America's Gun Violence

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Just saw a stat that police have killed more people since 2016 than all of the mass shootings over the last 40 years.  
    Just saw a report that white supremacist groups are infiltrating local and state law enforcement
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    How many of these shooters were prescribed anti-depressants?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Just saw a stat that police have killed more people since 2016 than all of the mass shootings over the last 40 years.  
    Just saw a report that white supremacist groups are infiltrating local and state law enforcement
    There are various criminal groups that have infiltrated police departments. This report you have seen should come as no surprise.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Just saw a stat that police have killed more people since 2016 than all of the mass shootings over the last 40 years.  
    Just saw a report that white supremacist groups are infiltrating local and state law enforcement
    There are various criminal groups that have infiltrated police departments. This report you have seen should come as no surprise.
    They’ve also infiltrated the military. There’s a whole bunch of Timothy McVeighs being created.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,671
    unsung said:
    How many of these shooters were prescribed anti-depressants?
    This one goes under reaching for correlations rather than deal with America’s gun problem. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    How many of these shooters were prescribed anti-depressants?
    How many of these shooters had guns?

    (spoiler: all of them)
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
  • Go Beavers
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    unsung said:
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
    Not just a gun ban, but a police officer stationed in everyone’s home to make sure there’s no funny business. 
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
    Not just a gun ban, but a police officer stationed in everyone’s home to make sure there’s no funny business. 
    Great. Now Unsung won't be available to respond to my post because he read this one and darted off to WalMart to buy another gun, a video surveillance system, and a shitload of ammo.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,745
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
    Not just a gun ban, but a police officer stationed in everyone’s home to make sure there’s no funny business. 
    Great. Now Unsung won't be available to respond to my post because he read this one and darted off to WalMart to buy another gun, a video surveillance system, and a shitload of ammo.
    and good luck finding any tin foil...
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  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
    Yes.
    guns should be banned.
    people should be banned from obtaining guns.
    people should be banned from transferring gun ownership.

    not all guns, and not all people.  just a lot more than are banned now. 

    are you calling for anti-depressants to be banned?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.
  • Go Beavers
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    unsung said:
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.

    unsung said:
    So are you calling for a gun ban?
    I did some research and found out that 100% of people die. So why bother with gun control?
  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.
    I'm plenty familiar with Rx in affects.  I am in the work comp insurance industry and my wife is a therapist.  We see the cost daily.

    Just trying to see the connection here.  Rx kills people, so we shouldn't regulate guns?  
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And that isn’t what I said.  
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.
    "Pharmaceutical industry" does not equate to "antidepressants"
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Explain why prescribed antidepressants are not pharmaceuticals please.
  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    Explain why prescribed antidepressants are not pharmaceuticals please.
    unsung said:
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.

    Guns don't kill people, the NRA does!
    Am I doing it right?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,919
    edited November 2017
    Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication, and ADHA meds are actually an extremely common factor amongst mass shooters. I'm talking REALLY common. Like, the vast majority of mass shooters are on something or other in that category, or were at some point (the most compelling studies are the ones that explore the connection between ritalin use as a kid and violent tendencies as adolescents or adults - the Columbine massacre led researchers to explore this). However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the meds are the cause, obviously. Nobody has ever been able to prove that is the case. It simply proves that the vast majority mass shooters have some sort of mental health problem. And that isn't exactly a surprise (and of course that doesn't mean that everyone with mental illness is dangerous. 99% of people with mental illnesses are not violent - I'm sure everyone here knows that already. Also, of course, mental illness does not = insanity. Mental illness is no excuse for committing murder unless we're talking severe mental illnesses that involve delusion and shit).
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Explain why prescribed antidepressants are not pharmaceuticals please.
    unsung said:
    If you actually believe the over prescribed pharmaceutical industry hasn’t killed more people than guns then you might want to do a little studying.

    Guns don't kill people, the NRA does!
    Am I doing it right?
    The proper statement would have been, "guns don't kill people, the gun industry does."
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