***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    2019

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Pence is horrible....however he is a rational human being. We're better off with someone like that with the nuke codes than Trump.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Based off the policy plans put forward thus far, I don't see it. Trump is governing from a perspective that is just as nutty as Pence, and his bombastic style is actually a plus to the huge population of morons in America. Pence doesn't have the charisma to bring out the rubes that voted for Trump. An impeachment would be a huge blow to the entire GOP and a huge boost to the Dems, downticket progress will be certain.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited March 2017
    2018

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Pence is horrible....however he is a rational human being. We're better off with someone like that with the nuke codes than Trump.
    I have to agree. During the campaign I did say that Pence was at least as bad... But Trump has proven to be FAR worse than I even imagined he would be, and I thought it would be really bad. At this point, just having a sane person in the White house seems like the better option, whatever his policies might end up being, especially since Trump's policies are just as bad or worse than any I can imagine Pence getting behind.
    The problem would probably still remain either way: Steve Bannon. I feel like maybe Pence doesn't have the guts to get rid of him or some of the other creeps in the campaign. I don't really sense that Pence is happy with them, really. But I think if him as someone who will go along with all those bullies anyhow. And push his homophobic agenda, of course.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Not gonna happen. Imagine trump as pres before social media.... this hysteria is all meaningless and he'll see out his term. Not to mention everything's blue so nothing can happen unless midterms flip the majority.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited March 2017
    2018
    It might happen or it might not happen. I think Trump is on a downward spiral, and it's only been 6 weeks. Impeachment is not a crazy idea at all, given what we've seen in this short amount of time.
    Why would we want to imagine Trump before social media? That isn't reality. Social media is playing a big role in this whole thing. It is letting us see Trump's sanity fade in real time.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    Not gonna happen. Imagine trump as pres before social media.... this hysteria is all meaningless and he'll see out his term. Not to mention everything's blue so nothing can happen unless midterms flip the majority.

    Trump would not have been elected before social media.
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    rgambs said:

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Based off the policy plans put forward thus far, I don't see it. Trump is governing from a perspective that is just as nutty as Pence, and his bombastic style is actually a plus to the huge population of morons in America. Pence doesn't have the charisma to bring out the rubes that voted for Trump. An impeachment would be a huge blow to the entire GOP and a huge boost to the Dems, downticket progress will be certain.
    Trump's policies ARE Pence's policies. Who do you think was in charge of the transition when all these policies were written? It wasn't Trump meeting with Paul Ryan. It was Pence.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    2019

    Not gonna happen. Imagine trump as pres before social media.... this hysteria is all meaningless and he'll see out his term. Not to mention everything's blue so nothing can happen unless midterms flip the majority.

    Before social media? Ha....So you want us to imagine him saying crazy, untrue shit, to actual reporters on a daily/hourly basis who could call him out on it? Then he would never have been elected president.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,389

    rgambs said:

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Based off the policy plans put forward thus far, I don't see it. Trump is governing from a perspective that is just as nutty as Pence, and his bombastic style is actually a plus to the huge population of morons in America. Pence doesn't have the charisma to bring out the rubes that voted for Trump. An impeachment would be a huge blow to the entire GOP and a huge boost to the Dems, downticket progress will be certain.
    Trump's policies ARE Pence's policies. Who do you think was in charge of the transition when all these policies were written? It wasn't Trump meeting with Paul Ryan. It was Pence.
    More than likely it was Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Jared Kushner, and not Pence writing all those policies.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    If Trump was president anytime during the Cold War he would have already been tried and convicted as a treasonous soviet sympathizer
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    2018

    rgambs said:

    I really, really don't want Mike Pence as our president. As bad as Trump is, the alternative is far, far worse.

    Trump is a wolf. Pence is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a far more dangerous prospect for this country.

    Based off the policy plans put forward thus far, I don't see it. Trump is governing from a perspective that is just as nutty as Pence, and his bombastic style is actually a plus to the huge population of morons in America. Pence doesn't have the charisma to bring out the rubes that voted for Trump. An impeachment would be a huge blow to the entire GOP and a huge boost to the Dems, downticket progress will be certain.
    Trump's policies ARE Pence's policies. Who do you think was in charge of the transition when all these policies were written? It wasn't Trump meeting with Paul Ryan. It was Pence.
    More than likely it was Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Jared Kushner, and not Pence writing all those policies.
    Yes, that's my impression too. I think Pence is more a follower than a leader in this band of lunatics.
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I respectfully disagree. Trump is the temporary distraction. I'm keeping my eye on Paul Ryan and Congress over the next four years.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487



    LOL
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    my2hands said:

    If Trump was president anytime during the Cold War he would have already been tried and convicted as a treasonous soviet sympathizer

    If Trump was President during WWII, we would all be driving Japanese and German automobiles today
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    2019
    Hypothetical situation---let's say an independent investigation eventually takes place and it is determined that the Trump campaign did do the nefarious things people think they didPence also knew and was complicit in helping the Russians.....
    unsung said:




    LOL

    A libertarian having no problem with a president "openly defying and brazenly disrespecting" the first amendment is something I find odd...
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If that is grounds for removal then the last 10 Presidents should have been removed.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    2018
    unsung said:




    LOL

    Do you mind clarifying the viewpoint that this post expresses for you? I'm honestly not sure. My first thought when I saw it was, of course, ***FALSE EQUIVALENCY STRIKES AGAIN!*** But just wondering what your own thoughts are about it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Just merely pointing out the continued hypocritical attitudes of the left.