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slightofjeff said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In all honesty, how many Trump voters/supporters have flipped their allegiance and have realized what a twit he is?

I'm thinking there's bound to be many, but it's hard to assess. I know what the polls say, but I don't place much stock in those recently.

Zero. I think the number is sadly zero.

I tend to believe the number is very low as well. Trump's supporters are blinded by the light of Trump, all that he has done in the last 70 days is great in the way in their minds he's shaking up Washington. The more outrageous he is tweeting, the more money he spends traveling and playing golf is great now in 6 months of this that might be a different story. What a Schmuck!

Peace

mrussel1 said:

slightofjeff said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In all honesty, how many Trump voters/supporters have flipped their allegiance and have realized what a twit he is?

I'm thinking there's bound to be many, but it's hard to assess. I know what the polls say, but I don't place much stock in those recently.

Zero. I think the number is sadly zero.

Our issue was turnout from minorities and Bernie supporters. I'm not sure Trump voters need to be turned.

Spot on.

mrussel1 said:

slightofjeff said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In all honesty, how many Trump voters/supporters have flipped their allegiance and have realized what a twit he is?

I'm thinking there's bound to be many, but it's hard to assess. I know what the polls say, but I don't place much stock in those recently.

Zero. I think the number is sadly zero.

Our issue was turnout from minorities and Bernie supporters. I'm not sure Trump voters need to be turned.

Not exactly

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/upshot/a-2016-review-turnout-wasnt-the-driver-of-clintons-defeat.html?referer=https://www.google.ca/

You will need to turn some Trump voters or at least hope they stay home. This is why the previous polls didn't matter. It is why the current polls don't matter. The numbers you need to worry about are regional. They were undersampled and that hasn't changed.

Had there been the turnout from minorities in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 as there had been for President Obama...Hillary wins the election.

ledvedderman said:

Had there been the turnout from minorities in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 as there had been for President Obama...Hillary wins the election.

Exactly my point.

mrussel1 said:

ledvedderman said:

Had there been the turnout from minorities in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 as there had been for President Obama...Hillary wins the election.

Exactly my point.

And we're not talking big numbers either. This race really could have gone to Hillary quite easily.

Yes, Trump backers on here, she was far from a perfect candidate. No, Bernie backers, Bernie would not have won. Hillary should have won this election had there been a better inner city Get Out the Vote effort in the 3 states in play.

BS44325 said:

ledvedderman said:

mrussel1 said:

ledvedderman said:

Had there been the turnout from minorities in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 as there had been for President Obama...Hillary wins the election.

Exactly my point.

And we're not talking big numbers either. This race really could have gone to Hillary quite easily.

Yes, Trump backers on here, she was far from a perfect candidate. No, Bernie backers, Bernie would not have won. Hillary should have won this election had there been a better inner city Get Out the Vote effort in the 3 states in play.

Incorrect.

Yeah. Okay.

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

slightofjeff said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In all honesty, how many Trump voters/supporters have flipped their allegiance and have realized what a twit he is?

I'm thinking there's bound to be many, but it's hard to assess. I know what the polls say, but I don't place much stock in those recently.

Zero. I think the number is sadly zero.

Our issue was turnout from minorities and Bernie supporters. I'm not sure Trump voters need to be turned.

Not exactly

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/upshot/a-2016-review-turnout-wasnt-the-driver-of-clintons-defeat.html?referer=https://www.google.ca/

You will need to turn some Trump voters or at least hope they stay home. This is why the previous polls didn't matter. It is why the current polls don't matter. The numbers you need to worry about are regional. They were undersampled and that hasn't changed.

Maybe you only read the last paragraph of your link? This paragragh seems more significant:

"Whether black turnout was “disappointing” or “poor” is a matter of perspective. It was consistent with our pre-election models, but it was significantly lower than it was four or eight years ago, when Mr. Obama galvanized record black turnout."

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

slightofjeff said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

In all honesty, how many Trump voters/supporters have flipped their allegiance and have realized what a twit he is?

I'm thinking there's bound to be many, but it's hard to assess. I know what the polls say, but I don't place much stock in those recently.

Zero. I think the number is sadly zero.

Our issue was turnout from minorities and Bernie supporters. I'm not sure Trump voters need to be turned.

Not exactly

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/upshot/a-2016-review-turnout-wasnt-the-driver-of-clintons-defeat.html?referer=https://www.google.ca/

You will need to turn some Trump voters or at least hope they stay home. This is why the previous polls didn't matter. It is why the current polls don't matter. The numbers you need to worry about are regional. They were undersampled and that hasn't changed.

Maybe you only read the last paragraph of your link? This paragragh seems more significant:

"Whether black turnout was “disappointing” or “poor” is a matter of perspective. It was consistent with our pre-election models, but it was significantly lower than it was four or eight years ago, when Mr. Obama galvanized record black turnout."

I'm not sure if that is significant at all. Turnout was "consistent with pre-election models". You seem to be under the impression that you can reproduce the Obama turnout machine of 2008 (massive) when you probably can't even reproduce the turnout machine of 2012 (large). It makes you believe that you can capture lightning in a bottle with a democratic candidate that does not exist. Obama was a once in a lifetime phenomenon and it was the loss of white voters that previously voted for him thay hurt Hillary the most.

I make a point to listen or watch the feed to the Spicy News Briefing every day.

Yesterday while lying to a reporters face about the ridiculous allegations concerning Russia, he told her to stop shaking her head. This is the same reporter that the OF told to set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus..."are they friends of yours? do you know them? maybe you could set up a meeting..." Racist fucks the both of them.

He actually had spinach in his teeth two days ago.