If you go to a concert in Australia, DO NOT DANCE!

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/woman-ejected-by-security-for-dancing-at-stevie-nicks-concert-20171120-gzp2b5.html

Just warning you people.

Natashapearljamfan · November 2017

I feel for the lady...it's not very fair when you go to a concert.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

It's not a concert if you can't dance.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

It's not a concert if you can't dance.

my2hands · November 2017

Remind me to never see a concert in Australia... That's just f****** stupid

tempo_n_groove · November 2017

I wonder if she was drunk and flailing rather than dancing? I've seen a few of those in my times at concerts, lol.

PJ_Soul · November 2017

This is fucking weird. The article doesn't say why nobody is allowed to dance. Wtf is that about? And aren't the artists totally pissed off about this?? I don't understand this at all. It may be the dumbest rule I've ever heard of.
That said... why is the woman surprised that she got kicked out after repeatedly ignoring security's demands? That's kind of what happens when security tells you to stop doing something three times and you keep on doing it anyway. The result is not surprising in the least, and the woman is an idiot if she expected a different result. And yes, I'd love to see video of her dancing so I can see just how disruptive and annoying she was or wasn't. That is the only way we get the real story here.
At the end of the day, I think everyone needs to just go with the flow. If you're at a show where everyone is sitting down, don't be that one asshole who stands up and dances for the entire show, blocking everyone's view. And if everyone is standing up and rocking out, don't be the asshole who asks the people in front of you to sit down so you can see. Read the room and go with it.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

Australia is turning into a Nanny state.

bootlegger10 · November 2017

Was her name Elaine Benes??

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

bootlegger10 said:

Was her name Elaine Benes??

hahaha!

goldrush · November 2017

PJ_Soul said:

This is fucking weird. The article doesn't say why nobody is allowed to dance. Wtf is that about? And aren't the artists totally pissed off about this?? I don't understand this at all. It may be the dumbest rule I've ever heard of.
That said... why is the woman surprised that she got kicked out after repeatedly ignoring security's demands? That's kind of what happens when security tells you to stop doing something three times and you keep on doing it anyway. The result is not surprising in the least, and the woman is an idiot if she expected a different result. And yes, I'd love to see video of her dancing so I can see just how disruptive and annoying she was or wasn't. That is the only way we get the real story here.
At the end of the day, I think everyone needs to just go with the flow. If you're at a show where everyone is sitting down, don't be that one asshole who stands up and dances for the entire show, blocking everyone's view. And if everyone is standing up and rocking out, don't be the asshole who asks the people in front of you to sit down so you can see. Read the room and go with it.

I don't have any sympathy for her. Security told her to sit down three times because she was "leaving her allocated seat and causing disruption to other patrons". She ignored them and carried on anyway so of course they kicked her out.

I would have been pissed off if I was sat behind her. If you stand in front of someone who is sitting down, you totally block their view. It's not about not being able to dance, it's about not being a dick at a show.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

Why do people go to concerts if they just want to sit and be still. Stay home and watch a DVD concert instead.

BrainofBGA · November 2017

As an Australian I find our audiences pretty lame. I’ve never attended a concert outside Australia but you only have to view you tube to see Aussie audiences are boring for the most part! We can’t all be Sth American but cmon Aussies lift your game!

PJ_Soul · November 2017

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why do people go to concerts if they just want to sit and be still. Stay home and watch a DVD concert instead.

It depends on the concert. Some shows are better enjoyed when you sit down, stay quiet, and just absorb it. Others are better enjoyed when you rock the fuck out to it. This all relies on genre/tone of the artist of course.
... I am a rocker-outer when it's appropriate. I do know plenty of people, though, who simply do not feel it that way at all. I am not really sure why they don't, but they have told me that they actually feel awkward being demonstrative at concerts. I've even had some people tell me that they don't go to rock concerts because of the pressure they feel to go against their instincts and try to rock out when they just are not at all feeling the urge to. One of my closest friends is like this... it's like she feels like she's a lame person when she goes to a show with me because I rock out and am really feeling it, and she's just standing or sitting there feeling like she should be feeling/doing the same when she doesn't want to. And she claims to have no idea what to do with her hands and arms, lol. That means that she truly does not feel the music in that way. If she did, she wouldn't be overthinking how she's moving her arms, hahaha. It would just come naturally and she wouldn't care (for me, it does suck to attend a show with someone like that too; I like to attend with someone who's energized - we just aren't a good match as concert buddies, obviously).

