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I still get annoyed by RVM too. Last Exit is another one. He very rarely alternates the sun and ocean lyrics anymore or changes the end to 4 days. The last version I heard he said sun every timeThe Rock said:My little pet peeves:
Given to Fly should be slowed down.
SOLAT should slow down and have the proper bridge, because it's a great bass moment for Jeff.
RVM always gets the second chorus sung twice, and it's infuriating. I love the "I couldn't breathe"... first chorus, but Ed seemed to stop singing that one around 1996. Drives me nuts.
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RVM and Porch are 7-9 minutes each, every show. Just cut those jams a bit shorter.mcgruff10 said:even with speeding all these songs up what are we getting, maybe one more song snuck into the setlist? I mean I can't imagine it saves that much time.
Yeah I said it.
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Shame on you!!!HesCalledDyer said:
RVM and Porch are 7-9 minutes each, every show. Just cut those jams a bit shorter.mcgruff10 said:even with speeding all these songs up what are we getting, maybe one more song snuck into the setlist? I mean I can't imagine it saves that much time.
Yeah I said it.
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HesCalledDyer said:
RVM and Porch are 7-9 minutes each, every show. Just cut those jams a bit shorter.mcgruff10 said:even with speeding all these songs up what are we getting, maybe one more song snuck into the setlist? I mean I can't imagine it saves that much time.
Yeah I said it.
oh hell no, tell ed to stop talking so much.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
That could work, too. As the man himself said at the very first show I ever saw "Fuck the talkin, let's start rockin."mcgruff10 said:HesCalledDyer said:
RVM and Porch are 7-9 minutes each, every show. Just cut those jams a bit shorter.mcgruff10 said:even with speeding all these songs up what are we getting, maybe one more song snuck into the setlist? I mean I can't imagine it saves that much time.
Yeah I said it.
oh hell no, tell ed to stop talking so much.
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What venue would allow that without massive fines.Spiritual_Chaos said:
They could still play 3h.2-feign-reluctance said:
Think about it. Assignment is due Wednesday.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Where is the logic in this..?2-feign-reluctance said:But you won’t get 3 hour shows at regular speed!
Ludicrious speed! GOOOOO!!
Or play the same amount of songs and play 4,5 hours.www.cluthelee.com0 -
Let’s see some math boys. Slowed down =
shorter show (or fewer songs).www.cluthelee.com0 -
I'll take a quality 2.5 hour show over a sloppy, too fast 3 hour show any day.0
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Most songs are fine with a little kick in the ass, but they went too far with it, especially on a lot of Ten and Vs songs.0
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What you don't get is, that the people wanting them to slow down don't feel the need for an endless spotify playlist of songs. "Quality" over quantity. Etc.2-feign-reluctance said:Let’s see some math boys. Slowed down =
shorter show (or fewer songs).
So there is no problem with the math."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I had to edit out all of Ed's talking on the wrigley boots. They were 2 hrs and 49 mins for one, down from 3 hrs and two mins.
Okay, alive is six minutes long, then there is six mins of talking? Wow.
Also the whole fake ending and the ah ha uh oh section to sirens has to go. It isn't a good song in the first place, why make it eight or nine minutes?I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
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I'm saying there would be a large contingent of disappointed people if they played shorter shows. Thus my comment(s).Spiritual_Chaos said:
What you don't get is, that the people wanting them to slow down don't feel the need for an endless spotify playlist of songs. "Quality" over quantity. Etc.2-feign-reluctance said:Let’s see some math boys. Slowed down =
shorter show (or fewer songs).
So there is no problem with the math.
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Fewer songs yes. But shorter show doesn't make any sense.2-feign-reluctance said:Let’s see some math boys. Slowed down =
shorter show (or fewer songs).0 -
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Sounds like an old man at a restaurant:evenflow82 said:I had to edit out all of Ed's talking on the wrigley boots. They were 2 hrs and 49 mins for one, down from 3 hrs and two mins.
Okay, alive is six minutes long, then there is six mins of talking? Wow.
Also the whole fake ending and the ah ha uh oh section to sirens has to go. It isn't a good song in the first place, why make it eight or nine minutes?
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Wait a minute.2-feign-reluctance said:Let’s see some math boys. Slowed down =
shorter show (or fewer songs).
If a song is played its original tempo (slower) and it is 5 minutes, if it is played faster, for sake of argument let's say it clocks in at 4 minutes. Tell me how the slowed down versions times 30 songs make it a SHORTER show. You're not making any sense.
5 x 30=150. 4 x 30=120.
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Faster doesn't necessarily make it sloppy. They've mastered how to play fast. Matt Cameron knows how to play fast. I love long shows.bootlegger10 said:I'll take a quality 2.5 hour show over a sloppy, too fast 3 hour show any day.
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