Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,163
    dignin said:
    Trump team met with lawyer linked to Kremlin during campaign.

    Story. Still. Going. Away.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html
    Brilliant brilliance brilliantly on display.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Follow the money, from Russia with love and demand to see the PTAPE, all the way to impeachment.

    Oh no, it's totally outside the realm of possibilities that a Trump PTAPE exists, said no one ever.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,163
    What disappearing headlines look like 


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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    "1. We never met with the Russians, it's all hoax

    2. We met but we forgot about it 

    3. We met but it was about adoption

    4. IT WAS A SET UP"
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited July 2017
    There's absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing or attempted cover up you guys. 

    "Flynn: Met w/Russians; lied
    Page: Met w/Russians; lied
    Sessions: Met w/Russians; lied
    Kushner: Met w/Russians; lied
    Donald Trump Jr: Met w/Russians; lied"

    This story is totally going away soon you guys. 

    Edit: yup..... the Russia story is officially over, Cory Lewandoski sez so:  

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/884050465608130561
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "cut it out"
    "that's behind us"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Merkin Baller said:
    There's absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing or attempted cover up you guys. 

    "Flynn: Met w/Russians; lied
    Page: Met w/Russians; lied
    Sessions: Met w/Russians; lied
    Kushner: Met w/Russians; lied
    Donald Trump Jr: Met w/Russians; lied"

    This story is totally going away soon you guys. 

    Edit: yup..... the Russia story is officially over, Cory Lewandoski sez so:  

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/884050465608130561
    Donald Trump "believes" Putin as it relates to his statements about the Russian hacking.  They are moving past it...  

    The whole Putin meeting was pathetic.  No demands were made on them regarding Ukraine.  Trump went in without any demands or strategy so far as we can tell.  Worse, the Russians beat the Americans to the press releases, allowing them to shape the story.  Fucking amateur hour yet again.  Lindsey Graham's quote is funny.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/fmr-cia-director-brennan-says-trump-ceded-ground-putin-meeting-n781086
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    "cut it out"
    "that's behind us"
    "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,787
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    brianlux said:
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
    Yup, the problem is 100% with the people. We don't hold our politicians or media accountable, apathy has become the American way. 

    That doesnt mean this current admin admin isn't a bunch of treasonous bastards. 

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,787
    Merkin Baller said:
    brianlux said:
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
    Yup, the problem is 100% with the people. We don't hold our politicians or media accountable, apathy has become the American way. 

    That doesnt mean this current admin admin isn't a bunch of treasonous bastards. 

    Exactly, Merkin!
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    JC29856 said:
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
    Exactly. It's totally the girl's fault she got raped. When you're wearing a skirt like that, you're practically begging for it. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    ledvedderman said:
    JC29856 said:
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
    Exactly. It's totally the girl's fault she got raped. When you're wearing a skirt like that, you're practically begging for it. 
    really? serious?
    you're actually comparing rape to online phishing scams and silly passwords.
    you may want to reconsider your post. please...
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Nope. I stand by my comment 100%. You're doing a form of blaming the victim for what happened to them- and I'm pointing out that your point is ridiculous. 
    Hacking political opponents and state election databases isn't your run of the mill phishing and hacking. Especially when done by a known enemy of our country. 
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    There was nothing then and there is nothing now folks, especially after the last G20.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-putin-russian-hacking-election-tillerson-2017-7
    Asked by NBC's Hallie Jackson if he could "definitively say that Russia interfered" in the 2016 presidential election, which multiple US intelligence agencies have concluded, Trump said "I've said it very simply," Trump said. "I think it could very well have been Russia. But I think it could well have been other countries. I won't be specific. But I think a lot of people interfere. I think it's been happening for a long time. It's been happening for many, many years."

  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    ledvedderman said:
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
    you can argue victim blaming but it's very very insensitive to label it rape victim blaming...ok let's move on. any explanation why the 3 intelligence agency's don't hold the same level of confidence in pinning it on Russia Russia Russia?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    ledvedderman said:
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
    Even the Trump appointed UN ambassador Nikki Haley says "Everybody knows" Russia meddled in our election (http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/un-ambassador-haley-everybody-knows-russia-meddled-in-election )

    Today we had Trump Jr admit to taking a meeting w/ a Russian attorney last summer  because she supposedly had damaging info on Clinton. He bailed on the meeting when he realized she had no info on the DNC. 

    Wow. 

    This story is DEFINITELY going away soon.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    Crowdstrikes(s)
    1. sony hack - wrong and retracked
    2. Ukraine hack - wrong and retracted
    3. DNC servers - partially retracted

    Nikki Haley? she can't wait to send your kids to war, any war!
    Russia Russia Russia, North Korea or any of the 8 countries we've bombed 100,000 times over the last 8.5 years.
    Here's free advice for progressives:
    1. never quote Nikki Haley
    2. pay more attention Tulsi Gabbard
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