I kind of feel like this all boils down to inborn disposition combined with the individuals emotional connection to music. It also seems to me that a lot of people lose that kind of energy with age. I don't understand why, but it sure does seem common. I mean, it's basically what we as kids were all afraid would happen to us when we grew up, and what we swore we wouldn't be like when we got "old". It seems like a lot of us failed on that promise, lol. I am thankful that I never fell prey to that part of aging ... I don't think it's really anyone's fault they aren't compelled to rock out and that they don't have the mental or physical energy to. I do kind of feel like they are missing out because the music doesn't seem to stir that much emotion in them, but I have to assume that they are still enjoying it on their own level. They wouldn't spend money on the tickets otherwise...... I do MUCH prefer rock concerts that are packed with a lot of rockers though. There is just so much more energy in the room and the band feeds off of that, the crowd feeds off of that some more - it's symbiotic.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why do people go to concerts if they just want to sit and be still. Stay home and watch a DVD concert instead.

It depends on the concert. Some shows are better enjoyed when you sit down, stay quiet, and just absorb it. Others are better enjoyed when you rock the fuck out to it. This all relies on genre/tone of the artist of course.
... I am a rocker-outer when it's appropriate. I do know plenty of people, though, who simply do not feel it that way at all. I am not really sure why they don't, but they have told me that they actually feel awkward being demonstrative at concerts. I've even had some people tell me that they don't go to rock concerts because of the pressure they feel to go against their instincts and try to rock out when they just are not at all feeling the urge to. One of my closest friends is like this... it's like she feels like she's a lame person when she goes to a show with me because I rock out and am really feeling it, and she's just standing or sitting there feeling like she should be feeling/doing the same when she doesn't want to. And she claims to have no idea what to do with her hands and arms, lol. That means that she truly does not feel the music in that way. If she did, she wouldn't be overthinking how she's moving her arms, hahaha. It would just come naturally and she wouldn't care (for me, it does suck to attend a show with someone like that too; I like to attend with someone who's energized - we just aren't a good match as concert buddies, obviously).

I kind of feel like this all boils down to inborn disposition combined with the individuals emotional connection to music. It also seems to me that a lot of people lose that kind of energy with age. I don't understand why, but it sure does seem common. I mean, it's basically what we as kids were all afraid would happen to us when we grew up, and what we swore we wouldn't be like when we got "old". It seems like a lot of us failed on that promise, lol. I am thankful that I never fell prey to that part of aging ... I don't think it's really anyone's fault they aren't compelled to rock out and that they don't have the mental or physical energy to. I do kind of feel like they are missing out because the music doesn't seem to stir that much emotion in them, but I have to assume that they are still enjoying it on their own level. They wouldn't spend money on the tickets otherwise...... I do MUCH prefer rock concerts that are packed with a lot of rockers though. There is just so much more energy in the room and the band feeds off of that, the crowd feeds off of that some more - it's symbiotic.

Yeah I get that not all shows you can move around.
I've gone to many shows, PJ included, where people around me up the front near the barriers are still as fuck but I just want to jump around, I feel awkward being the only person doing it but do it anyways, but I am self conscious as fuck.
I went to a Soundgarden show and my best friend and his partner wanted to stand where their seats were and watch, I wanted to go crazy so I ran to the floor area up the front and went crazy with everyone else. I felt bad leaving my friend and his partner but they understood I just needed to let that energy out. The best shows for me have always been the one where me and the people around me are all going crazy.
PJ in Melbourne 2009 was great because everyone was moving around. But other PJ shows here have been lame with the crowd just standing still and recording on their phone.

