America's Gun Violence

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ha, ha! Hilarious! Another responsible gun owner. Remind me not to go to church.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/17/a-man-accidentally-shot-himself-and-his-wife-at-a-church-shortly-after-a-discussion-on-shootings/
    Lol

    "People. I said people. You don't know what you're talking about. It's important to be armed and prepared. And if your safety is on... well then you're gun won't help you when a..."

    Kaboom

    "Owwy owwy. My pecker. Somebody help. Owwy owwy."

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    I wish Queen would have wrote 'I'm in Love With My Gun' versus 'I'm in Love With My Car'.

    It could be a theme song for some. And everybody needs a theme song.
    I agree:
    https://youtu.be/ocHdNYvFtkQ


    I'm confused. Advertisement? Gene Simmons? Heckler?

    I tried to play along.
    Weird, don’t know how it linked to that, lol. Let’s try again!
    https://youtu.be/nrIPxlFzDi0

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ha, ha! Hilarious! Another responsible gun owner. Remind me not to go to church.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/17/a-man-accidentally-shot-himself-and-his-wife-at-a-church-shortly-after-a-discussion-on-shootings/
    Lol

    "People. I said people. You don't know what you're talking about. It's important to be armed and prepared. And if your safety is on... well then you're gun won't help you when a..."

    Kaboom

    "Owwy owwy. My pecker. Somebody help. Owwy owwy."

    “East Tennessee”...that’s all you had to say, lol
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    I wish Queen would have wrote 'I'm in Love With My Gun' versus 'I'm in Love With My Car'.

    It could be a theme song for some. And everybody needs a theme song.
    I agree:
    https://youtu.be/ocHdNYvFtkQ


    I'm confused. Advertisement? Gene Simmons? Heckler?

    I tried to play along.
    Weird, don’t know how it linked to that, lol. Let’s try again!
    https://youtu.be/nrIPxlFzDi0

    I was thinking that was odd.

    And you idiot... I watched the whole damn thing trying to figure out what you were getting at. I can never get that time back.

    Maybe I'm the idiot lol?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    I wish Queen would have wrote 'I'm in Love With My Gun' versus 'I'm in Love With My Car'.

    It could be a theme song for some. And everybody needs a theme song.
    I agree:
    https://youtu.be/ocHdNYvFtkQ


    I'm confused. Advertisement? Gene Simmons? Heckler?

    I tried to play along.
    Weird, don’t know how it linked to that, lol. Let’s try again!
    https://youtu.be/nrIPxlFzDi0

    I was thinking that was odd.

    And you idiot... I watched the whole damn thing trying to figure out what you were getting at. I can never get that time back.

    Maybe I'm the idiot lol?
    Haha!  Just be thankful you were not rick rolled :)
  • unsung
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    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    LOL!

    Ghost guns!
    “Who ya gonna call”
    I'm glad you both think it's funny that criminals have yet another loophole to buy a "gun". I won't ask you if a law should be passed making it illegal to purchase these kits because we all know that would infringe on the 2nd Amendment and the NRA won't make it an issue so it's dead. Laugh away. Stay locked and loaded because there could be a ghost haunting your life someday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/loophole-lets-criminals-buy-untraceable-ghost-guns-online-n719121

    It is legal to make your own, it is illegal to sell or buy them.

    So there is no "loophole letting a criminal buy a gun".  Fake news again.

    I wouldn't know though, never have seen a ghost gun.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ha, ha! Hilarious! Another responsible gun owner. Remind me not to go to church.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/11/17/a-man-accidentally-shot-himself-and-his-wife-at-a-church-shortly-after-a-discussion-on-shootings/
    Somehow I doubt anyone has to.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    LOL!

    Ghost guns!
    “Who ya gonna call”
    I'm glad you both think it's funny that criminals have yet another loophole to buy a "gun". I won't ask you if a law should be passed making it illegal to purchase these kits because we all know that would infringe on the 2nd Amendment and the NRA won't make it an issue so it's dead. Laugh away. Stay locked and loaded because there could be a ghost haunting your life someday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/loophole-lets-criminals-buy-untraceable-ghost-guns-online-n719121

    It is legal to make your own, it is illegal to sell or buy them.

    So there is no "loophole letting a criminal buy a gun".  Fake news again.

    I wouldn't know though, never have seen a ghost gun.
    I, for one, do not believe in no ghosts.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It al came from that idiot from Ca, Kevin DeLeon, iirc.  Ghost gunner 30rd/sec clips.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I seriously doubt that any survivors become indifferent after such an event, let alone 33% of them.

    When it comes to preventable deaths in the tens of thousands, trying to minimize them with a low percentage compared to the population definitely becomes problematic.... Thirty makes a good point in mentioning terrorist attack victims. The same people who reject gun reform also tend to be pretty gung ho about fighting terror, when in fact gun owners are far more dangerous than terrorists are if you're considering victim stats. It's a valid counterpoint.
    gun owners are more dangers that terrorists?  that's a new one.

    should I pull the typical question here and ask where are your links or data to prove that "the same people who reject gun reforms also tend to be pretty gung ho about fighting terror?"

    and the terrorist attacks were a god damn act of war, our gun issue is not an act of war.  Big difference.  
    I mean over 10,000 people die in drunken driving accidents a year, should we ban bars? Responsible drinker until they weren't right?
    Um, I think you missed my point here.

