America's Gun Violence

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  • unsung said:
    It is the perfect answer, we can disarm Communists, antifa, Nazi's, gang members, illegal aliens...all with one swipe of the pen.  

    What are they, 90% responsible for murders in the 1900's?
    White males. We need to disarm white males and keep them from entering our country. Extreme vetting of white males trying to enter the country and deportation of any found to have committed a crime, no matter how small nor how long they've been here. If they were born here, they're anchor babies and should be deported as well. White males, they're the problem.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung said:
    It is the perfect answer, we can disarm Communists, antifa, Nazi's, gang members, illegal aliens...all with one swipe of the pen.  

    What are they, 90% responsible for murders in the 1900's?
    Full troll mode today.
    Is that the synonym for truth teller?
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    edited November 2017
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Post edited by riley540 on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited November 2017
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    That's impossible. There is no solution that will work that doesn't include reducing the number of guns owned by citizens. I'm not talking about "disarming" though. I'm talking about changing American culture over time so that everybody doesn't want guns and so that so many people don't revere them in such a way. America has a serious gun fetish thing going on and that has to stop. That is the key. It may never happen, but if it does, it will take generations.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Don't make guns so easy to acquire that's where i would start or putting gun shop owners in jail if they fail to implement any regulations at time of purchase and def stop any gun sales on the internet or gun shows make it more difficult for anyone to just go to shows and comeout with AR15'S ....
    What do you propose that should be done  about stopping these massacres that happen every month or so ?
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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Don't make guns so easy to acquire that's where i would start or putting gun shop owners in jail if they fail to implement any regulations at time of purchase and def stop any gun sales on the internet or gun shows make it more difficult for anyone to just go to shows and comeout with AR15'S ....
    What do you propose that should be done  about stopping these massacres that happen every month or so ?
    Mass violence is hard to stop, but just little things can help. We can use the Texas massacre as an example. The government botched and forgot to enter things into a computer. People have jobs and they need to do them better. 
    I also believe private gun sales (second hand) need to be performed at a licensed gun store to legally transfer registry at point of sale. I’m not one for filling up prisons, so I’d say people that fail to do this get a hearty fine. I’d rather have law breakers pay a bunch of money than to have us fork out millions to house them. But that’s another topic! Ha!! 

    Sadly the the majority of mass killings a performed by bad people. And it’s no saying why some people are bad. Little things like being a good parent, being a good role model. Being an awesome teacher. This stuff can go a long ways and over time possibly reduce the amount of evil people in the world. Something as simple as thanking the checker at the grocery store, or helping someone carry their groceries up the apartment stairs. Stuff like that can go a long ways. 

    Some people are born bad. And unfortunately would find ways to commit murder even if guns were outlawed. And the gun owners of America would not allow the seizure of their guns. I think that would be really ugly. 

    I guess my best answer is we should all just be good to each other. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited November 2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    That's impossible. There is no solution that will work that doesn't include reducing the number of guns owned by citizens. I'm not talking about "disarming" though. I'm talking about changing American culture over time so that everybody doesn't want guns and so that so many people don't revere them in such a way. America has a serious gun fetish thing going on and that has to stop. That is the key. It may never happen, but if it does, it will take generations.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,554
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Gang members have something in common with a lot of gun owners, they get guns to protect themselves from a perceived threat.  
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Gang members have something in common with a lot of gun owners, they get guns to protect themselves from a perceived threat.  
    Gang members shoot each other in the streets over drugs. My aunt has a gun in her safe Incase of an intruder when she’s home alone. It’s different 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have

    Perhaps you could ask Canada, or Australia, or England, or Japan, or Spain, or Singapore, or France, or Germany, or Switzerland, lr New Zealand, or Luxembourg, or Russia, or Israel, or Ireland, or Netherlands, or South Korea.  

    Basically every other modernized country in the world.  Consult their laws, duplicate them here.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,407
    riley540 said:
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Gang members have something in common with a lot of gun owners, they get guns to protect themselves from a perceived threat.  
    Gang members shoot each other in the streets over drugs. My aunt has a gun in her safe Incase of an intruder when she’s home alone. It’s different 
    That's a very simplistic characterization of gangs that does not at all explain the situation.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    tbergs said:
    riley540 said:
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have
    Gang members have something in common with a lot of gun owners, they get guns to protect themselves from a perceived threat.  
    Gang members shoot each other in the streets over drugs. My aunt has a gun in her safe Incase of an intruder when she’s home alone. It’s different 
    That's a very simplistic characterization of gangs that does not at all explain the situation.
    Enlighten me on gangs
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    It is the perfect answer, we can disarm Communists, antifa, Nazi's, gang members, illegal aliens...all with one swipe of the pen.  