PJ_Soul · November 2017

Thoughts_Arrive said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why do people go to concerts if they just want to sit and be still. Stay home and watch a DVD concert instead.

It depends on the concert. Some shows are better enjoyed when you sit down, stay quiet, and just absorb it. Others are better enjoyed when you rock the fuck out to it. This all relies on genre/tone of the artist of course.
... I am a rocker-outer when it's appropriate. I do know plenty of people, though, who simply do not feel it that way at all. I am not really sure why they don't, but they have told me that they actually feel awkward being demonstrative at concerts. I've even had some people tell me that they don't go to rock concerts because of the pressure they feel to go against their instincts and try to rock out when they just are not at all feeling the urge to. One of my closest friends is like this... it's like she feels like she's a lame person when she goes to a show with me because I rock out and am really feeling it, and she's just standing or sitting there feeling like she should be feeling/doing the same when she doesn't want to. And she claims to have no idea what to do with her hands and arms, lol. That means that she truly does not feel the music in that way. If she did, she wouldn't be overthinking how she's moving her arms, hahaha. It would just come naturally and she wouldn't care (for me, it does suck to attend a show with someone like that too; I like to attend with someone who's energized - we just aren't a good match as concert buddies, obviously).

I kind of feel like this all boils down to inborn disposition combined with the individuals emotional connection to music. It also seems to me that a lot of people lose that kind of energy with age. I don't understand why, but it sure does seem common. I mean, it's basically what we as kids were all afraid would happen to us when we grew up, and what we swore we wouldn't be like when we got "old". It seems like a lot of us failed on that promise, lol. I am thankful that I never fell prey to that part of aging ... I don't think it's really anyone's fault they aren't compelled to rock out and that they don't have the mental or physical energy to. I do kind of feel like they are missing out because the music doesn't seem to stir that much emotion in them, but I have to assume that they are still enjoying it on their own level. They wouldn't spend money on the tickets otherwise...... I do MUCH prefer rock concerts that are packed with a lot of rockers though. There is just so much more energy in the room and the band feeds off of that, the crowd feeds off of that some more - it's symbiotic.

Yeah I get that not all shows you can move around.
I've gone to many shows, PJ included, where people around me up the front near the barriers are still as fuck but I just want to jump around, I feel awkward being the only person doing it but do it anyways, but I am self conscious as fuck.
I went to a Soundgarden show and my best friend and his partner wanted to stand where their seats were and watch, I wanted to go crazy so I ran to the floor area up the front and went crazy with everyone else. I felt bad leaving my friend and his partner but they understood I just needed to let that energy out. The best shows for me have always been the one where me and the people around me are all going crazy.
PJ in Melbourne 2009 was great because everyone was moving around. But other PJ shows here have been lame with the crowd just standing still and recording on their phone.

Yes, it is a downer when the show clearly calls for some exuberance and everyone is just standing there like a forest. Again, I blame it on people just getting blaaaahhhhh when they're older. It's too bad.
My favorite shows are always the ones with people going crazy too.

Thoughts_Arrive · November 2017

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Why do people go to concerts if they just want to sit and be still. Stay home and watch a DVD concert instead.

It depends on the concert. Some shows are better enjoyed when you sit down, stay quiet, and just absorb it. Others are better enjoyed when you rock the fuck out to it. This all relies on genre/tone of the artist of course.
... I am a rocker-outer when it's appropriate. I do know plenty of people, though, who simply do not feel it that way at all. I am not really sure why they don't, but they have told me that they actually feel awkward being demonstrative at concerts. I've even had some people tell me that they don't go to rock concerts because of the pressure they feel to go against their instincts and try to rock out when they just are not at all feeling the urge to. One of my closest friends is like this... it's like she feels like she's a lame person when she goes to a show with me because I rock out and am really feeling it, and she's just standing or sitting there feeling like she should be feeling/doing the same when she doesn't want to. And she claims to have no idea what to do with her hands and arms, lol. That means that she truly does not feel the music in that way. If she did, she wouldn't be overthinking how she's moving her arms, hahaha. It would just come naturally and she wouldn't care (for me, it does suck to attend a show with someone like that too; I like to attend with someone who's energized - we just aren't a good match as concert buddies, obviously).

