America's Gun Violence
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Defending a hunter here is beyond pathetic.
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Of course he was aming at a deer. /sHughFreakingDillon said:
k, if that's the case, I can't say for sure who is at fault here. if it's a hunting area, shouldn't it be closed to people roaming around for recreation?mcgruff10 said:just read this:
http://nhpr.org/post/hunter-shoots-mountain-biker-hopkinton-park#stream/0
According to Fish and Game, the shooter told conservation officers he was aiming at a deer and didn't see the cyclist in the background. The investigation is ongoing. It has not yet been decided whether the hunter will be charged.
He was super excited to run up and get his trophy to put on his wall. woot!
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Depends on the terrain and time. The shooting happened right at dusk....who knows what the trail was like that the biker was on. Again, not defending the hunter but we don't know the whole story.Smellyman said:Defending a hunter here is beyond pathetic.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
The “responsible” Trump Administration with its “responsible” Attorney General Sessions. Yup, keep fighting that crime. Any guesses to the demographics of “fugitives?”
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Depends on the terrain and time. The shooting happened right at dusk....who knows what the trail was like that the biker was on. Again, not defending the hunter but we don't know the whole story.Smellyman said:Defending a hunter here is beyond pathetic.
I've been out of the loop for the last week as I was deer hunting with my dad in Northern Wisconsin where we have a small cabin in the woods.
We have 55 acres of woods and it borders the Nicolet National Forest, part of our land is actually the edge of a large Balsam swamp that continues into the Nicolet, where besides deer, there's black bears, wolves, bobcats and more. I listened to wolves howl back and forth for about 10 minutes on Saturday morning, about 20 minutes before daylight, that beautiful sound chills my spine every time, then I watched a pair of bald eagles fly around over head, midday. An awesome sight to see. Hunting isn't all about shooting whatever it is that your after. Allot of it is taking in nature. Anyway, fortunately for us there aren't many people around us where we hunt.
You still have to know your Target and Beyond.
For once I agree with smelly man lol.
There is no excuse for this Hunter, none. You need to know you're target and beyond.
But it does seem odd to have public recreational bike paths in the same place that they allow public hunting. That seems bizarre to me, because something like this is bound to happen. But I put this all on the Hunter you shouldn't be hunting in a public recreational place where there's likely to be other people roaming around. Even if it's legal, a responsible Hunter wouldn't hunt in such a place.Post edited by RYME on0 -
But the more I think about it, the more it sounds to me like he was shooting at a noise, or movement that he wasn't sure about. It seems very unlikely to me that he missed the deer he was shooting at, and the bullet just happened to strike somebody on a bicycle in the background. He certainly wouldn't want to admit that if that was the case. How embarrassing and reckless.
Well I'm glad that this woman is still alive and I hope she's doing well and I wish her a full recovery.
Are there any updates on the story? I can't find any.
This Hunter should be charged with Reckless discharge of a firearm, and causing injury to a person. I don't know what the legal terminology of that would be, but he definitely deserves a few charges.Post edited by RYME on0 -
Great post RYME, your experience hunting sounds a lot like other hunters I know.RYME said:mcgruff10 said:
Depends on the terrain and time. The shooting happened right at dusk....who knows what the trail was like that the biker was on. Again, not defending the hunter but we don't know the whole story.Smellyman said:Defending a hunter here is beyond pathetic.
I've been out of the loop for the last week as I was deer hunting with my dad in Northern Wisconsin where we have a small cabin in the woods.
We have 55 acres of woods and it borders the Nicolet National Forest, part of our land is actually the edge of a large Balsam swamp that continues into the Nicolet, where besides deer, there's black bears, wolves, bobcats and more. I listened to wolves howl back and forth for about 10 minutes on Saturday morning, about 20 minutes before daylight, that beautiful sound chills my spine every time, then I watched a pair of bald eagles fly around over head, midday. An awesome sight to see. Hunting isn't all about shooting whatever it is that your after. Allot of it is taking in nature. Anyway, fortunately for us there aren't many people around us where we hunt.
You still have to know your Target and Beyond.
For once I agree with smelly man lol.
There is no excuse for this Hunter, none. You need to know you're target and beyond.
But it does seem odd to have public recreational bike paths in the same place that they allow public hunting. That seems bizarre to me, because something like this is bound to happen. But I put this all on the Hunter you shouldn't be hunting in a public recreational place where there's likely to be other people roaming around. Even if it's legal, a responsible Hunter wouldn't hunt in such a place.0 -
I made a rather odd purchase the other day.
