Russia's Influence On The American Election

mrussel1 · August 2017

And if Stone thinks this is how WWI started, he's much stupider than the intelligence agencies towards which he points his dumbass finger.

brianlux · August 2017

mrussel1 said:

And if Stone thinks this is how WWI started, he's much stupider than the intelligence agencies towards which he points his dumbass finger.

Well, Ed did say "It's Stones Fault".

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

A well deserved vacation, I guess. And who the fuck takes a 17 day vacation to a NJ golf club? Oh yea, right. 755.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/putin-vacation-siberia/index.html

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

I think there's one maybe two, possibly three or four on here.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russian-trolls-hilary-clinton-fake-news-election-democrat-mark-warner-intelligence-committee-a7657641.html?amp

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8gfD134ED54

JC29856 · August 2017

I'm inclined to believe that Putin knows what happens to leaders that challenge the US dollar.

http://theantimedia.org/russia-us-sanctions-dumping-dollar/amp/

“We will of course intensify work related to import substitution, reduction of dependence on U.S. payment systems, on the dollar as a settling currency and so on. It is becoming a vital need,” said Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov on Monday, as cited by RIA.

“(Otherwise) we will always sit on their hook, exactly what they need,”

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2017

Crap like this is exactly why nothingburgers exist. What a hard read.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-curious-case-of-nicole-mincey-the-trump-fan-who-may-actually-be-a-russian-bot/2017/08/07/7aa67410-7b96-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.104ce05cd099

tbergs · August 2017

This ex CIA isn't so sure collusion exists. I agree with some of what he says. I don't think Trump was an active participant, more of a pawn. I still highly doubt there is a ptape.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/08/542106975/cover-lifted-a-cia-spy-offers-his-take-on-trump-and-russia

mrussel1 · August 2017

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Crap like this is exactly why nothingburgers exist. What a hard read.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-curious-case-of-nicole-mincey-the-trump-fan-who-may-actually-be-a-russian-bot/2017/08/07/7aa67410-7b96-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.104ce05cd099

Do you think this feels like a "nothingburger" to Manafort? Do federal agents raid your home very often?

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/345870-fbi-agents-raided-manaforts-home-in-july

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Crap like this is exactly why nothingburgers exist. What a hard read.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-curious-case-of-nicole-mincey-the-trump-fan-who-may-actually-be-a-russian-bot/2017/08/07/7aa67410-7b96-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.104ce05cd099

Do you think this feels like a "nothingburger" to Manafort? Do federal agents raid your home very often?

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/345870-fbi-agents-raided-manaforts-home-in-july

Why else all of the recent hyperactivity of 3D? The circle is getting closer and closer to that big, fat, orange dot.

JC29856 · August 2017

vaggar99 said:

bbbbbbbbbbut.....her emails! Benghazi! Fast and Furious!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/08/09/judge-orders-searches-for-clinton-benghazi-emails-241470

once you blow a gazillion dollars on a failed election all your past transgressions are absolved

Nine months after the presidential election was decided, a federal judge is ordering the State Department to try again to find emails Hillary Clinton wrote about the Benghazi attack.

U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta ruled that the State Department had not done enough to try to track down messages Clinton may have sent about the assault on the U.S. diplomatic compound on Sept. 11, 2012 — an attack that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya.

JC29856 · August 2017

chompsky has news for us Americans, we were laughed at and ridiculed long before trump took office

Chomsky, the author of more than 100 books, said, "It’s a pretty remarkable fact that -- first of all, it is a joke. Half the world is cracking up in laughter. The United States doesn’t just interfere in elections. It overthrows governments it doesn’t like, institutes military dictatorships."

"Simply in the case of Russia alone—it’s the least of it—the U.S. government, under Clinton, intervened quite blatantly and openly, then tried to conceal it, to get their man Yeltsin in, in all sorts of ways," said Chomsky. "So, this, as I say, it’s considered—it’s turning the United States, again, into a laughingstock in the world."

“So why are the Democrats focusing on this?" he said. "In fact, why are they focusing so much attention on the one element of Trump’s programs which is fairly reasonable, the one ray of light in this gloom: trying to reduce tensions with Russia? That’s—the tensions on the Russian border are extremely serious. They could escalate to a major terminal war. Efforts to try to reduce them should be welcomed."

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

JC29856 said:

chompsky has news for us Americans, we were laughed at and ridiculed long before trump took office

Chomsky, the author of more than 100 books, said, "It’s a pretty remarkable fact that -- first of all, it is a joke. Half the world is cracking up in laughter. The United States doesn’t just interfere in elections. It overthrows governments it doesn’t like, institutes military dictatorships."
"Simply in the case of Russia alone—it’s the least of it—the U.S. government, under Clinton, intervened quite blatantly and openly, then tried to conceal it, to get their man Yeltsin in, in all sorts of ways," said Chomsky. "So, this, as I say, it’s considered—it’s turning the United States, again, into a laughingstock in the world."
“So why are the Democrats focusing on this?" he said. "In fact, why are they focusing so much attention on the one element of Trump’s programs which is fairly reasonable, the one ray of light in this gloom: trying to reduce tensions with Russia? That’s—the tensions on the Russian border are extremely serious. They could escalate to a major terminal war. Efforts to try to reduce them should be welcomed."

