America's Gun Violence
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I appreciate the response. Work calls. TBC.mace1229 said:
I appreciate the apology, thank you.
To respond to a few of your points,
In truth I had a different perception of what a school shooting was 2 days ago. I think most people probably picture a student (or anyone) with a gun shooting directly at other students with the intention to harm or kill multiple students in a k-12 school when they hear "school shooting." That is what I think of anyway. If someone asked for my definition of a school shooting 2 days ago I would not have included suicides or someone outside the school shooting out a window, or the parking lot of a college. Not that they should not be included, it just hadn't occurred to me to include them. I know those things happen, I just never reflected on it. So when I heard that data I wasn't trying to minimize the events. When I heard it was the 11th school shooting of 2018 I had 2 thoughts.
1- Is that number accurate?
2- If so, why were the other 10 not major news. That would be really disturbing to me
I wanted clarification on the topic. Since I had almost no information myself, I had no link to post, I was just asking for information to help me understand why 10 other shootings did not make the news.
So now it isn't surprising or disturbing to me that a school suicide did not make national headlines. I still think it is misleading to claim 11 school shootings. But it doesn't matter, because the 8 or 9 I do agree on is still a big number and a big problem. Calling it 8 shootings instead of 11 doesn't lessen the problem, I was just calling out the media for being misleading. Maybe you and others think it doesn't matter, and in terms of gun violence you're right it really doesn't. But I was just calling a spade when I saw it, not trying to minimize anything.
I know I have mentioned my dad as a cop in the police abuse thread. I can't remember if I did not not here. But if I did it was probably to explain my roots for gun control, how I was raised to fear and respect guns has had an impact on my views and why I believe people who can't respect guns shouldn't own them.
I have never said there is nothing we can do. I am for changes. I am for registration and magazine limits among other changes. There are things we can do. I don't fear the government taking my guns away, I know there are measures we can take that don't leap that far.
I was surprised at your comment about my anticipated response to your article because how many dozens of links have you posted without a comment from me? I think quite a lot. I only respond if I have a question or an issue or can provide some feedback. Most the the time I have nothing to say because I don't know how to respond to gun tragedies. All of those links you've posted where I remain quite is because I agree those are tragedies but I don't know how to prevent/reduce them other than what has already been suggested 100 times on here. So there isn't a way for me to further that discussion. I really can;t recall attacking articles you've posted, that's why it struck me as odd. Maybe the few I have responded to I had real questions that were taken as attacks. Maybe I just had too many margaritas and don't remember, who knows.
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I've already laid them out several times in exceptional detail. I'm not doing it again- you're not prepared to listen anyways (you love shootin' shit too much).PJPOWER said:
Oh, there’s the cheerleader, I was wondering what happened to you! Have any solutions today or just trolling?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Given the argument is so blatantly one sided... it's more 'oblong and oblong we go'.PJPOWER said:
Round and round we go. Off to the next topic!dignin said:I think someone has confused the word "tenable" with "perfect".
If we can't take perfect actions to correct a problem we shouldn't do anything at all.