I did get a nice stocky little buck on Saturday evening about 4 p.m. For me, its not about getting a "trophy deer" that you mount on the wall, for me its about putting some meat in the freezer and having some good camaraderie with my old man at the same time. I do not hunt for prestige and bragging rights. But whitetail deer can be very difficult to get so when you do get one it is cause for a little celebration so, on the way to the (Bar of course), my dad and I took it up to a butcher shop in town, that is attached to a grocery store. Then back we went to the bar to celebrate and have a few "mixers"
(local term for a cocktails) The butcher shop calls you 2 days later when it's done and you go get it and pay for it in the grocery store at the service desk. (I have learned how to butcher my own deer, have done it a number of times, but it's a long slow tedious process and hard work, so it's worth every penny to me now, to take it somewhere pay $85 and be done with it.) They bring a grocery cart out to you with the boxes of your meat in it, all nicely wrapped in cellophane just like you would get beef from the meat department at your local grocery store. While I was waiting for the guy to go and get it, I was standing next to the magazine rack and saw this.
I had to have it of course!! So I purchased my venison meat, and this Rolling Stone Pearl Jam collector's edition magazine at the same time. I realized that this has nothing to do with America's gun violence as I just thought it was an interesting purchase, the Northwoods girl, or should I say,
(Girl From the North Country) lol, behind the counter looked at me with puzzled eyes when I tossed this magazine on the counter next to the meat invoice. Lol. I said do you like Pearl Jam? She a 20 something said, "Never heard him.".
Ha, ha...
I flipped it open and showed her this picture and I said "They're one heck of a fun band you don't know what you're missing." She replied with a "hughhh??"
Oh well...
Happy Thanksgiving!! & Cheers!!Post edited by RYME on0 -
Another “responsible” gun owner.
Hunter shoots, kills woman after mistaking her for a deer, officials say - Fox News https://apple.news/AM_fUvVu9SPiqP2mVup06JA
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That's horrific. He shot at a woman on private property after dusk without ascertaining what he was actually shooting at. I sure hope charges are forthcoming.Halifax2TheMax said:Another “responsible” gun owner.
Hunter shoots, kills woman after mistaking her for a deer, officials say - Fox News https://apple.news/AM_fUvVu9SPiqP2mVup06JA
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Dude broke all sorts of rules. I m hoping he gets some jail time. Definitely not a responsible gun owner.Halifax2TheMax said:Another “responsible” gun owner.
Hunter shoots, kills woman after mistaking her for a deer, officials say - Fox News https://apple.news/AM_fUvVu9SPiqP2mVup06JAI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Gees, you can't even walk your dog during hunting season.0 -
Yup, she existed but for that “responsible” gun owner. Because every “responsible” gun owner knows you go deer hunting with a pistol.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/us/new-york-woman-killed-hunter/index.html
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How not charged with a crime?Halifax2TheMax said:Yup, she existed but for that “responsible” gun owner. Because every “responsible” gun owner knows you go deer hunting with a pistol.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/us/new-york-woman-killed-hunter/index.html
F**kig tool shot a woman with a handgun thinking it was a deer from over 200 yards away.
If a guy is criminally responsible for drinking and driving and causing a fatality... they're sure as f**k criminally responsible for shooting a woman thinking she was a deer.
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Only in ‘merica. Notice the baby stroller. How soon we forget. Guess it doesn’t really matter? Nothing can be done.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-gunman-fired-over-1100-rounds-sheriff-says/
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Thoughts and prayers, there is nothing we can do....
yada yada yada
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I reckon it could have been a Black Friday sale on guns and ammo. Or maybe he had a bunch of neices and nephews about to celebrate birthdays? Either way, the unfettered and unregulated right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Can’t wait for the multi round drone version to hit the shelves. Yee haw!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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It's bullshit like this that responsible gun owners like myself and others cringe about. Because it's all fucking avoidable. Use your f****** head if you're going to use a gun and hunt. Pistols are not meant for long range shooting. Sounds to me like he was playing with his gun not actually Hunting. Shooting something 200 yards away with a pistol for fuck sakes man. They are not made for that.
Please do not lump all Hunters together with these careless idiots who mistakenly shoot people on bicycles, or think it's playtime when they get a gun in their f***** up hands and shoot at whatever they feel like, 200 yards away. These people have no business owning a guns and
Both of these dudes should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, throw the books at them, & throw them both in jail and throw away the keys. I'm talking about the guy who shot the girl on the Bicycle too he should be done living in society as well as this guy playing with his pistols.
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If you shoot someone in accident you should at least:
Spend time in jail
Never be allowed to handle own or otherwise possess a gun ever again
Pay compensation to your victim above and beyond medical expenses
These morons will be back hunting next season.0 -
The problem with these fucks, is that they're not actually hunting. They go out and just shoot at shadows and noises, not giving a flying fuck about responsibility. The first thing they teach you in gun safety and or hunting programs is that, once you squeeze the trigger, there is no way in hell you can call that bullet back and get a do over. So make damn sure you are sure about your target before you just let it rip!CM189191 said:If you shoot someone in accident you should at least:
Spend time in jail
Never be allowed to handle own or otherwise possess a gun ever again
Pay compensation to your victim above and beyond medical expenses
These morons will be back hunting next season.
I'm cussing a lot today, because non hunters and anti gun advocates lump us all together. Like a bunch of toothless white supremacist bastards firing away at anything that moves.
I'm trying to show the opposite side to this, and these reckless idiots aren't helping any.
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