Syria and the US's Motive

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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,460

    Who's everyone?
    from what I've read, he has received a lot of bi-partisan support and also from most allied nations.
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    from what I've read, he has received a lot of bi-partisan support and also from most allied nations.
    Trump ordering the launching of 59 cruise missiles on a basically empty airbase, that was up and running within 36 hours, was the equivalent of Reagan parking the USS New Jersey off the coast of Lebanon and lobbing some shells or stationing marines at the airport. And we all know how that ended.
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  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited April 2017
    BS44325 said:

    It's pretty clear what I meant and everything I posted above is 100% correct. No facts invented.
    No, it's not pretty clear. You said it's a photo during/after the China meeting. It is absolute fact now that it is NOT during a China meeting. It is in fact the National Security meeting when they were discussing the attack on Syria. That was confirmed by Spicer. So what exactly is 100% correct about your 100% inaccurate post? I assume you are trying to say it is 100% accurate because you said "during/after" the China meeting, and this Syria meeting did happen to be held later on the same day of the China meeting? Hmm. I don't think that quite works man. ;) And the reason I'm harping on it isn't to just try and prove you wrong, btw. It's because I think it is actually important to acknowledge/point out who exactly is running things when it comes to military actions.... and the truth of that point is disturbing at best.... something that you seem to have been specifically trying to mislead people about with your post.

    See for yourself: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/07/politics/white-house-photo-syria-briefing/
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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,048
    it is iraq all over again. stay awake and don't fall for it.
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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,048
    here is my theory.

    trump knows he is under investigation. i think they will find enough evidence to recommend impeachment and trial. this will take some time. trump knows if it gets to impeachment, with things as they are now, he is fucked. he is going to get us into a war and use the old republican standby of "you never change presidents in a time of war" thing. this will keep just enough republicans from voting to convict him.

    this move is a distraction, nothing more.
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  • Posts: 13,559

    I have yet to find or see any proof that it was Assad that ordered the chemical attack. Does anyone have any? Furthermore, Trump launching a strike of that caliber without congressional approval is illegal. The president is allowed discretion to carry out acts of war without congressional approval ONLY when national security or the nation itself is under immanent attack. Syria clearly did not represent an immanent danger to the US. Impeachment hearings should start soon.

    exactly ... there is none ... and I guarantee you no one has any ... it was the same in 2013 ... the same people went into iraq with no proof either ...

    furthermore ... do you peeps who believe the msm line on syria actually know who the syrian gov't is fighting? ... it's Al Qaeda and ISIS ... there is no civil war there ... there is no uprising from the people ... russia/syria are fighting extremists ... the supposed chemical attack in idlib is an al qaeda strong hold ...

    soo ... by supporting action against syria now - you are basically supporting terrorists ...
  • Posts: 13,559

    Trump ordering the launching of 59 cruise missiles on a basically empty airbase, that was up and running within 36 hours, was the equivalent of Reagan parking the USS New Jersey off the coast of Lebanon and lobbing some shells or stationing marines at the airport. And we all know how that ended.
    that airbase was used by syria a few weeks ago to defend against israeli air strikes ...
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    from what I've read, he has received a lot of bi-partisan support and also from most allied nations.
    the same allied nations that went into iraq? ... the same ones that continue to lend undying support for israel?
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,460
    polaris_x said:

    the same allied nations that went into iraq? ... the same ones that continue to lend undying support for israel?
    did I say I agree with it? it's an observation, and I was very surprised that it got support.
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  • Posts: 13,559

    did I say I agree with it? it's an observation, and I was very surprised that it got support.
    i didn't say you did or didn't ... i'm just pointing out that support from those nations doesn't necessarily legitimize it ...
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    polaris_x said:

    exactly ... there is none ... and I guarantee you no one has any ... it was the same in 2013 ... the same people went into iraq with no proof either ...

    furthermore ... do you peeps who believe the msm line on syria actually know who the syrian gov't is fighting? ... it's Al Qaeda and ISIS ... there is no civil war there ... there is no uprising from the people ... russia/syria are fighting extremists ... the supposed chemical attack in idlib is an al qaeda strong hold ...

    soo ... by supporting action against syria now - you are basically supporting terrorists ...
    I agree that technically this is not a civil war but at the same time it is a civil war that the people are dealing with. yes the people are not uprising but can you expect that when one side you have a governemnt that is dropping bombs on them and on the other side they also have ISIS is attacking the people also?
    I don't think it is as simple as to say that if you support action against the Syrian government you are supporting the terrorist.
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,460
    polaris_x said:

    i didn't say you did or didn't ... i'm just pointing out that support from those nations doesn't necessarily legitimize it ...
    of course it doesn't. but it makes it more difficult to impeach a president on an event when it has widespread local and international approval.
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  • Posts: 13,559
    fife said:

    I agree that technically this is not a civil war but at the same time it is a civil war that the people are dealing with. yes the people are not uprising but can you expect that when one side you have a governemnt that is dropping bombs on them and on the other side they also have ISIS is attacking the people also?
    I don't think it is as simple as to say that if you support action against the Syrian government you are supporting the terrorist.
    don't take this the wrong way but as I recommended to people - do a bit of objective research on Syria ... if you will only believe things from msm sites - then there really isn't much to add ... but there are a lot of independent media that is telling not only a different story ... but also showing direct evidence of the fraud being perpetrated there ... check out the video I posted at the beginning of this thread ... this is a delegation of the US Peace Council and their independent investigation into Syria ...

    if the Syrian gov't falls - the country will be overun by terrorists ... it's similar to what is happening in iraq and basically every other country the US has orchestrated regime change ...
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    of course it doesn't. but it makes it more difficult to impeach a president on an event when it has widespread local and international approval.
    i really don't think he's gonna get impeached ... especially for something like this ...

    although, if the possibility of trump using this as a wag the dog makes people actually dig a bit deeper into syria ... i'm all for it ...
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    of course it doesn't. but it makes it more difficult to impeach a president on an event when it has widespread local and international approval.
    I really don't care if it had a 90% approval rating from the country. It's an illegal act. That sort of military action requires congressional approval.
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  • Posts: 13,559
    so ... the russians and americans agree today to investigate what happened the other day ... further cementing that there is no proof that assad dropped chemical weapons ... yet, everyone continues to peddle this myth ...
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Well Tillerson basically gave Russia an ultimatum at the G7 Summit. He essentially said Russia has to choose between the US and Syria. This would be good, except I think Russia will choose Syria.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,460

    I really don't care if it had a 90% approval rating from the country. It's an illegal act. That sort of military action requires congressional approval.
    I agree.
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  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    edited April 2017

    I really don't care if it had a 90% approval rating from the country. It's an illegal act. That sort of military action requires congressional approval.
    This is why in Trump's announcement of the attack, he said: "It is in the vital national security interest of the United states to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons". He's attempting to link the attack with national security, to justify the bypassing of Congress.
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  • Posts: 13,559
    this guy is an expert in syria ... university professor from Australia ... he's not russian ... ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF21hR0PgbQ

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