    Yeah, if you're considering victim statistics, gun owners are way more dangerous than terrorists in America. I don't know if it's new or not, but it's a hard fact.

    Obviously I have no links or data to prove that people against gun reform are gung ho about fighting terrorism, but I am comfortable saying that it's a very safe assumption that I've made after lots of observation and the attitudes expressed by politicians who express that sentiment and all the voters who vote for them.

    Hey man, you're the one who opened the door to what I'm saying. You're the one who quoted a statistic about death and claimed it meant something to your perspective. I'm not sure why you're now trying to say that this tactic doesn't work, because, in case you missed it, that is the exact point I was trying to make when you did it.

    Aaah "in America"...that makes more sense.  You didn't have those two words in your original post. And of course more people have been killed by firearms than terrorists.  However I don't like your use of the word "dangerous" but whatever.  

    Well it is the "America's Gun Violence" thread.
    I'm not sure why you don't like the word "dangerous". Can you explain?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited November 2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    I seriously doubt that any survivors become indifferent after such an event, let alone 33% of them.

    When it comes to preventable deaths in the tens of thousands, trying to minimize them with a low percentage compared to the population definitely becomes problematic.... Thirty makes a good point in mentioning terrorist attack victims. The same people who reject gun reform also tend to be pretty gung ho about fighting terror, when in fact gun owners are far more dangerous than terrorists are if you're considering victim stats. It's a valid counterpoint.
    gun owners are more dangers that terrorists?  that's a new one.

    should I pull the typical question here and ask where are your links or data to prove that "the same people who reject gun reforms also tend to be pretty gung ho about fighting terror?"

    and the terrorist attacks were a god damn act of war, our gun issue is not an act of war.  Big difference.  
    I mean over 10,000 people die in drunken driving accidents a year, should we ban bars? Responsible drinker until they weren't right?
    Um, I think you missed my point here.

    Yeah, if you're considering victim statistics, gun owners are way more dangerous than terrorists in America. I don't know if it's new or not, but it's a hard fact.

    Obviously I have no links or data to prove that people against gun reform are gung ho about fighting terrorism, but I am comfortable saying that it's a very safe assumption that I've made after lots of observation and the attitudes expressed by politicians who express that sentiment and all the voters who vote for them.

    Hey man, you're the one who opened the door to what I'm saying. You're the one who quoted a statistic about death and claimed it meant something to your perspective. I'm not sure why you're now trying to say that this tactic doesn't work, because, in case you missed it, that is the exact point I was trying to make when you did it.

    Aaah "in America"...that makes more sense.  You didn't have those two words in your original post. And of course more people have been killed by firearms than terrorists.  However I don't like your use of the word "dangerous" but whatever.  

    Well it is the "America's Gun Violence" thread.
    I'm not sure why you don't like the word "dangerous". Can you explain?
    yes it is an "americans gun violence" thread but we do talk about other countries so the "in america" is pretty key.
    I don't like the word "dangerous" because I would say over 99% of legal gun owners in the united states aren't dangerous however all terrorists are dangerous.  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/shocking-moment-householder-shoots-dead-burglar-ran-wife-sending-crashing-swimming-pool-095428890.html

    This is the shocking moment a man shot dead a burglar running at his wife, causing him to fall head first into a swimming pool.

    CCTV footage of the incident in Pocone, in the central Brazilian state of Mato Grosso, shows the burglar fall into the garden pool after being shot by the man he was trying to rob.

    Two men can be seen standing near the pool as a woman parks a bicycle against the garden wall.

    The scene quickly turns chaotic as the woman turns and shouts out at her husband, who was said to be in their bedroom, after she noticed an intruder coming out of their house.

    A man is then seen bursting out of the house and running up the garden – straight towards the woman who called out.

    However, the burglar then collapses into the pool as he passes after it, having been shot and killed by the husband.

    The man who fired the fatal shot was not seen in the clip and was not named in reports of the incident.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,194
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    A gun was used, there was violence, and it was not in the US. Seems reasonable. 

    And I don't recall reading  that it wasn't okay to post it. 
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  • Go Beavers
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    How do you know he was a good guy?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Go Beavers said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    How do you know he was a good guy?
    Defending your family against a burglar who charges toward your wife doesn't equate to being a good guy in your book?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    Has it been snowing around these parts lately? Awful lot of snowflakes around, it seems. And since you brought it up, I do believe Brazil has a lot of guns and as a result, a lot of gun related deaths.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    How do you know he was a good guy?
    Defending your family against a burglar who charges toward your wife doesn't equate to being a good guy in your book?  
    I would have thought you’d be able to find an example in the good ‘ol US of A seeing how we always hear about how the only way to stop a bad guy is a good guy with a gun.
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  • Go Beavers
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    How do you know he was a good guy?
    Defending your family against a burglar who charges toward your wife doesn't equate to being a good guy in your book?  

    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OP, please change the title to “World’s Gun Violence.” Thank you.
    So in review: comparing anything anti-gun related in the United States to other countries is ok. however it is not ok to show how a good guy in other countries  uses a firearm to protect his family. Got ya. 
    Seems odd to arrest the shooter for homicide. There’s always more to the story
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