Canadian Politics Redux

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    I hope the rest of the provinces get on board with this fast.  I think it's great.  Off the top of my head I believe it is only Alberta and New Brunswick that have his so far.  

  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I hope the rest of the provinces get on board with this fast.  I think it's great.  Off the top of my head I believe it is only Alberta and New Brunswick that have his so far.  

    Quebec has said that they will be doing also in the fall.  I can see this being extended to all the provinces. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    oftenreading said:
    Thoughts on this?

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/horgan-hosting-500-a-head-golf-fundraiser-at-bear-mountain-weaver-teed-off-1.21607150

    Is it unrealistic to expect the NDP to forgo "existing rules" fundraisers before the law is changed (assuming it actually does get changed....) or should this have been an important "start as you mean to go on" situation? I tend to think the latter. And are they so strapped for cash that they really need the extra $20,000 now despite the bad press that this brings?

    I don't personally have an issue with a $100 - $500 golf fundraiser in the first place, so I don't feel invested in this issue. However, I think it's pretty dumb to criticize something and then go ahead and do it. I don't really get the thinking behind that, but I'm imagining that Horgan's advisers campaign managers pushed for this, and for some reason Horgan didn't put his foot down about it. He should have. Oh well. I can't say I give a shit either way about piddling donations like $500 golf fundraiser stuff. I care about massive corporate donations that tie into political lobbying.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    fife said:
    Looks like Ontario will be giving women free access to abortion bill starting Aug. 10.

    Very happy about this.  woman will still need to have a valid health card and a prescription.
    Did you mean free access to the abortion pill (as opposed to the morning after pill)? I.e. without a prescription or CareCard? Just go pick it up at the pharmacy, over the counter? If so, that is a good idea. Women shouldn't have to go to a doctor about this if it's not necessary to for health reasons.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJ_Soul said:
    fife said:
    Looks like Ontario will be giving women free access to abortion bill starting Aug. 10.

    Very happy about this.  woman will still need to have a valid health card and a prescription.
    Did you mean free access to the abortion pill (as opposed to the morning after pill)? I.e. without a prescription or CareCard? Just go pick it up at the pharmacy, over the counter? If so, that is a good idea. Women shouldn't have to go to a doctor about this if it's not necessary to for health reasons.
    My understanding is that the woman will still need a medical assessment and prescription, but then the medication will be provided for free. I think the assessment piece is important as there are medical contraindications to the use of the medication and follow up should be arranged to ensure that the abortion is complete. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    fife said:
    Looks like Ontario will be giving women free access to abortion bill starting Aug. 10.

    Very happy about this.  woman will still need to have a valid health card and a prescription.
    Did you mean free access to the abortion pill (as opposed to the morning after pill)? I.e. without a prescription or CareCard? Just go pick it up at the pharmacy, over the counter? If so, that is a good idea. Women shouldn't have to go to a doctor about this if it's not necessary to for health reasons.
    My understanding is that the woman will still need a medical assessment and prescription, but then the medication will be provided for free. I think the assessment piece is important as there are medical contraindications to the use of the medication and follow up should be arranged to ensure that the abortion is complete. 
    Oh, I misread fife's post. I thought it said women WON'T need to have the card and a prescription. From that I just assumed that if they were willing to do that, it must be safe. But they aren't so it isn't, lol. Anyway, great. It's right that it should be free. If a regular abortion is free, then the abortion pill should be too.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,596
    edited August 2017
    I think JT is doing a great job so far. there's a few things that have surprised/disappointed me. But he's actually doing better than I thought he would. 
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think JT is doing a great job so far. I'm disappointed that he reversed his position on election reform since it no longer will benefit him, but so far that's my only real criticism of him. He's actually doing better than I thought he would. 
    I agree.

    Our neighbours have managed to set the bar real low... so, in comparison, we could have Peter Griffin as our Prime Minister and feel pretty damn good about it. As it stands however, we are doing well!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,596
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think JT is doing a great job so far. I'm disappointed that he reversed his position on election reform since it no longer will benefit him, but so far that's my only real criticism of him. He's actually doing better than I thought he would. 
    I agree.

    Our neighbours have managed to set the bar real low... so, in comparison, we could have Peter Griffin as our Prime Minister and feel pretty damn good about it. As it stands however, we are doing well!
    I edited my post because, after reading darth's post, it reminded me of more than just the one criticism I had of him. But by and large, I think he's still holding strong. 

    and yes, compared to Trump, a pig would do a phenomenal job, but I think JT is doing a good job even without that comparison. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Sentence seems appropriate, though perhaps some will still call it too lax and complain about lattes and such.

    75 years without parole eligibility for the triple murder.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/09/derek-saretzky-alberta-triple-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-pr_a_23072483/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    oftenreading said:
    Sentence seems appropriate, though perhaps some will still call it too lax and complain about lattes and such.

    75 years without parole eligibility for the triple murder.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/09/derek-saretzky-alberta-triple-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-pr_a_23072483/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

    You were likely directing that at me.

    75 years without parole meets minimum standards for me (it is not what he deserves... but it's the harshest he could possibly receive from a country that typically thinks a harsh sentence is denying Tim Hortons to anyone that murders multiple people (let alone children). 

    It's still too good for the scumbag: "The little girl was taken from her crib to a campsite, which was partially owned by Saretzky's family, where he choked her to death with a shoelace. He said "a little prayer'' over the girl before he drank her blood, ate part of her heart and burned her body in a firepit."

    Yah. He should die. 
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,596
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    oftenreading said:
    Sentence seems appropriate, though perhaps some will still call it too lax and complain about lattes and such.

    75 years without parole eligibility for the triple murder.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/09/derek-saretzky-alberta-triple-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-pr_a_23072483/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

    You were likely directing that at me.