    What are they, 90% responsible for murders in the 1900's?
    Full troll mode today.
    Is that the synonym for truth teller?

    let's break this down:
    you want to disarm all democrats

    in doing so, as an avid political poster here, you know as well as anyone that:

    a) a disproportionate amount of black people in america vote democrat
    b) a disproportionate amount of black people make up those incarcerated

    your solution is a thinly veiled way to disarm all black people, because in your eyes, they are the problem. 

    tell me i'm wrong. 
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You are wrong.  I suggested disarming all leftists.  That would include the Communists like antifa, all of the Nazis, all illegal aliens, and most of the gang members.

    Communism and Nazism were responsible for most of the government caused deaths in the 1900's and gang members are likely the cause of most of the murders now.  
    Nearly everyone here has expressed that they desired a reduction of firearms, I say lead by example.  Have your lefty friends all turn in their guns, don't wait for government to tell you to.  Step up.

    Or was that not what you wanted?


  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have

    Perhaps you could ask Canada, or Australia, or England, or Japan, or Spain, or Singapore, or France, or Germany, or Switzerland, lr New Zealand, or Luxembourg, or Russia, or Israel, or Ireland, or Netherlands, or South Korea.  

    Basically every other modernized country in the world.  Consult their laws, duplicate them here.
    We already had that forced on us, that's why we are no longer part of England.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    unsung said:
    You are wrong.  I suggested disarming all leftists.  That would include the Communists like antifa, all of the Nazis, all illegal aliens, and most of the gang members.

    Communism and Nazism were responsible for most of the government caused deaths in the 1900's and gang members are likely the cause of most of the murders now.  
    Nearly everyone here has expressed that they desired a reduction of firearms, I say lead by example.  Have your lefty friends all turn in their guns, don't wait for government to tell you to.  Step up.

    Or was that not what you wanted?


    i don't know anyone who owns a semi-automatic gun. all i know of is people with hunting rifles. which i have zero problem with. 

    nazis are not leftists. everyone knows this. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    riley540 said:
    Real question. 

    Can someone please offer a legit solution to reducing the number of gun deaths without disarming innocent citizens? 

    My idea to fixing some of the problem problem would be suicide prevention as well as inner city development to reduce the amount of young people joining gangs. Some small things that might continue the declining number of gun deaths in the US. Just curious to know what other realistic solutions people have

    Perhaps you could ask Canada, or Australia, or England, or Japan, or Spain, or Singapore, or France, or Germany, or Switzerland, lr New Zealand, or Luxembourg, or Russia, or Israel, or Ireland, or Netherlands, or South Korea.  

    Basically every other modernized country in the world.  Consult their laws, duplicate them here.
    We already had that forced on us, that's why we are no longer part of England.
    and why you are the shit soup you are in right now. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    unsung said:
    You are wrong.  I suggested disarming all leftists.  That would include the Communists like antifa, all of the Nazis, all illegal aliens, and most of the gang members.

    Communism and Nazism were responsible for most of the government caused deaths in the 1900's and gang members are likely the cause of most of the murders now.  
    Nearly everyone here has expressed that they desired a reduction of firearms, I say lead by example.  Have your lefty friends all turn in their guns, don't wait for government to tell you to.  Step up.

    Or was that not what you wanted?


    why do you insist on disarming only one group? why not, as halifax suggested, disarm all white men? they are the perps of most/all the mass shootings, right?
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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    unsung said:
    You are wrong.  I suggested disarming all leftists.  That would include the Communists like antifa, all of the Nazis, all illegal aliens, and most of the gang members.

    Communism and Nazism were responsible for most of the government caused deaths in the 1900's and gang members are likely the cause of most of the murders now.  
    Nearly everyone here has expressed that they desired a reduction of firearms, I say lead by example.  Have your lefty friends all turn in their guns, don't wait for government to tell you to.  Step up.

    Or was that not what you wanted?


    i don't know anyone who owns a semi-automatic gun. all i know of is people with hunting rifles. which i have zero problem with. 

    nazis are not leftists. everyone knows this. 
    Hunting rifles are semi - automatic. 

    You bull the trigger and one bullet comes out. Non-semi auto guns have been banned since the 80s. 
    hunting rifles, AKs, hand guns, ARs, they are all semi-automatic 
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