Uh, it was a republican congress that passed the sanctions bill. Why no hate for republicans?

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

Wasn't it a republican that said, "we're all crimeans now?"

PJ_Soul · August 2017

Halifax2TheMax said:

Kelly Ann looks worn and exhausted, as well as shrill. That she represents the White House? We deserve everything that happens to us. I particularly like how she looks off camera for the unrelated topic of the day to change the narrative. I wonder if it's Spicey or Rove she turns her lonely eyes toward?

Am I the only one who has noticed this? Uncanny.

Image: http://images.dailykos.com/images/323588/story_image/GettyImages-621088886.jpg?1478539231

JC29856 · August 2017

traction

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/articles/2017-08-10/why-some-u-s-ex-spies-don-t-buy-the-russia-story

In 2003, when a number of former intelligence professionals formed a group to protest the way intelligence was bent to accuse Iraq of producing weapons of mass destruction, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote a sympathetic column quoting the group's members. In 2017, you won't read about this same group's latest campaign in the big U.S. newspapers.

JC29856 · August 2017

One curious thing throughout this anti-Russia hysteria is the use of the word “fact.” American politicians and media emphatically pound into the public the FACT that Russian meddled in the American elections. Facts are interesting critters, aren’t they? The last time I checked, they are always accompanied by evidence, so it’s curious that one often hears the word “fact” but rarely hears anything about “evidence,” and the corporate media rarely even questions these so-called “facts” to ask for evidence. You’d think it would be common sense to merely ask for the evidence to support the facts, and the rare occasion a reporter does naively stumble upon this question, the answer is always the same: “Yes, we have evidence, but it’s ‘classified.’” How many times have you heard that song and dance? It seems to me that “classified” has become just another form of censorship; in reality, the American people and the world at large are on a “need to know” basis. Big Brother tells us what they want us to know, faithfully echoed in the lapdog media, and what they don’t want us to know is “classified.” How convenient in the land of a “free” democratic society.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/10/the-american-anti-russia-hysteria-and-sanctions-bill/

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

JC29856 said:

One curious thing throughout this anti-Russia hysteria is the use of the word “fact.” American politicians and media emphatically pound into the public the FACT that Russian meddled in the American elections. Facts are interesting critters, aren’t they? The last time I checked, they are always accompanied by evidence, so it’s curious that one often hears the word “fact” but rarely hears anything about “evidence,” and the corporate media rarely even questions these so-called “facts” to ask for evidence. You’d think it would be common sense to merely ask for the evidence to support the facts, and the rare occasion a reporter does naively stumble upon this question, the answer is always the same: “Yes, we have evidence, but it’s ‘classified.’” How many times have you heard that song and dance? It seems to me that “classified” has become just another form of censorship; in reality, the American people and the world at large are on a “need to know” basis. Big Brother tells us what they want us to know, faithfully echoed in the lapdog media, and what they don’t want us to know is “classified.” How convenient in the land of a “free” democratic society.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/10/the-american-anti-russia-hysteria-and-sanctions-bill/

Fact: Mueller's investigation is proceeding. Fact, Trump is ratcheting up the bellicose language regarding NK. Fact, 755 US diplomats are expelled from Russia and Trump has not made any public statements nor comments. Fact, 3D is busy.

Halifax2TheMax · August 2017

And I guess the Republican controlled congress and members of the various investigative committees are hysterics?

mrussel1 · August 2017

JC29856 said:

One curious thing throughout this anti-Russia hysteria is the use of the word “fact.” American politicians and media emphatically pound into the public the FACT that Russian meddled in the American elections. Facts are interesting critters, aren’t they? The last time I checked, they are always accompanied by evidence, so it’s curious that one often hears the word “fact” but rarely hears anything about “evidence,” and the corporate media rarely even questions these so-called “facts” to ask for evidence. You’d think it would be common sense to merely ask for the evidence to support the facts, and the rare occasion a reporter does naively stumble upon this question, the answer is always the same: “Yes, we have evidence, but it’s ‘classified.’” How many times have you heard that song and dance? It seems to me that “classified” has become just another form of censorship; in reality, the American people and the world at large are on a “need to know” basis. Big Brother tells us what they want us to know, faithfully echoed in the lapdog media, and what they don’t want us to know is “classified.” How convenient in the land of a “free” democratic society.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/10/the-american-anti-russia-hysteria-and-sanctions-bill/

Fact, Adam Schiff, Mark Warner and the rest of the Democratic leadership, Obama, Obama's security team and all national security persons with access to the top secret data are all on the same page. Just because your ass hasn't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Because it's top secret, you can either choose to believe the evidence exists by believing the leaders you think are trustworthy, or you can disbelief because you think Trump and his family of cronies are trustworthy. Until it's de-classified, these are your choices. No matter how many posts you write or articles you read that say the same thing, it's still classified.

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