    75 years without parole meets minimum standards for me (it is not what he deserves... but it's the harshest he could possibly receive from a country that typically thinks a harsh sentence is denying Tim Hortons to anyone that murders multiple people (let alone children). 

    It's still too good for the scumbag: "The little girl was taken from her crib to a campsite, which was partially owned by Saretzky's family, where he choked her to death with a shoelace. He said "a little prayer'' over the girl before he drank her blood, ate part of her heart and burned her body in a firepit."

    Yah. He should die. 
    I always look forward to my daily dose of thirty bills hyperbole! LOL
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    oftenreading said:
    Sentence seems appropriate, though perhaps some will still call it too lax and complain about lattes and such.

    75 years without parole eligibility for the triple murder.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/09/derek-saretzky-alberta-triple-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-pr_a_23072483/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

    You were likely directing that at me.

    75 years without parole meets minimum standards for me (it is not what he deserves... but it's the harshest he could possibly receive from a country that typically thinks a harsh sentence is denying Tim Hortons to anyone that murders multiple people (let alone children). 

    It's still too good for the scumbag: "The little girl was taken from her crib to a campsite, which was partially owned by Saretzky's family, where he choked her to death with a shoelace. He said "a little prayer'' over the girl before he drank her blood, ate part of her heart and burned her body in a firepit."

    Yah. He should die. 
    I always look forward to my daily dose of thirty bills hyperbole! LOL
    Lol

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Refreshing change of pace than all that stuff going on down south.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/20/trudeau-marches-in-montreal-pride-with-irelands-1st-openly-gay_a_23155132/

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    This is the second article I've read in two days about The Rebel, which I had not previously heard of. Apparently our Breitbart, which goes a little way to answering a question posed earlier on this thread or the prior one about who is Canada's alt-right.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-did-it-take-so-long-for-the-conservatives-to-denounce-the-rebel/article36088082/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited August 2017
    oftenreading said:
    This is the second article I've read in two days about The Rebel, which I had not previously heard of. Apparently our Breitbart, which goes a little way to answering a question posed earlier on this thread or the prior one about who is Canada's alt-right.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-did-it-take-so-long-for-the-conservatives-to-denounce-the-rebel/article36088082/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

    I have never heard of The Rebel either... I find it disturbing that it seems like many Conservatives are defaulting to this kind of shit and, indeed, forming some kind of Canadian alt-right movement. To me this seems like a REALLY immature way to deal with the fact that Canada seems to be leaning left now. Immature, and dangerous. I feel like a lot of it is fueled by racism/xenophobia, and we all know that that kind of focus devolves quickly. We don't need any more of that shit here than we already have. Also, I just find it pathetic. These are the same people who troll social media threads, ready to bash the PM for literally every little move he makes. I.e., photo of the PM on vacation or taking some free time? Photo of PM smiling? Photo of PM at a Pride Parade? Statement from the PM about visiting the wildfire zones? Statement from PM about inclusiveness after some hate crime? All warrant automatic FURY from the right, and somehow such things are leading to the complete destruction of the nation. :lol: Ridiculous, but worrying at the same time. We all have a shining example of what happens when enough idiots get this kind of thinking stuck in their slow-witted brains.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Quebec being Quebec, they're always going to be touchy about the language, and I understand (even if I don't completely agree with) their requirement that francophone children go to francophone schools. I had no idea that they try to forbid students from choosing English schooling once they are at the college or CEGEP stage, though.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/controversy-in-quebec-as-more-french-students-choose-english-college-1.22571085

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    While I'm at it.....

    This one related more to Canadian politics, or at least BC politics. Apparently the BC Liberals are mightily pissed that one of their own took the position as Speaker, effectively removing another vote from their side.

    With the balance that tight, it was always going to be a tough decision, but I really think they could have behaved with a bit more grace. Someone needed to step up and be Speaker. They claim it's because he wasn't up front about it, and who knows, maybe he wasn't, but I can understand why he wouldn't be, ahead of the announcement. He would have been innundated.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/mla-darryl-plecas-shocks-liberals-by-taking-job-as-speaker-1.22551419

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited September 2017
    oftenreading said:
    While I'm at it.....

    This one related more to Canadian politics, or at least BC politics. Apparently the BC Liberals are mightily pissed that one of their own took the position as Speaker, effectively removing another vote from their side.

    With the balance that tight, it was always going to be a tough decision, but I really think they could have behaved with a bit more grace. Someone needed to step up and be Speaker. They claim it's because he wasn't up front about it, and who knows, maybe he wasn't, but I can understand why he wouldn't be, ahead of the announcement. He would have been innundated.

    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/mla-darryl-plecas-shocks-liberals-by-taking-job-as-speaker-1.22551419

    Is just BC Liberal sour grapes IMO. Obviously they were hoping some NDP MLA would do it so that the balance of power would work in their favour, obviously. When that didn't work out they decided to focus all their blamey feelings at Plecas, who I assume just did this for his own more personal reasons more than anything else, but also perhaps is acknowledging that his Lib party shit the bed, so he is just going to move forward from that. I'm trying to think about how I'd feel if I were (god forbid) a BC Liberal supporter.... would I be pissed off about how things have gone in this epic saga? .... It's really hard to imagine supporting that party after all these years of bullshit. But I think more of my accusations would be directed at fucking Christy Clark. She's the one who ruined the party, not Plecas. Seems like Plecas knew it too.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited September 2017
    Perhaps this is an indication of government inefficiency: I just got a purchase order from the Saskatchewan Legislative Library.... and they faxed it. :confused: They were lucky we even still have an operating fax machine... I'm not sure why we do - apparently it's the first fax we've received in over a year, lol.
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