Why did they boo Eddie?

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Well that's true. I just meant their performances. I absolutely do not think that Bu$hleaguer is an exception to that, and I don't see why anyone would think so. It's not spoken word btw, not that that should make a difference anyhow.

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Well that's true. I just meant their performances. I absolutely do not think that Bu$hleaguer is an exception to that, and I don't see why anyone would think so. It's not spoken word btw, not that that should make a difference anyhow.

well Ed thinks so, that it is the audience's right to boo him when he sang Bushleaguer. he stated so right after the performance in Uniondale. he also apologized to the audience after they played it at the showbox after going off on his "fuck war" mid-song rant. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Well that's true. I just meant their performances. I absolutely do not think that Bu$hleaguer is an exception to that, and I don't see why anyone would think so. It's not spoken word btw, not that that should make a difference anyhow.

well Ed thinks so, that it is the audience's right to boo him when he sang Bushleaguer. he stated so right after the performance in Uniondale. he also apologized to the audience after they played it at the showbox after going off on his "fuck war" mid-song rant. 

I don't really care what Ed thinks about it. I also think he never should have apologized. I hate it when he apologizes after making political statements. He did that last year too. It's wimpy IMO.

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Exactly this. I love this band because they are passionate about their beliefs...even if they are often opposite to my beliefs. I applaud and support their right to say anything from the stage as I am sure they are ok with my right to boo (without belligerence) when I see fit. Fan engagement is what matters...it is what makes their shows great...and we should all be able to handle this back and forth respectfully. For the record I loved Bush and Bushleaguer and I hope it gets played again.

Exactly. I think Ed is intelligent enough to recognize that people are there for the music primarily, so if he wants to go off on a political rant, if some of the crowd happens to not agree with what he has to say (and out of 15,000 people, that's a guarantee), then I would imagine he'd welcome the back and forth. Which he seemed to, especially when the crowd started chanting "USA". 

Jeff also said he loved it.

Jeff loved being booed? Or did I miss something here?

Personally, I just think booing is classless and rude. The usual method of expressing disagreement at a concert is not to clap or cheer. If you really feel strongly you can walk out. 

Now, I’m not saying it isn't within someone rights to boo, just that I disagree with it. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Exactly this. I love this band because they are passionate about their beliefs...even if they are often opposite to my beliefs. I applaud and support their right to say anything from the stage as I am sure they are ok with my right to boo (without belligerence) when I see fit. Fan engagement is what matters...it is what makes their shows great...and we should all be able to handle this back and forth respectfully. For the record I loved Bush and Bushleaguer and I hope it gets played again.

Exactly. I think Ed is intelligent enough to recognize that people are there for the music primarily, so if he wants to go off on a political rant, if some of the crowd happens to not agree with what he has to say (and out of 15,000 people, that's a guarantee), then I would imagine he'd welcome the back and forth. Which he seemed to, especially when the crowd started chanting "USA". 

Jeff also said he loved it.

Also with respect to rants in general...my thoughts are this...if they are willing to give me 3 hours per show then they can say whatever the hell they want.

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Exactly this. I love this band because they are passionate about their beliefs...even if they are often opposite to my beliefs. I applaud and support their right to say anything from the stage as I am sure they are ok with my right to boo (without belligerence) when I see fit. Fan engagement is what matters...it is what makes their shows great...and we should all be able to handle this back and forth respectfully. For the record I loved Bush and Bushleaguer and I hope it gets played again.

Exactly. I think Ed is intelligent enough to recognize that people are there for the music primarily, so if he wants to go off on a political rant, if some of the crowd happens to not agree with what he has to say (and out of 15,000 people, that's a guarantee), then I would imagine he'd welcome the back and forth. Which he seemed to, especially when the crowd started chanting "USA". 

Jeff also said he loved it.

Jeff loved being booed? Or did I miss something here?

Personally, I just think booing is classless and rude. The usual method of expressing disagreement at a concert is not to clap or cheer. If you really feel strongly you can walk out. 

Now, I’m not saying it isn't within someone rights to boo, just that I disagree with it. 

not that he loved being booed, he loved the back and forth between them and the crowd, of them making a political statement and the crowd doing the same. I think it was in PJ20 movie where he stated that. 

booing a performance is rude, yes (like when people boo nickelback, for instance). 

booing a political message is not rude. it is the direct opposite of clapping/cheering. if the door is open to one, it has to be open for the other. 

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have an issue with someone booing the performance. 

I do not have an issue with someone booing something the artist says in between the songs, especially if it's political in nature. I can't imagine the band would disagree with that. I gather they prefer people be engaged, no matter positive or negative, as long as they are engaged at all. 

Exactly this. I love this band because they are passionate about their beliefs...even if they are often opposite to my beliefs. I applaud and support their right to say anything from the stage as I am sure they are ok with my right to boo (without belligerence) when I see fit. Fan engagement is what matters...it is what makes their shows great...and we should all be able to handle this back and forth respectfully. For the record I loved Bush and Bushleaguer and I hope it gets played again.

Exactly. I think Ed is intelligent enough to recognize that people are there for the music primarily, so if he wants to go off on a political rant, if some of the crowd happens to not agree with what he has to say (and out of 15,000 people, that's a guarantee), then I would imagine he'd welcome the back and forth. Which he seemed to, especially when the crowd started chanting "USA". 

Jeff also said he loved it.

Jeff loved being booed? Or did I miss something here?

Personally, I just think booing is classless and rude. The usual method of expressing disagreement at a concert is not to clap or cheer. If you really feel strongly you can walk out. 

Now, I’m not saying it isn't within someone rights to boo, just that I disagree with it. 

not that he loved being booed, he loved the back and forth between them and the crowd, of them making a political statement and the crowd doing the same. I think it was in PJ20 movie where he stated that. 

booing a performance is rude, yes (like when people boo nickelback, for instance). 

booing a political message is not rude. it is the direct opposite of clapping/cheering. if the door is open to one, it has to be open for the other. 

The whole show is the performance, not just the singing.

And no, booing is not the opposite of cheering. Not cheering/clapping is the opposite of cheering/clapping. That’s what you do if you don’t like the performance. Booing isn’t really any different than shouting at the performers. 

google "opposite of cheering/clapping". 

I can, and I'm sure the band can, differentiate between people booing a political sentiment between songs and booing when Ed fucks up the lyrics to wishlist. completely different things. 

rgambs said:

I think it's perfectly within the rights of an audience member to boo, but I think it's childish and lacks class. 
If you disagree, that's fine, I won't boo ya for it.

Yeah, it is certainly within their rights, of course. It's just rude as fuck.

Just to clarify, I never said anyone does not have the right to boo.  It's just not something I do. 

If Ed or Nugent or anybody got up on stage and said something I disagreed with I might, at most, shake my head and said, "no way man" (which would be drowned out by the booing, so who would know or care anyway).  Booing is about the last way to make somebody change their mind about something.  I can think of several better ways to make an opposing argument.  To my way of thinking, booing is childish at best, bullying at worst.