Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
That is completely untrue in the global sense
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Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
That is completely untrue in the global sense
Thought it was implied that I am specifically talking about the United States...where education is helping to reduce unintentional firearm deaths according to the most recent statistics. I am being a bit facetious, in all honesty. These statistical interpretations can be skewed and manipulated by either side of the argument to fit their validation needs. I've seen the CDC reaseatch of violence grossly exaggerated and grossly misleading by gun control advocates as well as vise versa. It's hard to address any problems when the research methods are flawed.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
Who s gonna be first to discredit these numbers?
I'm all ears.
I'll discredit the conclusion you're probably drawing. Gun sales increased, but not because more people are buying guns, it's because gun owners are hoarding guns. There's no relationship between the number of guns purchased and the decrease in accidental deaths.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
Who s gonna be first to discredit these numbers?
I'm all ears.
I'll discredit the conclusion you're probably drawing. Gun sales increased, but not because more people are buying guns, it's because gun owners are hoarding guns. There's no relationship between the number of guns purchased and the decrease in accidental deaths.
Yeah, there is no great way of gathering information to support this statement. There have been reports that more and more women are purchasing firearms and getting into hunting/shooting sports, but most surveys of "who owns a gun" is probably going to be inaccurate due the broad hesitation of gun owners divulging such information to the surveyors. For instance, most people have been taught to "just say no" when asked by medical professionals whether or not they own guns and there is no demographic information turned in to anyone from the gun sellers. How is it that you think you can accurately confirm that the most people buying guns are hoarders? From what I've seen and heard, the rate of 1st time gun purchases are on the increase and have been for a while (especially during Obama's presidency) due to the hype/fear/whatever you want to call it.
My conclusion's based on responses to the question of whether or not there's a gun in the household. This has dropped over time. People lying about it would likely stay constant over time. The paranoia about the government taking your guns has always been around.
My conclusion's based on responses to the question of whether or not there's a gun in the household. This has dropped over time. People lying about it would likely stay constant over time. The paranoia about the government taking your guns has always been around.
That would be something interesting to research. I wonder if the statistics relate to trust/distrust in the government or how means of gathering information have changed over time. I, for one, screen any phone numbers that I do not recognize these days due to the abundance of telemarketers/scammers (although I'm on the no call list and this annoys me to no end), but who knows how many surveyor calls I've rejected. Not to mention that people in states that have become more strict on gun control lately would invite a lot more people lying or refusing to answer gun ownership questionnaires accurately. There are plenty of reasons those numbers might be highly questionable based on the gathering methods. I think there are probably a lot more gun owners out there than most imagine.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
Who s gonna be first to discredit these numbers?
I'm all ears.
I'll discredit the conclusion you're probably drawing. Gun sales increased, but not because more people are buying guns, it's because gun owners are hoarding guns. There's no relationship between the number of guns purchased and the decrease in accidental deaths.
concealed carry permits and gun sales have dropped very little if any at all, most license's and sales are credited to minorities lately, I don't have a link to provide but it was something I read just recently.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
Who s gonna be first to discredit these numbers?
I'm all ears.
I'll discredit the conclusion you're probably drawing. Gun sales increased, but not because more people are buying guns, it's because gun owners are hoarding guns. There's no relationship between the number of guns purchased and the decrease in accidental deaths.
concealed carry permits and gun sales have dropped very little if any at all, most license's and sales are credited to minorities lately, I don't have a link to provide but it was something I read just recently.
Households with guns is the important number if you guys want to make a case.
I grew up in Alaska around a lot of very responsible gun owners. I went shooting a few times and just couldn't find the fun, but totally support my family and friends rights to legally own them
Suspect taken alive. What's the over/under on their complexion?
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Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
Who s gonna be first to discredit these numbers?
I'm all ears.
I'll discredit the conclusion you're probably drawing. Gun sales increased, but not because more people are buying guns, it's because gun owners are hoarding guns. There's no relationship between the number of guns purchased and the decrease in accidental deaths.
concealed carry permits and gun sales have dropped very little if any at all, most license's and sales are credited to minorities lately, I don't have a link to provide but it was something I read just recently.
Households with guns is the important number if you guys want to make a case.
couldn't agree more...but it does rule out the earlier remarks made by train members who stated something to the effect "white gun toting yehaa rednecks" but in any case I'm happy to be able to live in a country that still despite the leftist anti-gun nuts has the freedom to own and carry a weapon.
Suspect taken alive. What's the over/under on their complexion?
Hmong
Damn, that w/should've been my second guess
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You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.
wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including semi auto pistols.
Godfather.
You don't have a right to buy military weapons.