I kind of feel like this all boils down to inborn disposition combined with the individuals emotional connection to music. It also seems to me that a lot of people lose that kind of energy with age. I don't understand why, but it sure does seem common. I mean, it's basically what we as kids were all afraid would happen to us when we grew up, and what we swore we wouldn't be like when we got "old". It seems like a lot of us failed on that promise, lol. I am thankful that I never fell prey to that part of aging ... I don't think it's really anyone's fault they aren't compelled to rock out and that they don't have the mental or physical energy to. I do kind of feel like they are missing out because the music doesn't seem to stir that much emotion in them, but I have to assume that they are still enjoying it on their own level. They wouldn't spend money on the tickets otherwise...... I do MUCH prefer rock concerts that are packed with a lot of rockers though. There is just so much more energy in the room and the band feeds off of that, the crowd feeds off of that some more - it's symbiotic.

Yeah I get that not all shows you can move around.
I've gone to many shows, PJ included, where people around me up the front near the barriers are still as fuck but I just want to jump around, I feel awkward being the only person doing it but do it anyways, but I am self conscious as fuck.
I went to a Soundgarden show and my best friend and his partner wanted to stand where their seats were and watch, I wanted to go crazy so I ran to the floor area up the front and went crazy with everyone else. I felt bad leaving my friend and his partner but they understood I just needed to let that energy out. The best shows for me have always been the one where me and the people around me are all going crazy.
PJ in Melbourne 2009 was great because everyone was moving around. But other PJ shows here have been lame with the crowd just standing still and recording on their phone.

Yes, it is a downer when the show clearly calls for some exuberance and everyone is just standing there like a forest. Again, I blame it on people just getting blaaaahhhhh when they're older. It's too bad.
My favorite shows are always the ones with people going crazy too.

One of my favourite shows was not a huge stadium show but at a small iconic beachside venue here called "The Esplanade Hotel" to see Aussie punk rock legends the Cosmic Psychos a few years ago. No phones, just people going nuts in a tight space. Felt better than any PJ show except Melbourne '09.

mookeywrench · November 2017

I'd like to hear the point of view from security or another concert goer.

goldrush · November 2017

mookeywrench said:

I'd like to hear the point of view from security or another concert goer.

Here you go..
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/stevie-nicks-concert-dancing-incident-highlights-etiquette-conundrum-20171122-gzqrdm.html

One concertgoer, Denise Gibbs, said Ms George's behaviour "put a damper on the night".

"She was sitting directly behind me and I had her in my ear," she said. "She was disruptive and rude. I felt very sorry for the security guards, they tried very hard to be calm."

Ms Gibbs said she was "furious" because she was a massive Stevie Nicks fan and had paid $500 to sit in her plum row.

"I wish they'd gotten rid of her earlier," she said. "We put up with her for a long time. The girl I was sitting next to, a 24-year-old, was horrified."

When The Age put these claims to Ms George, the Kew resident said she may have annoyed a few people but that was no reason to be dragged away from a seat someone had given her.

"There were a few people I know who were irritated by me dancing, but I definitely had access to a seat by a man whose wife had left," she said. "Otherwise, I would have gone back to where I was [originally] sitting. I was probably shouting, 'I love you Stevie!'"

Ms George said she did start swearing, but only when the security guards touched her.

"I'm not apologising for swearing," the 57-year-old said. "I don't think that justifies me, a woman, being dragged down the aisle. I'm not a 17-year-old rebel."

Spiritual_Chaos · November 2017

Haha.

eeriepadave · November 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGI2d31M7Ns

If you go to a concert in Australia, DO NOT DANCE!

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