If Lightning Bolt was their last album,would you be satisfied?
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During the 2000s PJ's departures have been my favorite songs.
Sleight of Hand, the Fixer, Sirens, You Are, etc. the ones where you're like wow thats PJ?? Thats very weird/poppy/etc0 -
My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0
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it wont bedanny d0
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Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
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Not a chance Lightning Bolt is their last album. One more, then I think they're done making albums. If the band stopped touring, it would suck, but I'd move on with my life.2000 - Chicago, IL
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I would not be satisfied that tons of lightning bolts and red and black apparel would be the last style of tour merch though haPittsburgh 2013
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I'd be sad for a bit but would be ok with it all being done. They would leave behind the best body of work ever. Love music too much to be completely devastatedwww.cluthelee.com0
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no. I want more. But, i get it. I get how life expands and pushes some of even your favourite things into smaller boxes in deeper closets. But man, when you bring that box out, its a ripping good time.Gern Blansten said:They seem to be too spread out now. Eddie is all over the place. Jeff lives in Montana. Matt is touring with Soundgarden.
The mix just doesn't seem to gel anymore. I'm guessing that getting together to do an album is a real chore where they try to get shit done ASAP so they can do their own thing.
I dont think this band will ever break up in the traditional sense. Theyll tour less, theyll make less music, but the magic will always be there when they do get together.
Id love an EP of punk covers or something, though.
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Sort of like The Spaghetti Incident?HughFreakingDillon said:
no. I want more. But, i get it. I get how life expands and pushes some of even your favourite things into smaller boxes in deeper closets. But man, when you bring that box out, its a ripping good time.Gern Blansten said:They seem to be too spread out now. Eddie is all over the place. Jeff lives in Montana. Matt is touring with Soundgarden.
The mix just doesn't seem to gel anymore. I'm guessing that getting together to do an album is a real chore where they try to get shit done ASAP so they can do their own thing.
I dont think this band will ever break up in the traditional sense. Theyll tour less, theyll make less music, but the magic will always be there when they do get together.
Id love an EP of punk covers or something, though.
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yep. I loved Lightning Bolt actually. They have the potential to still make incredible albums but if that's the last, I'm totally fine. If they stop touring that's completely different.Post edited by Foriginal Sin onChicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/160
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Nope/yep. Great discography, but LB is my least favorite album.0
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Yep, really..HesCalledDyer said:
Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0 -
Not even 1-5% hyperbole here?reesdog said:
Yep, really..HesCalledDyer said:
Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
So and so..but the LB is not the end..
the band has lot of things to give us yet..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
So the last 2 albums have caused you great fear and suffering?reesdog said:
Yep, really..HesCalledDyer said:
Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Yeah, I won't leave the house anymore out of fear and a deep depression has come over me from the sheer suffering of knowing these albums are in existence. Don't be a dick, it's just what people say in my part of the world when they aren't a fan of something. Personally I think a song like 'Sirens' is rock bottom for PJ, dreadful music..HesCalledDyer said:
So the last 2 albums have caused you great fear and suffering?reesdog said:
Yep, really..HesCalledDyer said:
Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
A wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom.0 -
Dreadful and not a fan are miles apart. But we can certainly agree on one thing - Sirens is awful. It's the only PJ song in the entire catalog that I always skip, album or bootleg.reesdog said:
Yeah, I won't leave the house anymore out of fear and a deep depression has come over me from the sheer suffering of knowing these albums are in existence. Don't be a dick, it's just what people say in my part of the world when they aren't a fan of something. Personally I think a song like 'Sirens' is rock bottom for PJ, dreadful music..HesCalledDyer said:
So the last 2 albums have caused you great fear and suffering?reesdog said:
Yep, really..HesCalledDyer said:
Lol @ "dreadful." Really?reesdog said:My two cents worth: A new record would be welcome, would be great if they changed things up a bit, last two records were dreadful. New producer, rawer sound, maybe just live in the studio takes like Neil Young has done in the past. Get angry, get political, love it when they do that, but seriously no more ballads please, they're an utter snoozefest..
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From your perspective, what songs were signs of greatness of the last three albums?ledvedderman said:I don't think I'd be satisfied to an extent if they quit releasing new albums. The last three albums in particular show slight signs that greatness is still in them in regards to new music. Slight. As albums, the last three have been kind of weak. So it's frustrating as a fan to see the signs of light breakthrough only to give way to a meh album. I think the band has it in them to put out another 12 song album that is amazing beginning to end.
As a recording artist, I know it's harder than it sounds. When I put out my first album I was in love with every second of every song. A couple of years later now and I think "what if I'd replaced this song with another" or "this is bad". Of the 12 songs on it, 7 or 8 are still strong to me. I was just trying to please myself with this record, not thousands of fans. So I totally feel for the band.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I'm satisfied with what they've given I like to see them tour but even that seems to be a chore for them it's not like they tour every yr , i never go back and listen to their catalog at all I'd rather catch a show !jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Oh damn! Being put on the spot. Life Wasted, Marker in the Sand, Army Reserve, Got Some, Speed of Sound (lyrically), Force of Nature, Getaway, Infallible, and Pendulum.mcgruff10 said:
From your perspective, what songs were signs of greatness of the last three albums?ledvedderman said:I don't think I'd be satisfied to an extent if they quit releasing new albums. The last three albums in particular show slight signs that greatness is still in them in regards to new music. Slight. As albums, the last three have been kind of weak. So it's frustrating as a fan to see the signs of light breakthrough only to give way to a meh album. I think the band has it in them to put out another 12 song album that is amazing beginning to end.
As a recording artist, I know it's harder than it sounds. When I put out my first album I was in love with every second of every song. A couple of years later now and I think "what if I'd replaced this song with another" or "this is bad". Of the 12 songs on it, 7 or 8 are still strong to me. I was just trying to please myself with this record, not thousands of fans. So I totally feel for the band.
That's off the top of my head without much thought...so be kind, man. Lol
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