Ten, Binaural, Riot Act & Pearl Jam LP reissues & six 7" singles
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2-feign-reluctance said:
Oh yeah, I remember a few guys trying this with posters over in Lost Dogs some years back. They stood to make much, much more than any of that stuff was 'worth'.MayDay10 said:
I look at some of them now, and I can't help but laugh. You add up the 'prizes' and include shipping and the value is nowhere near what the # of entries X entry fee. Some of them are absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, the verocity of the raffles have turned me off to the entire merch scene as a whole.JojoRice said:
Agreed!! Those fb waffles are a rip off.cp3iverson said:
Amen!pdalowsky said:
Love that these will be accessible to all, and the ebay machine can die down for a while, not to mention the waffles that want to return twice the value of a recordmaverick said:I think the reissue of the LP's is awesome. No reason they shouldn't be available for a reasonable price. I do hope next year they reissue Live on Two Legs, Lost Dogs, and RVM. That would finish it all off nicely.
Just got an update in the one raffle group. Fenway Thomas Variant has a buy it now on ebay for $760 so it is alright to raise $730 in revenue from a raffle... Its a joke. I see the same handful of people constantly fishing with these raffles. I have no doubt they obtain high-end items just to launder into more money through those raffles, on the backs of people thinking $30 for a 1/25 chance for a $400 item is somehow worth it... or they have gambling issues and are being preyed upon.0 -
not on amazon uk yet
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$34 for 50 spots sold out in minutes... $1700.BCBA said:2-feign-reluctance said:
Oh yeah, I remember a few guys trying this with posters over in Lost Dogs some years back. They stood to make much, much more than any of that stuff was 'worth'.MayDay10 said:
I look at some of them now, and I can't help but laugh. You add up the 'prizes' and include shipping and the value is nowhere near what the # of entries X entry fee. Some of them are absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, the verocity of the raffles have turned me off to the entire merch scene as a whole.JojoRice said:
Agreed!! Those fb waffles are a rip off.cp3iverson said:
Amen!pdalowsky said:
Love that these will be accessible to all, and the ebay machine can die down for a while, not to mention the waffles that want to return twice the value of a recordmaverick said:I think the reissue of the LP's is awesome. No reason they shouldn't be available for a reasonable price. I do hope next year they reissue Live on Two Legs, Lost Dogs, and RVM. That would finish it all off nicely.
Just got an update in the one raffle group. Fenway Thomas Variant has a buy it now on ebay for $760 so it is alright to raise $730 in revenue from a raffle... Its a joke. I see the same handful of people constantly fishing with these raffles. I have no doubt they obtain high-end items just to launder into more money through those raffles, on the backs of people thinking $30 for a 1/25 chance for a $400 item is somehow worth it... or they have gambling issues and are being preyed upon.
Holy shit.0 -
anyone ordered from Japan yet ? I'm considering doing now basically £88 including shipping and import tax
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What a scam. People have no idea what they're doing. It's a pyramid scheme!Mansfield 06.28.2008 | Boston 05.17.2010 | Boston 06.19.2011 EV solo | Wrigley Field 07.19.2013 | Worcester 10.15.2013 | Worcester 10.16.2013 | Hartford 10.25.2013
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Actually no. It's more of a lottery than a ponzi scheme.lotsalemon said:
What a scam. People have no idea what they're doing. It's a pyramid scheme!
2/50 chance to win a price. Big time posters too.0 -
Most of them just seem way overvaluated though and the bar keeps getting pushed farther and farther shamefully. A raffle doesnt fill and it is quickly pulled and replaced with a new attempt to fish for people. Raising like 150-200%+ of the expressobeans value. I cant figure out why anyone would spend $35 for 1 2-4% chance to win a $400 poster. The 'house' is taking way too much of a rake. If it were charity, that would be one thing. This is crossing the line to predatory. You see the same few people running 'raffle' after 'raffle'. It reeks of a racket.tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. It's more of a lottery than a ponzi scheme.lotsalemon said:tempo_n_groove said:
What a scam. People have no idea what they're doing. It's a pyramid scheme!
$34 for 50 spots sold out in minutes... $1700.
Holy shit.
2/50 chance to win a price. Big time posters too.0 -
No really, it's more like a 50/50 raffle or a lottery.lotsalemon said:
What a scam. People have no idea what they're doing. It's a pyramid scheme!
Pyramid scheme is when you take investors money and promise high rates of return, but you keep a big chunk of the money, and keep recruiting new people, and use their money to create the illusion of high return for the existing members. The minute you stop taking in new money from new people, the whole thing falls apart, because there's no real money to pay interest or return principal. The entire illusion of return is created by giving out just enough new money to fake high returns, and then you pocket the rest. It's more evil than running a lottery, and only giving out half the take. Here in Canada our government does that all the time
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I think i have all the merch i need... other than collecting the binaural and self titled reissuesPost edited by MayDay10 on0
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I'm really interested in this too. Is there any way to confirm that these presses are legit as opposed to being bootlegs like the ones that came out a few years ago? From my limited experience with Amazon, they use a lot of vendors, and I've seen bootleg PJ LPs like the Vegas and Atlanta shows on Amazon before. Is there any way to confirm these are legit? It just seems strange to me that they're going to be released at the end of June without any official word from the band. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!rock4ever said:anyone ordered from Japan yet ? I'm considering doing now basically £88 including shipping and import tax
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I've seen this before all the sites mentioned in previous posts have been taken down, so I just wonder if it is legit,? And Japan ain't following suit yet, Amazon Japan says release date 30th June and I'm due to get delivery 3/5 July. So still time to cancel if needed, also why would be a preorder if it was one of the bootlegs ?mwplum said:
I'm really interested in this too. Is there any way to confirm that these presses are legit as opposed to being bootlegs like the ones that came out a few years ago? From my limited experience with Amazon, they use a lot of vendors, and I've seen bootleg PJ LPs like the Vegas and Atlanta shows on Amazon before. Is there any way to confirm these are legit? It just seems strange to me that they're going to be released at the end of June without any official word from the band. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!rock4ever said:anyone ordered from Japan yet ? I'm considering doing now basically £88 including shipping and import tax
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At the moment only the Amazon Japan store is taking orders when every other online store who were taking pre orders in Europe have stopped or taken their pages down.
Haven't heard anything from any North American record store. Not even a official tease.0 -
These are still in my Amazon Japan order history. We'll see what happens! (I'm guessing nothing.)0
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Preorders can be made on amazon.fr
- Binaural, 18.68€
- Riot act, 18.68€
- Pearl jam, 18.68€
- Nothing as it seems, 7.45€
- World Wide Suicide, 7.45€
- Save you, 7.45€
- I am mine, 7.45€
Label = Epic or Epic/Legacy
Release date = 30/06
2012 : Amsterdam 2
2014 : Amsterdam 1&2, Milan, Berlin, Werchter
2018 : Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London 1, Berlin, Werchter, London 2
2020 : ?0 -
As always, do not trust amazon pre-orders when the band hasn't even made an announcement.0
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Raffles of all sorts have been ripoffs since forever
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A bunch of times this is how we've gotten our information before the band released it...kramer73 said:As always, do not trust amazon pre-orders when the band hasn't even made an announcement.0
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