impact on me. I have no practical need for either. I wouldn't consider them being banned as an infringement on my rights.Halifax2TheMax said:
I asked how banning them would infringe upon your right to bear arms or why “responsible “ gun owners need it or require it.dudeman said:
Do you have any relevant statistics concerning the use of armor piercing or tracer ammo in the commission of violent crimes?Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to answer the questions I posed about armor piercing and tracer rounds?RiotZact said:
Last time I checked PJPOWER isn’t the one who has silly nicknames and catchphrases for every single little thing and repeats them 300 times each every single day on AMT.Halifax2TheMax said:
See Power. PJ.RYME said:
Why can't you have a conversation with out being flip arrogant and cocky?Halifax2TheMax said:Has Team Trump Treason ever fired a boom stick? Does Team Trump Treason carry an official membership card of the NRA? T Cubed ever hunt? How’s about serve in the military and have a rudimentary understanding of boom sticks? Anyone? But he’s your hero, huh? “Responsible” gun owners strike again.
There are valid points to be made on both sides of the gun debate But it's impossible to have a conversation with "Has Team Trump ever fired a boom stick?"He's your hero, huh? Responsible gun owners strike again."
boom stick, I had to look it up on urban dictionary, 1 Sawed off shot gun, 2 shot guns, 3 male anatomy tool.lol Good times.
No, do you?
But, I feel it is worth considering that even though these things are legal and available, they are seldom used in violent crimes. This begs the question: Why focus on something that has little to no impact on violent crime statistics?
If the goal is to reduce gun deaths, AP and tracer rounds are right at the bottom of the list of concern for me.
Instead, suicide prevention, gang task forces and the availability of handguns to criminals should be top priorities.
But I always go back to the (for lack of a better word) troubled individuals who are doing the shooting.
If I owned a bazooka, I'm still no threat to anyone. Not going to be sitting on top of my garage shooting cars with it.
It's not the device, it's who is using the device.
I agree that something needs to be done about gun violence. I'd love to meet the anti gun crowd halfway.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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