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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    lotta hootin' and hollerin' goin on at that Trump rally.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    Tiki said:



    We each get our own deductible, too.

    Yeah, this is crazy. No one is saying it doesn't need fixing...
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    If you imagine there are 20 million people who "benefit" from the ACA, even if one million people are in my position (not able to actually use coverage they pay for) , where the taxpayer subsidised premium is $325 to $500 a month...that's 325 to 500 million dollars A MONTH to insurance companies. That money is gone.
    If you add in subsidies that the tax base pays for...that's just a huge waste of money.
    The 1st year I was on the ACA, my introductory payment was only $45 per month. My subsidised premium (on coverage I never used by the way) was still over 300 per month. The American taxpayer paid for that. Thanks, I guess.
    This year I pay 171 dollars a month and the rest ($154) is subsidized.

    If politicians actually described this scenario as what was wrong with the ACA instead of just saying Obamacare is so terrible but again there is NO PLAN....blah blah blah.
    Rant over
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Tiki said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
    smaller things get buried with that 6500 deduct. I never go to the doctor
    I've misinterpreted here. Are you saying the 6500 is a per visit deductible? So, for typical stuff under 6500 you just pay and there is no insurance?
    Typical stuff under 6500 is paid for by me.
    However isn't some preventative care (like flu shots, annual exam, etc.) covered for free? From what I understand it's $6500 deductible and then everything is basically free. If that's teh case, that plan (considering your monthly premium) is much cheaper than many company plans today (in totality).
    Nothing is covered until $6500 is paid. Nothing.

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    Okay so I didn't misinterpret. Once you've paid $6500 in medical fees... the rest of your fees are covered through insurance (I'm assuming for every calendar year). I'm also assuming this is per household?

    I don't really see that as outrageous.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,550
    https://youtu.be/OcKcjpSWmm0

    I dedicate this to president Bafoon. I'll be at the NY show !!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Tiki said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Tiki said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
    isn't it?

    In the event of something major... you've got coverage. And in the meantime... you're covered with the smaller items. No?

    The bigger question is the structure that allows for medical facilities and insurance leeches to charge so much. Health is an essential service. I'm really not too sure of allowing such price gouging on what ultimately is a monopoly.

    Doctors should be well paid- don't get me wrong. So should nurses. But I'm under the impression there are a lot of people far removed from patient care that have healthy bank accounts. Am I wrong?
    smaller things get buried with that 6500 deduct. I never go to the doctor
    I've misinterpreted here. Are you saying the 6500 is a per visit deductible? So, for typical stuff under 6500 you just pay and there is no insurance?
    Typical stuff under 6500 is paid for by me.
    However isn't some preventative care (like flu shots, annual exam, etc.) covered for free? From what I understand it's $6500 deductible and then everything is basically free. If that's teh case, that plan (considering your monthly premium) is much cheaper than many company plans today (in totality).
    Nothing is covered until $6500 is paid. Nothing.

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    Okay so I didn't misinterpret. Once you've paid $6500 in medical fees... the rest of your fees are covered through insurance (I'm assuming for every calendar year). I'm also assuming this is per household?

    I don't really see that as outrageous.
    It's per person
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    https://instagram.com/p/BQ5tgf1hmH5/embed/
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    josevolution said:

    https://youtu.be/OcKcjpSWmm0

    I dedicate this to president Bafoon. I'll be at the NY show !!!

    1988...
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    1988

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,550
    Tiki said:

    josevolution said:

    https://youtu.be/OcKcjpSWmm0

    I dedicate this to president Bafoon. I'll be at the NY show !!!

    1988...
    Still rings true today it fits perfectly!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    Tiki said:

    10 a.m.: President Donald Trump will deliver remarks at CPAC.

    11:40 a.m.: Trump will tape his weekly address in the State Dining Room.

    12:00 p.m.: Trump will sign an executive order.

    2:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Oval Office.

    3:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski of Peru in the Oval Office.

    All right Johnny boy...let's see what you're made of.

    Tiki said:

    10 a.m.: President Donald Trump will deliver remarks at CPAC.

    11:40 a.m.: Trump will tape his weekly address in the State Dining Room.

    12:00 p.m.: Trump will sign an executive order.

    2:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Oval Office.

    3:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski of Peru in the Oval Office.

    All right Johnny boy...let's see what you're made of.

    He'll just force Kasich to eat his meat loaf.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Go Beavers said:

    Tiki said:

    10 a.m.: President Donald Trump will deliver remarks at CPAC.

    11:40 a.m.: Trump will tape his weekly address in the State Dining Room.

    12:00 p.m.: Trump will sign an executive order.

    2:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Oval Office.

    3:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski of Peru in the Oval Office.

    All right Johnny boy...let's see what you're made of.

    Tiki said:

    10 a.m.: President Donald Trump will deliver remarks at CPAC.

    11:40 a.m.: Trump will tape his weekly address in the State Dining Room.

    12:00 p.m.: Trump will sign an executive order.

    2:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Oval Office.

    3:00 p.m.: Trump will meet with President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski of Peru in the Oval Office.

    All right Johnny boy...let's see what you're made of.

    He'll just force Kasich to eat his meat loaf.
    Trumploaf. Vomit
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    jeffbr said:

    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    lol
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited February 2017
    Here is the tender bid for the wall.
    http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/24/donald-trump-the-wall-homeland-security/
    http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/design-build-structure.pdf
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    jeffbr said:

    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    HAHAHA, idiots.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited February 2017
    jeffbr said:

    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    Fuck yes.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    jeffbr said:

    It looks like some CPAC attendees got punked and were given Russian flags to waive during Trump's speech there. :lol:



    Haha, so f'ing dumb.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,550
    I bet a couple of posters here will be waving those same flags on their flag poles at home !!! You know who you are ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    CNN, Politico, LA Times, and New York Times banned from WH press briefing this afternoon.
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