ESPN 30 for 30 Celtics/Lakers Rivalry
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agree. Loved the Len Bias one, Once Brothers was fantastic but so sad, Requiem for the Big East, I hate Christian Laettner and the One and Not Done were great too . Those were my favorite basketball ones. One not listed that was good was Unguarded about Chris Herren and his drug struggles.HesCalledDyer said:
The basketball 30-for-30s always seem to be the best ones:markymark550 said:Finally got to watch all of it yesterday. I think it is one of the better documentaries in the 30 for 30 series. That 84 Finals was epic. I would love to just go watch that whole series. So many great players were a part of this rivalry. I'm too young to have any memories during the prime of the rivalry in the 80s, so it was great to hear all of the players tell their side of it. Definitely can't refute the claim that Magic and Larry saved the NBA.
My one complaint is the same as most of what's been said and that's the narrators. I get wanting to present an unbiased account of it all, but that could have easily been accomplished without Ice Cube and Wahlberg.
Without Bias
Winning Time
The Guru of Go
No Crossover
Once Brothers (my personal favorite)
There's No Place Like Home
Benji
Survive and Advance
Free Spirits
Bernie and Ernie
Requiem for the Big East
Bad Boys
Playing for the Mob
When the Garden was Eden
I Hate Christian Laettner
Sole Man
This Magic Moment
All excellent!! I haven't seen any since then but after those there are:
Believeland
Phi Slama Jama
One and Not Done
Celtics/Lakers
And there's a couple ESPN Films Presents:
The Fab Five
The Announcement
Non-basketball ones I thought were great: the Two Escobars ,Pony Express about SMU Football. From Elway to Marino and Big Shot about the guy lying to buy the Islanders and Catholic vs. Convicts.
Maybe the best one of all though was the Fantastic Lies about the Duke Lacrosse rape trial.0 -
Pony Excess was a really good one. CJK5Hpjhawks said:
agree. Loved the Len Bias one, Once Brothers was fantastic but so sad, Requiem for the Big East, I hate Christian Laettner and the One and Not Done were great too . Those were my favorite basketball ones. One not listed that was good was Unguarded about Chris Herren and his drug struggles.HesCalledDyer said:
The basketball 30-for-30s always seem to be the best ones:markymark550 said:Finally got to watch all of it yesterday. I think it is one of the better documentaries in the 30 for 30 series. That 84 Finals was epic. I would love to just go watch that whole series. So many great players were a part of this rivalry. I'm too young to have any memories during the prime of the rivalry in the 80s, so it was great to hear all of the players tell their side of it. Definitely can't refute the claim that Magic and Larry saved the NBA.
My one complaint is the same as most of what's been said and that's the narrators. I get wanting to present an unbiased account of it all, but that could have easily been accomplished without Ice Cube and Wahlberg.
Without Bias
Winning Time
The Guru of Go
No Crossover
Once Brothers (my personal favorite)
There's No Place Like Home
Benji
Survive and Advance
Free Spirits
Bernie and Ernie
Requiem for the Big East
Bad Boys
Playing for the Mob
When the Garden was Eden
I Hate Christian Laettner
Sole Man
This Magic Moment
All excellent!! I haven't seen any since then but after those there are:
Believeland
Phi Slama Jama
One and Not Done
Celtics/Lakers
And there's a couple ESPN Films Presents:
The Fab Five
The Announcement
Non-basketball ones I thought were great: the Two Escobars ,Pony Express about SMU Football. From Elway to Marino and Big Shot about the guy lying to buy the Islanders and Catholic vs. Convicts.
Maybe the best one of all though was the Fantastic Lies about the Duke Lacrosse rape trial.
Duke lacrosse one was good, but also sad and infuriating.0 -
Yeah the Chris Herren one was really good as well. I knew I was forgetting at least one.pjhawks said:agree. Loved the Len Bias one, Once Brothers was fantastic but so sad, Requiem for the Big East, I hate Christian Laettner and the One and Not Done were great too . Those were my favorite basketball ones. One not listed that was good was Unguarded about Chris Herren and his drug struggles.
Non-basketball ones I thought were great: the Two Escobars ,Pony Express about SMU Football. From Elway to Marino and Big Shot about the guy lying to buy the Islanders and Catholic vs. Convicts.
Maybe the best one of all though was the Fantastic Lies about the Duke Lacrosse rape trial.
Some of my favorite non-bball ones are Into the Wind about Terry Fox (quite the tearjerker!), Small Potatoes about Donald Trump killing the USFL, The U & The U Part 2 (despite me being a Noles fan, these are great), Rand University about Randy Moss growing up in small town West Virginia, Slaying the Badger about Greg LeMond & Bernard Hinault in the Tour de France, Fernando Nation, Pony Excess, and The Birth of Big Air about Mat Hoffman & BMX. And of course, the ESPN Films Presents Catching Hell, about the Cubs and Steve Bartman and scapegoating in sports.
I haven't seen Fantastic Lies yet... I'll have to add it to the list.
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Good call with Catching Hell. Really enjoyed that one too.0
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It was an issue existed it's just that it wasn't an issue to me. I focused more on the style of play more so than the race make up the team. Naturally I loved the way the Celtics played compared to the showtime flash of the Lakers.The Juggler said:I'm surprised to see so many people claim to not remember race playing even a little factor in that rivalry. I was very young, but it was pretty obvious to me that there was one team primarily black and one team primarily white. I hate the Celtics so I rooted for the Lakers anyway. Race doesn't matter to me. But to pretend it wasn't an issue for other people is kind of foolish.
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They did one on Matt Hoffman? I need to see that!HesCalledDyer said:
Yeah the Chris Herren one was really good as well. I knew I was forgetting at least one.pjhawks said:agree. Loved the Len Bias one, Once Brothers was fantastic but so sad, Requiem for the Big East, I hate Christian Laettner and the One and Not Done were great too . Those were my favorite basketball ones. One not listed that was good was Unguarded about Chris Herren and his drug struggles.
Non-basketball ones I thought were great: the Two Escobars ,Pony Express about SMU Football. From Elway to Marino and Big Shot about the guy lying to buy the Islanders and Catholic vs. Convicts.
Maybe the best one of all though was the Fantastic Lies about the Duke Lacrosse rape trial.
Some of my favorite non-bball ones are Into the Wind about Terry Fox (quite the tearjerker!), Small Potatoes about Donald Trump killing the USFL, The U & The U Part 2 (despite me being a Noles fan, these are great), Rand University about Randy Moss growing up in small town West Virginia, Slaying the Badger about Greg LeMond & Bernard Hinault in the Tour de France, Fernando Nation, Pony Excess, and The Birth of Big Air about Mat Hoffman & BMX. And of course, the ESPN Films Presents Catching Hell, about the Cubs and Steve Bartman and scapegoating in sports.
I haven't seen Fantastic Lies yet... I'll have to add it to the list.0
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