Start another marijuana thread, please.

rgambs said:

brianlux said:

CM189191 said:

Melissa Etheridge: ‘I’d Much Rather Have a Smoke With My Grown Kids Than a Drink’

Certainly the better choice of the two.

I'm a cautious proponent of marijuana. It has it's benefits both in medical and recreation.

But even the mostly milder strains of the herb that were going around in the sixties could cause some anxiety in inexperienced smokers, especially teens and young adults and especially when under emotional duress.

In the song, "(When You're On) The Losing End" Neil young sang:

"Well, I miss you more than ever,
since you've gone
I can hardly maintain."

Back in the day (and maybe now?) the word "maintain" meant "not freaking out". Almost all weed today has a much higher concentration of THC. Give a young adult a potent joint when he or she has had an emotional experience like breaking up with someone (or worse) and that kind of high can be a really, really bad low. Been there. Not at all fun.

True statement, but it applies times ten for alcohol, so it doesn't bother me. Everyone has to find their niche, I get anxiety when I get stoned, so I don't get stoned.
I use nearly every day, often multiple times a day, but I never get past a light buzz.
I guess my point is that any intoxicant has a negative side, but the negative side of marijuana is very benign, in comparison to most others.
It's tough to walk the line, admitting negative effects at all works to the benefits of those who don't understand or refuse to admit how safe it is compared to legal intoxicants that people, including kids, already get their hands on.

Oh man, are you serious? I've seen plenty of people do stupid things while high that they wouldn't have done otherwise. I'm sure I was one of them a few times as a young man. You're telling me that saying anything regarding negative consequences "works to the benefits of those who don't understand or refuse to admit how safe it is compared to legal intoxicants that people"? That's the most irresponsible and exaggerated thing I've ever seen you post, Gambs. And why the comparison to other intoxicants? Of course it's safer than most other, but that doesn't negate any potential harmful issues. I'm not sure why you're stretching here to rebut my post/ It almost sounds like arguing just to be arguing.

I knew I should stay off this train. Waste of time.

PJ_Soul said:

What's with the title of this thread Brian? I have to admit, I am sad to see you just throw in the towel so easily these days. Suggestions of shutting down the train, and the moment any conflict arises you seem to feel the need to just shut it all down and bail. I don't get what you're dealing with so that this is now your go-to reaction, but It's a bit of a downer to see. It also has hints of censorship, which I didn't think you were into. It just seems like such a knee jerk reaction to what looks like very minor and low stress disagreement. Are you okay?? I hope you are.

The thing is, PJ_S, this used to be a great place to discuss current events and politics. For the last year or two (or more), it's basically become a place where the same few people come and argue endlessly about things, rarely listening to each other. You may have noticed that some other prominent members of this particular forums (AMT) don't show up here much if at all any more. There's probably a good reason for that which can be found in the content of AMT as it stands these days.

No, I am not in favor of censorship. My other thread did not say "Let's shut down the train". I was hoping some here would be more inclined to repair the beast rather than scrap it. But in any case, it's not my show and if people want to come here and argue endlessly and go nowhere with that, that's fine by me. I'd rather be doing something else. No big loss here, right?

Thanks for asking about my well being- I know you ask with sincerity. Other than normal aging aches and pains, physically I'm doing well enough. Personal life is good. Wife and cat doing well. But when it comes to world outlook, not good. 45 years or so of advocating change, being involved in activism, writing letters, championing the environment and then looking at where we've gotten to... I can't say more about how I feel about all that without being the downer I acknowledge you are correct in saying I am. For that I am sorry. I feel sad to think that all these years of giving a crap added up to damn near nothing. I really get depressed thinking about where the world has gone to. Yeah, it's a downer, for sure, and I'm sorry to have projected that. It's no one's problem but my own.

But enough of that. I'm really glad I came back to the Pearl Jam fan club to talk about music, life, culture, food, cats and dogs, ACTS (great idea from the mods, very positive and I hope it gets more attention!) and, of course, that great band we all love. But politics and current events? I stepped in the pool again and it felt like acid. Other than the lounge car, I just need to stay off the train! I would like to see this and any other threads I started on AMT go away so I won't be reminded.

OK! See you elsewhere in these forums where it's always good!

Not a command, just asking a favor: Please start a new marijuana thread.