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The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
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HesCalledDyer said:The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
Agree
Well regarding the resale. I bet you could put a listing in the Lost Dogs section for just about any 2016 boot for $10 and it would sell in under an hour.PB11041 said:
If the packaging was good, yes, but the packaging for the boots have been pretty poor post the 2000 series. There really is nothing unique to them and the resale value of CDs (particularly with these also being almost always CDR) is very poor.MedozK said:
And I guess that is the reason I am not digitaldarthvedder said:
This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
$17.98 for the CD
or
$14.99 for the Flac
I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.
Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
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I guess I should have clarified I that I used my analog bootleg code to knock 10 bucks off the FLAC price. However, I still paid for that when I renewed my subscription. Does the $17.98 include shipping? $3 isn't a bad deal for the reasons you listed.MedozK said:
And I guess that is the reason I am not digitaldarthvedder said:
This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
$17.98 for the CD
or
$14.99 for the Flac
I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.
Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
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Yea, $17.98 with free shipping in the US.darthvedder said:
I guess I should have clarified I that I used my analog bootleg code to knock 10 bucks off the FLAC price. However, I still paid for that when I renewed my subscription. Does the $17.98 include shipping? $3 isn't a bad deal for the reasons you listed.MedozK said:
And I guess that is the reason I am not digitaldarthvedder said:
This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
$17.98 for the CD
or
$14.99 for the Flac
I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.
Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)0 -
The ones who were widely released are greatHesCalledDyer said:The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
In my order history there are 2 download links (for the mp3s). One main one (that has 30 songs) and one for Bonus downloads (that has 7 songs that are already in the main download... Everyday people to Yellow Led). Is there any difference between this second batch of songs and the same ones in the main download?0
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Indeed! I still need to get me a copy of retail State College.Spiritual_Chaos said:
The ones who were widely released are greatHesCalledDyer said:The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.0 -
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
HesCalledDyer said:
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
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Thanks for the info!HesCalledDyer said:
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
Is there a quality difference in sound?
And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?0 -
Lossless compared to cd quality. It is still compressed. Hd flac lessmace1229 said:
Thanks for the info!HesCalledDyer said:
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
Is there a quality difference in sound?
And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/160 -
I suppose. But I'd never buy a used CD for more than $3-$5MedozK said:HesCalledDyer said:The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
Agree
Well regarding the resale. I bet you could put a listing in the Lost Dogs section for just about any 2016 boot for $10 and it would sell in under an hour.PB11041 said:
If the packaging was good, yes, but the packaging for the boots have been pretty poor post the 2000 series. There really is nothing unique to them and the resale value of CDs (particularly with these also being almost always CDR) is very poor.MedozK said:
And I guess that is the reason I am not digitaldarthvedder said:
This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
$17.98 for the CD
or
$14.99 for the Flac
I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.
Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)His eminence has yet to show.
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Can we use our yearly bootleg code for the vault download? If so, where do I redeem my code? ThanksMilwaukee 2014
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Yes you can...You enter the code in the promotional code box when you checkout.mschostok said:Can we use our yearly bootleg code for the vault download? If so, where do I redeem my code? Thanks
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Difference in sound? No, but a pressed disc should last longer than a CDR with all other variables being equal.mace1229 said:
Thanks for the info!HesCalledDyer said:
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
Is there a quality difference in sound?
And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?0 -
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FLAC and HD FLAC use the same lossless compression algorithm. The HD refers to a higher bit depth (24 as opposed to 16) and a higher sampling rate (192 kHz as opposed to 44.1 kHz).mace1229 said:
Thanks for the info!HesCalledDyer said:
Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made. The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc. With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.mace1229 said:
So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that? Is there any real quality difference?PB11041 said:I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own. What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs. That is a rip off.
Is there a quality difference in sound?
And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?
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davidos said:In my order history there are 2 download links (for the mp3s). One main one (that has 30 songs) and one for Bonus downloads (that has 7 songs that are already in the main download... Everyday people to Yellow Led).Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 20250
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I downloaded Soldier Field a few days ago and finally got to listen to it yesterday.
Wow. It was, indeed, an epic concert!
I hate to admit that I was a bit skeptical going in...I mean, I they're all good, right?
Sure.
But this one was really special.
Thanks for opening up the vault!Fenway 1 - 8/5/16
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