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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    edited January 2018
    The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.

    Agree
    PB11041 said:
    MedozK said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).
    And I guess that is the reason I am not digital
    $17.98 for the CD
    or
    $14.99 for the Flac

    I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.

    Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
    Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
    thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
    If the packaging was good, yes, but the packaging for the boots have been pretty poor post the 2000 series.  There really is nothing unique to them and the resale value of CDs (particularly with these also being almost always CDR) is very poor.  
    Well regarding the resale. I bet you could put a listing in the Lost Dogs section for just about any 2016 boot for $10 and it would sell in under an hour. 
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,674
    MedozK said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).
    And I guess that is the reason I am not digital
    $17.98 for the CD
    or
    $14.99 for the Flac

    I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.

    Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
    Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
    thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
    I guess I should have clarified I that I used my analog bootleg code to knock 10 bucks off the FLAC price. However, I still paid for that when I renewed my subscription. Does the $17.98 include shipping? $3 isn't a bad deal for the reasons you listed.
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    MedozK said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).
    And I guess that is the reason I am not digital
    $17.98 for the CD
    or
    $14.99 for the Flac

    I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.

    Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
    Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
    thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
    I guess I should have clarified I that I used my analog bootleg code to knock 10 bucks off the FLAC price. However, I still paid for that when I renewed my subscription. Does the $17.98 include shipping? $3 isn't a bad deal for the reasons you listed.
    Yea, $17.98 with free shipping in the US.
  • The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
    The ones who were widely released are great :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • davidos
    davidos Posts: 481
    In my order history there are 2 download links (for the mp3s). One main one (that has 30 songs) and one for Bonus downloads (that has 7 songs that are already in the main download... Everyday people to Yellow Led). Is there any difference between this second batch of songs and the same ones in the main download?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.
    The ones who were widely released are great :)
    Indeed!  I still need to get me a copy of retail State College.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,847
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited January 2018
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.


    good answer! good answer!

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,847
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.
    Thanks for the info!
    Is there a quality difference in sound?
    And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.
    Thanks for the info!
    Is there a quality difference in sound?
    And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?
    Lossless compared to cd quality. It is still compressed. Hd flac less
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    MedozK said:
    The 03 boots had the potential for awesome packaging, if not for those damn stickers.

    Agree
    PB11041 said:
    MedozK said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    This is exactly why I have gone digital only. With FLAC I can burn my own discs for less than a dollar (plus the cost of the boot, of course).
    And I guess that is the reason I am not digital
    $17.98 for the CD
    or
    $14.99 for the Flac

    I guess the $3 is worth it for me for the packaging, collectability and resale potential later down the road.

    Couldn't you say if you were just wanting digital...
    Buy the the CD for $17.98, rip the files to flac.. and then resale the CD for $10 (Giving someone a great deal on a CD)
    thus giving you the same Flac files for only $7.98 (Half price)
    If the packaging was good, yes, but the packaging for the boots have been pretty poor post the 2000 series.  There really is nothing unique to them and the resale value of CDs (particularly with these also being almost always CDR) is very poor.  
    Well regarding the resale. I bet you could put a listing in the Lost Dogs section for just about any 2016 boot for $10 and it would sell in under an hour. 
    I suppose. But I'd never buy a used CD for more than $3-$5
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  • mschostok
    mschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    Can we use our yearly bootleg code for the vault download? If so, where do I redeem my code? Thanks
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  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    edited January 2018
    mschostok said:
    Can we use our yearly bootleg code for the vault download? If so, where do I redeem my code? Thanks
    Yes you can...You enter the code in the promotional code box when you checkout.
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  • mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.
    Thanks for the info!
    Is there a quality difference in sound?
    And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?
    Difference in sound? No, but a pressed disc should last longer than a CDR with all other variables being equal.
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    Ceteris paribus 
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    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,674
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    PB11041 said:
    I honestly don't get the fascination with silver cds (replicated) over cdr-s (duplicated) both are inferior life stage products, but the latter if you buy digital files and burn them yourself provides a level of control over what you own.  What bugs me is the price that nugs ends up driving on duplicated discs.  That is a rip off. 
    So what is the difference between CD and CDR? I know CD is what you buy from the store, and CDR is what you can burn at home, right? BUt what is the difference other than that?  Is there any real quality difference?
    Real "silver" CDs are stamped from a glass master disc, not much different than how vinyl records are made.  The data is essentially encoded onto the injection molded disc.  With a CDR, a laser burns microscopic holes onto a dye layer of a premade disc, thus encoding the information. Replicated (silver) disc labels can be screen printed or sublimated, whereas CDRs are limited to inkjet printing.
    Thanks for the info!
    Is there a quality difference in sound?
    And wtf is up with HD Flac now? Isnt Flac lossless, so how can you have something better than zero loss of data?
    FLAC and HD FLAC use the same lossless compression algorithm. The HD refers to a higher bit depth (24 as opposed to 16) and a higher sampling rate (192 kHz as opposed to 44.1 kHz).
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,985
    davidos said:
    In my order history there are 2 download links (for the mp3s). One main one (that has 30 songs) and one for Bonus downloads (that has 7 songs that are already in the main download... Everyday people to Yellow Led).
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  • MYM
    MYM Austin, TX Posts: 206
    I downloaded Soldier Field a few days ago and finally got to listen to it yesterday.
    Wow. It was, indeed, an epic concert!

    I hate to admit that I was a bit skeptical going in...I mean, I they're all good, right? 
    Sure.
    But this one was really special.

    Thanks for opening up the vault!
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