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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Mukasey seems to refute Clapper's non-denial denial

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,141
    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Because the Obama administration was so very careless and reckless for the previous 7 and 3/4 years prior?
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,770
    "Be careful of the blowback"

    Lol, thanks for the advice Holden Caulfield.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    This is what strikes me as odd:

    If Trump found out he was being tapped why would he tweet it and kickstart and investigation unless he is certain there is nothing there?
    Could he be that stupid?
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I'm sure it's been speculated here and elsewhere, but when I see the tweets from Saturday morning, I view someone who sees a crisis is coming and they're trying to get out in front of the storm/story. That's just how it reads to me.
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  • dignin
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    eddiec said:

    This is what strikes me as odd:

    If Trump found out he was being tapped why would he tweet it and kickstart and investigation unless he is certain there is nothing there?
    Could he be that stupid?

    The narcissist thinks he's never done anything wrong in his entire life.

    Remember in his last press before the election when he publicly asked the Russians to hack Hillary?

    Of course he is that stupid.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,548
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Because the Obama administration was so very careless and reckless for the previous 7 and 3/4 years prior?
    No kidding. Not much minefield on Obama's side, since he actually knew what he was doing. trump calling for an investigation is sure to back fire. I guess don will learn the hard way to not tweet when high.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    ledvedderman said:

    I'm sure it's been speculated here and elsewhere, but when I see the tweets from Saturday morning, I view someone who sees a crisis is coming and they're trying to get out in front of the storm/story. That's just how it reads to me.

    yep...might as well start deflecting now to create the diversion.

    I've heard a few people point out the ridiculousness of Trump dropping what could be the biggest bomb in US political history (the idea that Obama tapped his phones...absent a court order it is presumed) and then soon after following up with a tweet about Swartzenegger and the Apprentice.

    To go off on those two subjects (as POTUS) within a few minutes of each other is very disturbing to me. Trump is a fucking lunatic.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    ledvedderman said:

    I'm sure it's been speculated here and elsewhere, but when I see the tweets from Saturday morning, I view someone who sees a crisis is coming and they're trying to get out in front of the storm/story. That's just how it reads to me.

    Yup, and by suggesting illegal behaviour by Obama & rallying supporters, he's already undermining any results before they come out. We already have people ready to dismiss the results because of how the info was allegedly collected. This is all very deliberate.

    While I do believe Trump's a paranoid sociopath, I don't think he's stupid.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,770
    "2016: hillary should go to jail for deleting some emails

    2017: whether or not trump is conspiring with russia is completely irrelevant"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    Mukasey seems to refute Clapper's non-denial denial

    Only by the public reports that he is reading, not because he has any direct knowledge. Whereas Clapper has knowledge. But again, to emphasize a point, FBI requests may not necessarily be known to Clapper.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Well if you read this semi-carefully, doesn't Foreign Intelligence services imply intelligence captured by other countries, not the US? Pretty sure the Brits, Israelis, etc. don't go to FISA.
  • unsung
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    mfc2006 said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Shocker!
    Hopefully he goes to prison someday for crimes against the US, but I doubt he will because his buddy Bush didn't.
  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Which is interesting, because of the few people who reference facts about what they didn't like about Obama, those facts will only be magnified under trump.
    Yep, government is a disease.
  • unsung
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Guess you don't fear elimination of the white race with Trump in office, eh?
    Hopefully the subsidizing and importation of the third world will stop.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:

    mfc2006 said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Shocker!
    Hopefully he goes to prison someday for crimes against the US, but I doubt he will because his buddy Bush didn't.
    What are those crimes again? I'd love to see you betray your lack of Constitutional knowledge. We already know you lack historical knowledge.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    We get it....he's black. Let it go.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Which is interesting, because of the few people who reference facts about what they didn't like about Obama, those facts will only be magnified under trump.
    Yep, government is a disease.
    We get it...you made it through John Galt's speech and finished Atlas Shrugged. Let it go.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Yes we know
    But if he had been a caucasion Republican named Brian O'Leary from Montana you'd still be in mourning at his not being in office any longer.
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