The terrorist attacks we don't care about

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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    I don't want him to kill more innocent people.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,554
    Annafalk said:

    I don't want him to kill more innocent people.

    You don't throw out due process because of fear. Pre-internet, I never knew there were so many advocates for a police state.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    A man was arrested after trying to drive into a crowd in Antwerp, Belgium

    A man was arrested after he tried to drive into a crowd in Antwerp, Belgium at around 11 a.m. local time, according to police.

    The driver was arrested and named as Mohamed R, born on May 8, 1977, of French nationality and domiciled in France, according to Belgian prosecutors.

    People managed to jump out of the car's way and the military chased and stopped the car, the city's Mayor Bart de Wever said at a press briefing.

    "The vehicle was travelling at high speed on the Meir [main shopping street], so people had to jump to the side," Antwerp police chief Serge Muyters said at the press briefing.

    The driver, "a man of North African origin" who was wearing a "camouflage uniform," was arrested after a chase in the centre of the city, he said.


    The driver attempted to flee when soldiers tried to intercept the vehicle but shortly afterwards Antwerp police rapid response team was able to intercept.

    Different weapons were discovered in the trunk, including bladed weapons, a riot gun, and a can containing a product that has not yet been identified. The bomb squad is at the scene and additional police and military were deployed in the city.

    Given the initial information gathered and taking into account what happened on Wednesday in London, it was decided to give the file to the federal prosecutor's office.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/man-was-arrested-after-trying-to-drive-into-a-crowd-in-antwerp-2017-3
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2017

    London just had one. Been in the news for a bit, but not a peep. So, I guess it qualifies as a terrorist act nobody cares about (unless I missed something around here)?

    This clip has the first released photo of the f**king idiot who perpetrated the violence. He's in a gurney and being rushed to the hospital after being shot by a cop. He killed 2 and injured 20. What's with the special care? After being shot by the officer... he should have been shot one more time from point blank and... see ya, shithead.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/first-picture-of-london-attack-suspect/ar-BByBBcX?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp

    I feel like the London attack has had extensive international coverage. It is still dominating the news ..... It is clearly not an attack that nobody cares about. Those would be the attacks that don't really even get media coverage.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Up to 350 civilians dead in Mosul bombings in the last couple weeks.

    Over 100 civilians killed in Aleppo last week, including bombings at a school and a mosque.

    42 Somali refugees gunned down on a boat by the Saudis last week, using US supplied apaches.

    But state sponsored terror doesn't count. Collateral damage.
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Looks like Donald Trump, Jr, and Barak Obama both released statements about the London tragedy. One was classy, the other not so much. I'm sure it isn't hard to figure out which person said which statement.

    One said: "You have to be kidding me?! Terror attacks are part of living in big city, says London Mayor Sadiq Khan"

    The other said: ""My heart goes out to the victims and their families in London. No act of terror can shake the strength and resilience of our British ally."

    One expressed sympathy and support, the other mischaracterized what London's mayor said and tried to goad him via Twitter. Trumps gotta Trump.
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  • rgambs said:

    London just had one. Been in the news for a bit, but not a peep. So, I guess it qualifies as a terrorist act nobody cares about (unless I missed something around here)?

    This clip has the first released photo of the f**king idiot who perpetrated the violence. He's in a gurney and being rushed to the hospital after being shot by a cop. He killed 2 and injured 20. What's with the special care? After being shot by the officer... he should have been shot one more time from point blank and... see ya, shithead.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/first-picture-of-london-attack-suspect/ar-BByBBcX?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp

    Absolutely, execute him without trial and miss the chance to interrogate him and at least attempt to get some information, that sounds smart!
    There not going to get any information that is going to thwart the next attack by the next f**king idiot from him. They'll get that information pouring through his social media and tracing all his other activities.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jeffbr said:

    Looks like Donald Trump, Jr, and Barak Obama both released statements about the London tragedy. One was classy, the other not so much. I'm sure it isn't hard to figure out which person said which statement.

    One said: "You have to be kidding me?! Terror attacks are part of living in big city, says London Mayor Sadiq Khan"

    The other said: ""My heart goes out to the victims and their families in London. No act of terror can shake the strength and resilience of our British ally."

    One expressed sympathy and support, the other mischaracterized what London's mayor said and tried to goad him via Twitter. Trumps gotta Trump.

    Obama is still leading.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
  • PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    And that's cool.

