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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    Looks like all of the investigation is concentrated on pro-Russia work that these “collutants” well before the 2016 elections. These people chase the money regardless of their political affiliations.  This doesn’t specifically seem to be about HC or DT.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    Looks like all of the investigation is concentrated on pro-Russia work that these “collutants” well before the 2016 elections. These people chase the money regardless of their political affiliations.  This doesn’t specifically seem to be about HC or DT.
    You're right.  Except for the case of Papadopolous.  His conviction is directly tied into the election and I think he is the person most dangerous to Trump right now, directly. 

    Manafort and Flynn are dangerous not about these charges, but the seriousness of them and what it would take to make them talk.  Mueller will likely target Flynn's son to make Flynn talk.  I have to believe Flynn is next...
    I heard on the news that the investigation of Manafort goes right up to 2017, so yes, also including when he was working on Trump's campaign... was the news wrong this morning?
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  • my2hands
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    The Juggler said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    Looks like all of the investigation is concentrated on pro-Russia work that these “collutants” well before the 2016 elections. These people chase the money regardless of their political affiliations.  This doesn’t specifically seem to be about HC or DT.

    The "Fox and Friends" is strong with this one...
    Lol
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    127 million Facebook dupes, some right here on this forum. Amazing. If only Hillary had thought of it. Where’s Al Gore when you need him?
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  • JC29856
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    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
  • mrussel1
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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?

    And let's not forget who a principle at the Mercury Group is... former Congressman Vin Weber (R) MN.  

  • josevolution
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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
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  • JC29856
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    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
  • CM189191
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    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    joe arpaio should be rotting in jail
  • JC29856
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    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    joe arpaio should be rotting in jail
    exhibit B - good example
    the entire W Bush administration should also be in jail or the hague (coincidentally W has become a darling to Dems now!)
    althou "they" did nail Martha Stewart!
  • JimmyV
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    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    Put a pin in this. If it's true that investigations are dog and pony shows and nothing ever comes from them, it shouldn't be necessary for Trump to pardon his relatives, his political allies, or himself. We'll see how that plays out.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    I’m sensing some, or should I say, feeling, some bern for Hillary? Or could it be Bernie and his wife are “guilty?” Don’t confuse actual crimes committed with actual “witch hunts.” Abscam, house post office, Eliot abrahms, Edwin Meese and others come to mind. Google yo!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    joe arpaio should be rotting in jail
    exhibit B - good example
    the entire W Bush administration should also be in jail or the hague (coincidentally W has become a darling to Dems now!)
    althou "they" did nail Martha Stewart!
    he has not become a darling to dems now. he was always seen as the buffoon puppet to the Cheney regime. everyone always believed, and still believe to my knowledge, that Cheney was responsible for the decision to invade the mid east after 9/11. 
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  • JC29856
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    joe arpaio should be rotting in jail
    exhibit B - good example
    the entire W Bush administration should also be in jail or the hague (coincidentally W has become a darling to Dems now!)
    althou "they" did nail Martha Stewart!
    he has not become a darling to dems now. he was always seen as the buffoon puppet to the Cheney regime. everyone always believed, and still believe to my knowledge, that Cheney was responsible for the decision to invade the mid east after 9/11. 
    Im going by this piece

    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/357109-poll-dems-have-favorable-view-of-george-w-bush


  • mrussel1
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    edited November 2017
    JC29856 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    its been reported those companys are the lobbying firms Mercury and Podesta Group. Interesting that Podesta Group retroactively filed amended FARA forms in Sept and Oct. Those FARA forms were part of the Manafort Gates indictment. I wonder if Manafort and Gates were given the opportunity to make amendments to their filings and if they declined?
    Again when do you think charges will be brought forth on HRC surely she's guilty of a crime no ? 
    As Ive said many times, investigations are dog and pony shows, nothing much ever comes of them. Name the last investigation special or congressional where someone went to jail? There is them and there is us, different rules/laws for them. Perfect example, check the charges and penalties for those that were "caught up" (some journalists) protesting Trumps inauguration then compare them to Manaforts and Gates who earned millions manipulating foreign affairs, lied, evaded taxes and "conspired against the US".
    joe arpaio should be rotting in jail
    exhibit B - good example
    the entire W Bush administration should also be in jail or the hague (coincidentally W has become a darling to Dems now!)
    althou "they" did nail Martha Stewart!
    he has not become a darling to dems now. he was always seen as the buffoon puppet to the Cheney regime. everyone always believed, and still believe to my knowledge, that Cheney was responsible for the decision to invade the mid east after 9/11. 
    Im going by this piece

    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/357109-poll-dems-have-favorable-view-of-george-w-bush


    The poll came after Bush's remarks on Trump. Human nature is to over weight recent memory.  Plus lots of Millennials were not adults in 2008. Last... yeah now we all know it could be a lot worse than Bush... because it is. 

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  • dignin
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    Russia probe could derail Trump nominee for top Agriculture post



    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/sam-clovis-department-of-agriculture/index.html?adkey=bn
  • dignin
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    This is an interesting resource to find out where some here get their daily talking points.



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  • JC29856
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    dignin said:

    This is an interesting resource to find out where some here get their daily talking points.



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    I dont see shawn henry on there?

  • JC29856
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    127 million Facebook dupes, some right here on this forum. Amazing. If only Hillary had thought of it. Where’s Al Gore when you need him?
    The $1,500 worth of facebook ads that flipped the election to Trump and forever changed the course of American history!

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/social-media-ads-russia-wanted-americans-to-see-244423

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    127 million Facebook dupes, some right here on this forum. Amazing. If only Hillary had thought of it. Where’s Al Gore when you need him?
    The $1,500 worth of facebook ads that flipped the election to Trump and forever changed the course of American history!

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/social-media-ads-russia-wanted-americans-to-see-244423

    You seem proud of this accomplishment. Are you proud?
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