America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Why would they need to bring 1000 rounds to the range? Why couldn’t the range supply the ammo? I don’t understand why anyone would need 1000 rounds in their possession. How many rounds does a combat soldier take on patrol or on a mission to kill the enemy? On average?
    range ammo is waaaaaay overpriced.  it's better/cost efficient to bring your own.  

    so why is 1000 rounds too much?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    range ammo is waaaaaay overpriced.  it's better/cost efficient to bring your own.  

    so why is 1000 rounds too much?
    Why is it not enough? Do you go to the range and pop off 1000 rounds in one visit?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Why is it not enough? Do you go to the range and pop off 1000 rounds in one visit?
    You didn't answer the question.  why is 1000 rounds too much?
    don't answer a question by asking a question. ;)
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    You didn't answer the question.  why is 1000 rounds too much?
    don't answer a question by asking a question. ;)
    Seems unreasonable to me, so yes.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Seems unreasonable to me, so yes.
    what makes it unreasonable?  what seems reasonable?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    At first glance I don't  think it's too much.
    But how is it being used?
    Old school 6 shooter?
    Desert Eagle with multiple mags?
    AR-15 with multiple mags?
    An automatic  weapon of some sort?
    Or to be shared among fellow entbusiasts?
  • mcgruff10 said:
    what makes it unreasonable?  what seems reasonable?
    Most reasonable reasons given for owning firearms, such as hunting, self defense of home or person and hobby, range shooting, why would you need 1000 rounds? If you can’t kill something you hunt or someone attacking you personally or invading your home with less than 1000 rounds, you have problems. Does ammo have an expiration date or degrade over time if not kept in ideal conditions? Why would you need 1000 rounds? How many rounds do people shoot when they hunt? Does one hunter lug 1000 rounds?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Posts: 31,604
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 

    unsung said:
    What do you mean?
    That we will all be back here again to debate after the next massacre 
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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Most reasonable reasons given for owning firearms, such as hunting, self defense of home or person and hobby, range shooting, why would you need 1000 rounds? If you can’t kill something you hunt or someone attacking you personally or invading your home with less than 1000 rounds, you have problems. Does ammo have an expiration date or degrade over time if not kept in ideal conditions? Why would you need 1000 rounds? How many rounds do people shoot when they hunt? Does one hunter lug 1000 rounds?
    what does hunting have to do with going to the range?  I'm not saying you need a thousand rounds to defend your home or go hunting.  
    fyi: typical hunting scenarios:  pheasant/quail/duck/quail: up to 3 rounds using a shotgun.  turkey: i've never shot more than 2 shots.  deer: I think i have fired only once using a rifle and maybe twice using a rifled slug/buck shot.

    so are you saying having a thousand rounds in your home is too much to have?  it's not like i pack every single round i own into mags lol.
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  • Posts: 10,407
    mcgruff10 said:
    what makes it unreasonable?  what seems reasonable?
    I'm curious about what point you're trying to make. Do you think 1000 is unreasonable or does it depend?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    tbergs said:
    I'm curious about what point you're trying to make. Do you think 1000 is unreasonable or does it depend?
    I'll go back to my original question:
    what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    At our last group shoot I went through 1200.  It was a fun day for all.
  • Posts: 31,604
    mcgruff10 said:
    So serious question guys: what are your thoughts/opinions if a shooter brings a 1000 rounds of ammo to a range?
    granted all laws are being followed: firearms are secure and guns and ammo are separate. 
    No thoughts at all since I don't know anything about guns or ammo my hobbies are more about nature , going to a range to shoot guns is nothing I'd ever do maybe if I was paid to do it ...
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    edited November 2017
    Your boy got his ass kicked 
    Snaked from behind by another violent leftist.  Rand should know better.
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    unsung said:
    Snaked from behind by another violent leftist.  Rand should know better.
    Sure off course he was how else can you explain him getting his ass kicked 
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    Not shocking that you find assault perfectly acceptable. 
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    unsung said:
    At our last group shoot I went through 1200.  It was a fun day for all.
    I wish my fun stuff was included in the Constitution. SAD!
  • New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    I wish my fun stuff was included in the Constitution. SAD!
    What is your fun stuff that you speak of and how would it add to the conversation?
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  • And this why the conversation never goes anywhere. You asked a question and I answered it. I then get ridiculed for my answer. Yes, 1000 rounds seems excessive. I’d be pissed if my house burned down because my douche neighbor smoked in bed, caused his house to catch on fire and those rounds popping off kept the fire fighters at bay, all because he wanted to pop 1200 rounds at the range.

    Funny thing is, you gun nuts, as PJPower so eloquently put it, can’t cite specific examples where restrictions, banning guns, or government taking them away, has happened. Meanwhile, the anti gun nuts can cite multiple examples of why there should be restrictions. The Texas church shooter piopped off 450 rounds in less than ten minutes. He probably fled because he was out of ammo except for what he shot himself with. And you guys are fine with it. Nothing can be done. Why do you “need” 1000 rounds for the range?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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