So if the South during the civil war had repeating rifles while the North only had muskets,the result of the war would be a South victory and therefore slavery would have continued. If the United States government ever turned on their own people,I myself would want a level playing field.
You want civilians to have access to everything the military has?
Small arms..Yes. Explosive munitions and armored vehicles,obviously no.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
That is completely untrue in the global sense
The thread was AMERICA's gun violence.
Yes, but the claim as it was made is still false.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Interesting... "the number of fatal firearms accidents dropped 17 percent from 2014 to 2015 to 489, the lowest total since record-keeping began in 1903. That’s about three-tenths of 1 percent of the 146,571 total accidental deaths from all other listed causes, which are up 8 percent from 2014 to 2015. It should be noted that the decrease, which was the largest percentage decline of any category, came in a year that saw record firearms sales to many millions of Americans." http://www.nssfblog.com/unintentional-firearms-fatalities-fall-17-percent/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=bulletpoints&utm_term
So how many preventable deaths is that? How is that in relation to other causes; like terrorism, car accidents or overdoses? Or compared to other countries? What's the standard here? How many preventable deaths are acceptable?
I get skeptical when people talk in percentages, don't provide real numbers, or any perspective. This is cherry picking data.
Any research that I've seen shows that drug overdoses and car accidents far outweigh unintentional firearm deaths. The point is that unintentional firearm deaths are lower than ever due to proper education. Statistically, more firearms does not correlate with more unintended firearm deaths and more education does correlate with fewer unintended firearm deaths.
That is completely untrue in the global sense
really ? are you referring to countries in the middle east ? in any case I'd have to disagree with you, besides I'm more concerned with US and it's laws and restrictions.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
Wait, wait, wait...aren't AR-15s impractical for home defense as stated by the anti-firearms experts around here? Seemed awfully practical in this situation...I find it odd that they didn't use the term "assault rifle" as usual. Where is the "teen uses assault rifle to stop three home intruders" NBC headline? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
Wait, wait, wait...aren't AR-15s impractical for home defense as stated by the anti-firearms experts around here? Seemed awfully practical in this situation...I find it odd that they didn't use the term "assault rifle" as usual. Where is the "teen uses assault rifle to stop three home intruders"? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541
hahahhaha !!!! yea as this story points out there 3 intruders and a driver outside, an AR 15 is well within practical defense (very nice weapon)
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The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
Wait, wait, wait...aren't AR-15s impractical for home defense as stated by the anti-firearms experts around here? Seemed awfully practical in this situation...I find it odd that they didn't use the term "assault rifle" as usual. Where is the "teen uses assault rifle to stop three home intruders" NBC headline? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541
That doesn't fit the narrative of the radical lefty anti-gunner.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
Wait, wait, wait...aren't AR-15s impractical for home defense as stated by the anti-firearms experts around here? Seemed awfully practical in this situation...I find it odd that they didn't use the term "assault rifle" as usual. Where is the "teen uses assault rifle to stop three home intruders" NBC headline? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541
Now you've got your logics crossed. People defend AR-15s because they say they're little more than a dressed up hunting rifle. Which of course, it is. Dressed up to be a military grade weapon, for military purposes, not civilian use.
A tank would probably be pretty useful for home defense, too. But you don't see one of those parked my front yard.
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https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/03/robert-farago/chicago-pd-bounces-just-3-of-recruits-could-you-pass-chicago-police-department-shooting-test/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-injured-wisconsin-shooting-schools-lockdown-46310182
lately, I don't have a link to provide but it was something I read just recently.
"white gun toting yehaa rednecks" but in any case I'm happy to be able to live in a country that still despite the leftist anti-gun nuts
has the freedom to own and carry a weapon.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/lemons-gun-totin-left-wingers-demonstrate-trump-rally-bloodshed-on-the-horizon-9192965
concerned with US and it's laws and restrictions.
The would-be burglars had "a short exchange of words" with the homeowner's 23-year-old son before he shot them with a rifle, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said. The unnamed shooter has not been charged, and Mahoney said he appeared to be acting in self-defense -- but investigators said more charges could be coming.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-getaway-driver-charged-murder-183108050.html
thanks for the up date.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541
as this story points out there 3 intruders and a driver outside, an AR 15 is well within practical defense (very nice weapon)
"The decision marks the fifth time that a federal appeals court has upheld a state assault weapons law, but it goes further than those previous decisions. It is the first to exclude AR-15s and other similar guns from Second Amendment protection on the grounds that they are virtually indistinguishable from weapons of war. The court found that such designation overrides considerations of the common usage or suitability for home self-defense of a gun like the AR-15."
A tank would probably be pretty useful for home defense, too. But you don't see one of those parked my front yard.