    It's jut others feel differently about how to deal with obscenities such as this loser. I'm okay with giving him what he deserves and what he was looking for (death). If we want to treat him nicely... could we at least turn down the nice a bit? I mean... did we need to expedite his medical attention before some of his victims received theirs, brush his hair out of his eyes and hold his hand to the hospital (yes... I'm employing sarcasm to give my point a little muscle)?
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    What if he would kill and hurt other people again? Or affect others from or in jail ? I am not pro death penalty normally just trying to think here.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited March 2017
    I'm curious to know how he took down the cop? He stabbed him to death. Why didn't the cop defend himself? Of course, had he defended himself, several here would have been saying, "That was excessive."

    As for the shithead... The man who killed three people Wednesday and was shot to death by police was born in Britain and once came under investigation for links to religious extremism, British Prime Minister Theresa May said Thursday in a sweeping speech before the House of Commons.
    British officials named the attacker as Khalid Masood, a 52-year-old with criminal convictions who was living in the West Midlands, which includes the central city of Birmingham
    .

    Criminal convictions and under investigation for links to religious extremism. A real champion!

    Link: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/is-group-claims-responsibility-for-london-car-knife-attack/ar-BByCw7q?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    From BBC news;

    Keith PalmerImage copyrightPA
    PC Keith Palmer, 48, was stabbed as he tried to stop the attacker in a courtyard outside the Houses of Parliament.
    He was an unarmed member of the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Squad who had served for 15 years.
    "Keith will be remembered as a wonderful dad and husband," his family said in a statement.
    "A loving son, brother and uncle. A long-time supporter of Charlton FC. Dedicated to his job and proud to be a police officer, brave and courageous. A friend to everyone who knew him.
    "He will be deeply missed. We love him so much. His friends and family are shocked and devastated by his loss."
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Annafalk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    What if he would kill and hurt other people again? Or affect others from or in jail ? I am not pro death penalty normally just trying to think here.
    Obviously in opposing the death penalty, I would expect for a person guilty of murder (with no mitigating circumstances etc) to spend the remainder of their lives in jail. I have many many problems with sentencing laws, yet even so, I don't think I could support the death penalty
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    And that's cool.

    It's jut others feel differently about how to deal with obscenities such as this loser. I'm okay with giving him what he deserves and what he was looking for (death). If we want to treat him nicely... could we at least turn down the nice a bit? I mean... did we need to expedite his medical attention before some of his victims received theirs, brush his hair out of his eyes and hold his hand to the hospital (yes... I'm employing sarcasm to give my point a little muscle)?
    As far as I know, medical professionals are trained to treat people in order of medical need, regardless of who that person might be or what they might have done. Even if that doesn't sit well with you in cases such as this, I think it is fundamentally a very important principle for medical professionals to follow
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    And that's cool.

    It's jut others feel differently about how to deal with obscenities such as this loser. I'm okay with giving him what he deserves and what he was looking for (death). If we want to treat him nicely... could we at least turn down the nice a bit? I mean... did we need to expedite his medical attention before some of his victims received theirs, brush his hair out of his eyes and hold his hand to the hospital (yes... I'm employing sarcasm to give my point a little muscle)?
    As far as I know, medical professionals are trained to treat people in order of medical need, regardless of who that person might be or what they might have done. Even if that doesn't sit well with you in cases such as this, I think it is fundamentally a very important principle for medical professionals to follow
    correct. you cannot give medical professionals the choice of who to treat or not to treat.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,554

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    And that's cool.

    It's jut others feel differently about how to deal with obscenities such as this loser. I'm okay with giving him what he deserves and what he was looking for (death). If we want to treat him nicely... could we at least turn down the nice a bit? I mean... did we need to expedite his medical attention before some of his victims received theirs, brush his hair out of his eyes and hold his hand to the hospital (yes... I'm employing sarcasm to give my point a little muscle)?
    As far as I know, medical professionals are trained to treat people in order of medical need, regardless of who that person might be or what they might have done. Even if that doesn't sit well with you in cases such as this, I think it is fundamentally a very important principle for medical professionals to follow
    And it's something to be admired, not criticized.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2017
    Annafalk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Annafalk said:

    It's disheartening that we are at the point when we're in favour of summary execution just because we "feel better" that someone is dead.

    I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist.
    My take is that nobody expects you to have sympathy for a mass murdering terrorist. For most anti-death penalty folks, sympathy for the criminal has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Exactly, it's more to do with a belief that no one has the right to take the life of another, even if that person be guilty of doing so themselves
    What if he would kill and hurt other people again? Or affect others from or in jail ? I am not pro death penalty normally just trying to think here.
    I( have no issues with supermax security for these people. Will never be let out of prison and will stay in their own cell, isolated, 23 hours a day, with no access to be able to harm anyone. It's actually not that hard to ensure that someone doesn't hurt anybody again. There are sentences and prisons that can deal with that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata