Live Nation secretly flies Eddie Vedder to Cannes Lions
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riley540 said:Is ed too cool for the rest of the band now, or something
I'm just as confused about this.
How in the world does anyone print that Eddie Vedder was the lead singer of Pearl Jam?
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kellyslater Amongst 200 people at a private estate on a hillside above the French Riviera listening to #EddieVedder and #GlenHansard just after sunset on the #SummerSolstice2017 is a pretty good way to spend an evening, I'd say. Sounds more like a hypothetical (and a run-on sentence) than my past few hours. We were supposed to go see #ChakaKhan just before that but I think that would've officially been overload. Thanks, gentlemen. #ShakaCannes!
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kevinmazur Amazing secret #EddieVedder show by Citi/Live Nation at a private mansion in Cannes during #CannesLions #PearlJam @gettyentertainment
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Hahahahahaha!demetrios said:Melbourne #1 '98
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ryph raph said:
Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
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This. A man who soon forgets?
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According to Pearl Jam Online:BudT said:Setlist?
Setlist: Trouble (Cat Stevens), Small Town, I Am Mine, Society (Jerry Hannan, w/ Glen Hansard), Soon Forget, Can’t Keep, Rise, Should I Stay or Should I Go? (The Clash), Falling Slowly (Glen Hansard/ Markéta Irglová, w/ Glen Hansard), Song of Good Hope (Glen Hansard, w/ Glen Hansard), Porch
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A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
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This. A man who soon forgets?
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Cool?6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/160
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JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.
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I was typing up a response, but you pretty much hit all the parts I was struggling with about this as well.BrokenGlass said:JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
BrokenGlass - I get where you are coming from. THey have definitely changed over the years. Not in a bad way though, but their views have softened a little. Perhaps we don't see all the charitable things these rich folks do and Ed does. I don't know. Anyway, the point of my post is that I've stopped collecting PJ stuff and wanting to frame every poster and wear PJ shirts all the time mainly because they have softened their positions so much. I love the music still, and time certainly plays a factor, but I love a lot of bands and don't buy their t-shirts. I wore PJ shirts and collected their records and stickers but they had great music and were willing to stand up for music over profits. I still think they are incredibly nice and generous people, but it isn't the old days.
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good postBrokenGlass said:JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.
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And this shouldn't turn into a bash Eddie thread. If the worst thing he ever does was play a concert for friends than he is doing pretty darn good. It is true though that there is a stark difference between 1992-2003 PJ and 2017 PJ.Post edited by bootlegger10 on0
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No, I'm not mistaken at all. Times change, circumstances change, people change, viewpoints change. Life is evolution. Ed's living his life. You are living yours. I'm living mine. I don't have the energy to be disillusioned by the choices other people make. Particularly ones I don't really know. I don't care in the least that Ed sang for Obama and sits in owner's boxes, nor is it my place to judge who he did and didn't support in the 2016 election. The Cannes show doesn't bother me at all.BrokenGlass said:JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.
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You can't fault the man for enjoying the fruits of his labor. Just because he flies private and has wealthy friends doesn't mean he's an elitist. He uses his celebrity as a platform to benefit a lot of good, charitable causes. It just so happens that a lot of the people donating to those causes have money. So what? All that said, there is something a little "off" about him getting flown around to do secret performances by Live Nation (especially knowing they merged with TM).0
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He did what he loves to do by singing and he got paid for it. Good for him.
I won't have a problem with any of his rich guy activities until the moment he plays shows but does not care about the performace or music he is performing. If he is just doing it for the money and does not enjoy his time on stage, that is when it will be annoying.Pittsburgh 2013
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As I said, it's his life to live as he sees fit. My point, however, is this: Let's try a thought experiment. Would 1995 Ed have accepted a private flight to Cannes sponsored by Live Nation to sing at a mansion for a group of 1%-ers? If not, why not? And if not, are the reasons for not doing it in 1995 any less valid than choosing not to do it in 2017? Some things never change, but people do.JimmyV said:
No, I'm not mistaken at all. Times change, circumstances change, people change, viewpoints change. Life is evolution. Ed's living his life. You are living yours. I'm living mine. I don't have the energy to be disillusioned by the choices other people make. Particularly ones I don't really know. I don't care in the least that Ed sang for Obama and sits in owner's boxes, nor is it my place to judge who he did and didn't support in the 2016 election. The Cannes show doesn't bother me at all.BrokenGlass said:JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.
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Sure, but there are plenty of things that 1995 JimmyV wouldn't have done that the 2017 version would, and there are plenty of things the 2017 version of myself wouldn't do that the 1995 version would have. I don't know you BrokenGlass but I'm willing to bet the same can be said of you.BrokenGlass said:
As I said, it's his life to live as he sees fit. My point, however, is this: Let's try a thought experiment. Would 1995 Ed have accepted a private flight to Cannes sponsored by Live Nation to sing at a mansion for a group of 1%-ers? If not, why not? And if not, are the reasons for not doing it in 1995 any less valid than choosing not to do it in 2017? Some things never change, but people do.JimmyV said:
No, I'm not mistaken at all. Times change, circumstances change, people change, viewpoints change. Life is evolution. Ed's living his life. You are living yours. I'm living mine. I don't have the energy to be disillusioned by the choices other people make. Particularly ones I don't really know. I don't care in the least that Ed sang for Obama and sits in owner's boxes, nor is it my place to judge who he did and didn't support in the 2016 election. The Cannes show doesn't bother me at all.BrokenGlass said:JimmyV said:
A man who is no more beholden in his fifties to the views he held in his twenties than you or I. I look at things differently now than I did then. Why shouldn't Ed?BrokenGlass said:ryph raph said:Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010.
THIS IS NOT FOR YOU
This. A man who soon forgets?
My friend, you are mistaken in assuming that I, like you or presumably Ed, am not beholden in my fifties to the views I held in my twenties on core beliefs like the dangers of elitism and the power of money to corrupt. There is something disturbing in watching Ed transition from the guy who fought MTV and Ticketmaster, who sang and campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000, who gleefully performed Bushleaguer, who wrote songs illuminating child and sexual abuse, mental health crises, police brutality, and youth oppression, into the guy who sings Obama out of office, sits in the owner's box at World Series games, remains on the political sidelines while Bernie Sanders is leading the most promising progressive campaign for economic, social, racial justice in a generation, and flies by private jet to a hilltop in Cannes paid for by Live Nation to sing around the campfire for an elitist gathering of a couple hundred rich folks who could afford to pay 5,215 euro plus TVA for the "all-inclusive business class experience" ( and, for a little more dough, the opportunity to "enjoy the ultimate Cannes experience and book a yacht for the week."). Ed is obviously enjoying his perks these days, and if he chooses that life, it is his to live, after all. I'm just a little disillusioned and disappointed in his choices, that's all.
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