Edit: I almost forgot the token THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
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Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon! 0 -
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Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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Invasive species bud! This is what an ar is built for. Those guys get nasty as hell.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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Nah, they’re hamsters. I can see the wheel over on the right. I agree, they're not native, and can be invasive. You can get “ham” from them, but it’s a stretch to call it bacon.PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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True, we usually just turn them into sausage if we find a one that’s a decent size. The sausage is lean, but tastes like regular ol’ pork from the store.oftenreading said:
Nah, they’re hamsters. I can see the wheel over on the right. I agree, there not native, and can be invasive. You can get “ham” from them, but it’s a stretch to call it bacon.PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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What is the approx weight of the biggest wild boar you have seen?PJPOWER said:
True, we usually just turn them into sausage if we find a one that’s a decent size. The sausage is lean, but tastes like regular ol’ pork from the store.oftenreading said:
Nah, they’re hamsters. I can see the wheel over on the right. I agree, there not native, and can be invasive. You can get “ham” from them, but it’s a stretch to call it bacon.PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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Probably about 300lbs, looked like a boulder rolling through the field, lol. Some people have run across ones a lot larger though. I have seen packs of about 50 roaming through the country and occasionally they have been known to kill livestock...and people. Do to these and the diamondback rattlesnakes, i’m pretty cautious when roaming the countryside:)mcgruff10 said:
What is the approx weight of the biggest wild boar you have seen?PJPOWER said:
True, we usually just turn them into sausage if we find a one that’s a decent size. The sausage is lean, but tastes like regular ol’ pork from the store.oftenreading said:
Nah, they’re hamsters. I can see the wheel over on the right. I agree, there not native, and can be invasive. You can get “ham” from them, but it’s a stretch to call it bacon.PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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god damn that is big. Stay safe bud.PJPOWER said:
Probably about 300lbs, looked like a boulder rolling through the field, lol. Some people have run across ones a lot larger though. I have seen packs of about 50 roaming through the country and occasionally they have been known to kill livestock...and people. Do to these and the diamondback rattlesnakes, i’m pretty cautious when roaming the countryside:)mcgruff10 said:
What is the approx weight of the biggest wild boar you have seen?PJPOWER said:
True, we usually just turn them into sausage if we find a one that’s a decent size. The sausage is lean, but tastes like regular ol’ pork from the store.oftenreading said:
Nah, they’re hamsters. I can see the wheel over on the right. I agree, there not native, and can be invasive. You can get “ham” from them, but it’s a stretch to call it bacon.PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
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PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
30 Bills
I figured as much.
I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.
I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
The cage is actually a hog trap. My father in law traps them and there is a local guy that buys them and sells them. Evidently these things are a delicacy in some places...The round thing is a hay feeder for cattle (to keep it from scattering too bad) and is turned up on its side...This particularly bunch has been messing up the cattle hay. This is pretty near where we live.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
30 Bills
I figured as much.
I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.
I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!
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Feral pigs is a more accurate name for them, but practically nobody who lives inside their range calls them that, anything but feral lolMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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PJPOWER said:
The cage is actually a hog trap. My father in law traps them and there is a local guy that buys them and sells them. Evidently these things are a delicacy in some places...The round thing is a hay feeder for cattle (to keep it from scattering too bad) and is turned up on its side...This particularly bunch has been messing up the cattle hay. This is pretty near where we live.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:PJPOWER said:
This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about. Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed. They are crazy aggressive.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hey what's the story here?PJPOWER said:Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera. Time to restock the bacon!
Seriously. Give me some details.
30 Bills
I figured as much.
I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.
I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!
Thanks for the info! Wild pigs are not something I ever encounter at anytime where I live. Supposedly they're out there (escaped from barns?)... but they are not a nuisance as far as I know. None of my buddies who hunt regularly ever report sighting them.
I understand they can be fierce and have the potential to really hurt someone. I can see why an assault rifle might be useful against them. With that said, I'm still against the ownership of one despite this (trade offs).
* For the record... whether they were strong or not... I have offered very detailed arguments for restricting ownership before. I've got 1000s of posts and I don't care to dig them up or reinvent them. I've come to terms with the fact that the idea of restrictions is never going to happen in the US. This fact doesn't make owners shitty people. If you and I sat down and had beer together... I'm pretty sure we'd find things to laugh at and music we'd both simultaneously say, "What a great f**king tune!" My beliefs are mine. I like to express them. I like to defend them.
** I'm speaking from British Columbia if you don't remember. Wildlife is truly abundant here: coming back cross country skiing a few weeks back I saw a massive moose (it looked like it was trying to take down a tree). I've seen moose before, but this one was a barrel chested animal. It was huge! About 50 yards from it lurked a coyote watching it in action. A really neat scene.
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Can't wait to get me gun out and kill some things! woo!
I thirst for death and blood!
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