Syria and the US's Motive

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    CM189191 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    That's reverse sexism no?
    Racism?
    I'm so confused.
    Would you guys make up your minds already.

    jfc
    wtf is reverse sexism? Wouldn't that be the opposite of discrimination?
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you're single.
    If a man were to say that about a woman because of comments she made he would be considered a chauvinist pig, filth and just mean.
    Our lips are sealed.
    A feisty woman deserves a seat at the table.
    feisty? how about smart... that isn't enough for you?
    So that woman in the meme...
    Is she feisty?
    or is she smart for being on team President Trump?
    I don't know what she is since I don't know who she is. I hope "feisty" isn't the most operative adjective for her.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:


    Someone please explain to me why the only military in the war room is the person watching the door?

    Funny indeed but that isn't the "war room" as I assume you are aware. That is Mar-a-lago during/after the China meeting. The military people are on video conference from the Pentagon of course. But please...continue.
    I wonder what server they used for their conference call? Hope it was secure.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    If it was porn it was secure.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    Yeah how about the irony of orange bafoon crying about how disturbed he was with images of kids chocking to death yet his administration refuses to take any refugees in , let them choke just not here !
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    josevolution said:

    Yeah how about the irony of orange bafoon crying about how disturbed he was with images of kids chocking to death yet his administration refuses to take any refugees in , let them choke just not here !

    Maybe without Bannon around he can start to be human again.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    To top it off we are now attacking both sides of this civil war !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    PJ_Soul said:

    The more I look at that photo the more disturbing it becomes..... So many fucking men. You'd think men out number women in America 10 to 1.

    Yup. But look back at obamas photo of Osama raid....almost all men as well. Old white men. I went back to look cause in my head it was going to be different and I was going to make the same comment you did. It is crazy and strange that no one even attempts.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:


    Someone please explain to me why the only military in the war room is the person watching the door?

    Funny indeed but that isn't the "war room" as I assume you are aware. That is Mar-a-lago during/after the China meeting. The military people are on video conference from the Pentagon of course. But please...continue.
    So it's been confirmed that this is indeed a meeting about the Syria mission in the so-called Mar-a-lago situation room. I am curious as to what your comment means here. Were you inventing a fact, trying to suggest this isn't the full gang of idiots behind an act of war? Or simply wanted point out that this isn't in the WH war room?
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    If all the past chemical attacks were done by the terrorists / rebels in hopes of pullling the west into action and the all failed .... why would the terrorists / rebels try doing it again after the White House indicated they were not going to interfere with Syria.

    You would have to be a pretty stupid terrorist / rebel to think that would work.

    But if your a brutal dictator that maybe didn't turn over all of your chemical weapons and just heard the White House say they were going to be hands off, I'd think that would be a good time to go shooting some chemical weapons.

    uhhh ... this doesn't make any sense ... chemical attack just happened = US intervention ... so, your theory holds absolutely no water ...
    Assad was testing a new leader and how Trump would respond. One week after Trump Administration say hands off and we have a chemical weapons attack. It makes sense. Water held.
    you got to be kidding me ...

    syria is finally winning the war, they even have a US congresswoman supporting them, trump has stated that they don't want to intervene ... so, the smart thing to do is then gas your own people!?? ... c'mon ... this is not thinking critically ... what does assad gain? ... does he endear himself to his people - no ... does he garner more international support - no ... international support he desperately needs because he is fighting fucking al qaeda AND ISIS ...
    Once the body count goes past 400K, I don't think being endeared by your people is near the top of your to-do list. He has Russia backing him, ready to lie. Just tell the people he has under control that terrorist did it (like he is), so he isn't losing any shame to them.
    if he's fighting al qaeda and isis - the last thing he needs is having his people turn on him ... gassing his own people is not only impossible because he has no chemical weapons - it is totally illogical ... watch interviews of assad - he is not some raging dictator lunatic trope ...
    Even more scary that Assad isn't a raging lunatic. He keeps his pulse under 60 while carpet bombing Aleppo. Demoralize the population by giving zero fucks on if your enemy or your citizens are killed and herd them out. Siege the city and starve everyone out.

    And to claim Assad doesn't have any chemical weapons but the Jihads do is totally illogical. Even if he did turn over every chemical weapon he had (doubtful), he has had around 4 years to make some more.
    it's not illogical ... did you read the articles pointing to ISIS and chemical weapons? ... where is your response? ... the UN organization oversaw the dismantling of syria's chemical weapons ... that oversight doesn't just end after it's over ... it continues to present day ...
    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    If all the past chemical attacks were done by the terrorists / rebels in hopes of pullling the west into action and the all failed .... why would the terrorists / rebels try doing it again after the White House indicated they were not going to interfere with Syria.

    You would have to be a pretty stupid terrorist / rebel to think that would work.

    But if your a brutal dictator that maybe didn't turn over all of your chemical weapons and just heard the White House say they were going to be hands off, I'd think that would be a good time to go shooting some chemical weapons.

    uhhh ... this doesn't make any sense ... chemical attack just happened = US intervention ... so, your theory holds absolutely no water ...
    Assad was testing a new leader and how Trump would respond. One week after Trump Administration say hands off and we have a chemical weapons attack. It makes sense. Water held.
    you got to be kidding me ...

    syria is finally winning the war, they even have a US congresswoman supporting them, trump has stated that they don't want to intervene ... so, the smart thing to do is then gas your own people!?? ... c'mon ... this is not thinking critically ... what does assad gain? ... does he endear himself to his people - no ... does he garner more international support - no ... international support he desperately needs because he is fighting fucking al qaeda AND ISIS ...
    Once the body count goes past 400K, I don't think being endeared by your people is near the top of your to-do list. He has Russia backing him, ready to lie. Just tell the people he has under control that terrorist did it (like he is), so he isn't losing any shame to them.
    if he's fighting al qaeda and isis - the last thing he needs is having his people turn on him ... gassing his own people is not only impossible because he has no chemical weapons - it is totally illogical ... watch interviews of assad - he is not some raging dictator lunatic trope ...
    Even more scary that Assad isn't a raging lunatic. He keeps his pulse under 60 while carpet bombing Aleppo. Demoralize the population by giving zero fucks on if your enemy or your citizens are killed and herd them out. Siege the city and starve everyone out.

    And to claim Assad doesn't have any chemical weapons but the Jihads do is totally illogical. Even if he did turn over every chemical weapon he had (doubtful), he has had around 4 years to make some more.
    it's not illogical ... did you read the articles pointing to ISIS and chemical weapons? ... where is your response? ... the UN organization oversaw the dismantling of syria's chemical weapons ... that oversight doesn't just end after it's over ... it continues to present day ...
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  • Jason P
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    I Googled ISIS and chemical weapons. Thr 1st thing that came up was an institute that cited rebel / terrorists chem attacks were from local reports, social media, and ISIS propaganda. They stated "ISIS propaganda" as one of their 3 sources.

    I did similar citations when I was stoned and late for a 10th grade book report. Thank god for The Red Badge of Courage

    FAKE NEWS!

    Need some Russian reporters to make sense of this

    Hmmm

    I'm not going to declare that rebel / terrorist have not used chemical weapons. I wonder were they got them from. Spoils of victory? From The Great Interviewer? Good bomber of carpets?

    All the rolling hills, I'll flatten 'em out, yeah
    It's herd behavior, uh huh
    It's evolution, baby


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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Posting from a crappy phone if above posts make no sense.

    SAD!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jason P said:

    I Googled ISIS and chemical weapons. Thr 1st thing that came up was an institute that cited rebel / terrorists chem attacks were from local reports, social media, and ISIS propaganda. They stated "ISIS propaganda" as one of their 3 sources.

    I did similar citations when I was stoned and late for a 10th grade book report. Thank god for The Red Badge of Courage

    FAKE NEWS!

    Need some Russian reporters to make sense of this

    Hmmm

    I'm not going to declare that rebel / terrorist have not used chemical weapons. I wonder were they got them from. Spoils of victory? From The Great Interviewer? Good bomber of carpets?

    All the rolling hills, I'll flatten 'em out, yeah
    It's herd behavior, uh huh
    It's evolution, baby


    10th grade is a bitch. Good luck.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Jason P said:

    Posting from a crappy phone if above posts make no sense.

    SAD!

    I blame Obama
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited April 2017
    Well, I guess it was a resounding success. $59 million worth of missiles and all we got was suspension of flights from the airbase for 24 or 36 hours. Seems a worthy investment in the administration's overarching Syria policy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/continued-bombing-by-assad-shows-limits-of-single-us-attack/2017/04/08/1c70cb1a-1c83-11e7-bcc2-7d1a0973e7b2_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump710pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.a0cd32fe9304
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  • BS44325
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    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:


    Someone please explain to me why the only military in the war room is the person watching the door?

    Funny indeed but that isn't the "war room" as I assume you are aware. That is Mar-a-lago during/after the China meeting. The military people are on video conference from the Pentagon of course. But please...continue.
    So it's been confirmed that this is indeed a meeting about the Syria mission in the so-called Mar-a-lago situation room. I am curious as to what your comment means here. Were you inventing a fact, trying to suggest this isn't the full gang of idiots behind an act of war? Or simply wanted point out that this isn't in the WH war room?
    It's pretty clear what I meant and everything I posted above is 100% correct. No facts invented.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    I think I found one of Polaris's sources that he would like us to read on this topic.

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960119001418

    It's pretty much the Mullah's point of view.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.

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