Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Well this interesting...

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/15/exclusive-shadowy-iranian-general-visits-moscow-violating-sanctions.html

    As I outlined earlier the goal right now should be to split Russia and Iran. If the cards are played right it might be possible...who knows. The problem is the Pro-Iranian Obama holdouts are against a tougher stand against Iran and would rather box in the new administration from working with Russia to this end.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    you getting desperate? because this is just silly

    I haven't seen anybody on the left, or anybody in general, say that military intervention is needed. you definitely didn't here that from me.

    I think Americans, which I am an American, don't want our white house controlled and compromised by Putin and the Kremlin. you, as a Canadian, are clearly comfortable with it

    for some reason you refuse to see what is happening right in front of your face. but like I said, i'm not wasting energy trying to change your mind.
  • BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
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  • mrussel1
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    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
  • mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
    Because we're not going to go to war with Russia over Crimea or Syria as much as BS would like us to. Does anyone expect or think that Russia would go to war with us over, say Mexico or El Salvador? Of course not, its our so called sphere of influence. But you know, those Sarah Palin acolytes would love to see the rapture, so there is that. And don't forget, Putin still has his nose out of whack for the humiliation that was Afghanistan. Paybacks a bitch.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
    Because we're not going to go to war with Russia over Crimea or Syria as much as BS would like us to. Does anyone expect or think that Russia would go to war with us over, say Mexico or El Salvador? Of course not, its our so called sphere of influence. But you know, those Sarah Palin acolytes would love to see the rapture, so there is that. And don't forget, Putin still has his nose out of whack for the humiliation that was Afghanistan. Paybacks a bitch.
    I didn't realize that was your point. Yes I agree that there is no war afoot with Russia over Crimea, Cuba or anywhere. War today iwth Russia is economic war and it's espionage.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    this clip makes me want to punch the smug little punk in the face

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2017
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
    Because we're not going to go to war with Russia over Crimea or Syria as much as BS would like us to. Does anyone expect or think that Russia would go to war with us over, say Mexico or El Salvador? Of course not, its our so called sphere of influence. But you know, those Sarah Palin acolytes would love to see the rapture, so there is that. And don't forget, Putin still has his nose out of whack for the humiliation that was Afghanistan. Paybacks a bitch.
    I didn't realize that was your point. Yes I agree that there is no war afoot with Russia over Crimea, Cuba or anywhere. War today iwth Russia is economic war and it's espionage.
    It's actually been mainly nothing for the last 8 years and very few on here have even cared. Other then you mrusell, who rightly have not been happy with Russian actions in the Ukraine and elsewhere, most everyone else have not actually given a damn or ever called for a tougher stance. Russia's behaviour only became a problem for these folk once Trump was elected...it's simple as that. I'm not looking for a war either but I'm simply proving that most Russia outrage on the AMT is phony. If Trump was gone everybody would be thrilled to continue with the status quo of unchecked Russian aggression. Romney called Russia the America's number one geopolitical threat and these people laughed. To them the number one geopolitical threat is Trump.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    I've said numerous times that China and Russia are the main reasons the world is still in such turmoil.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:
    That is dangerous shit right there. Good luck holding your country together if that pans out.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:
    That is dangerous shit right there. Good luck holding your country together if that pans out.
    what Ryan Adams? he's no threat.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:
    That is dangerous shit right there. Good luck holding your country together if that pans out.
    what Ryan Adams? he's no threat.
    It's Bryan Adams that's the problem. Cuts like a knife was about him shanking Trump in prison.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    mrussel1 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:
    That is dangerous shit right there. Good luck holding your country together if that pans out.
    what Ryan Adams? he's no threat.
    It's Bryan Adams that's the problem. Cuts like a knife was about him shanking Trump in prison.
    yes Bryan Adams is the fake Ryan Adams. Canadians are the problem. They infiltrate various message boards and basically have a good time laughing at the expense of the Americans. Ever heard of Manifest Destiny, Canada?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    vaggar99 said:
    That is dangerous shit right there. Good luck holding your country together if that pans out.
    what Ryan Adams? he's no threat.
    It's Bryan Adams that's the problem. Cuts like a knife was about him shanking Trump in prison.
    Bryan Adams is waaay better then Ryan Adams. Not even close.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
    Because we're not going to go to war with Russia over Crimea or Syria as much as BS would like us to. Does anyone expect or think that Russia would go to war with us over, say Mexico or El Salvador? Of course not, its our so called sphere of influence. But you know, those Sarah Palin acolytes would love to see the rapture, so there is that. And don't forget, Putin still has his nose out of whack for the humiliation that was Afghanistan. Paybacks a bitch.
    I didn't realize that was your point. Yes I agree that there is no war afoot with Russia over Crimea, Cuba or anywhere. War today iwth Russia is economic war and it's espionage.
    It's actually been mainly nothing for the last 8 years and very few on here have even cared. Other then you mrusell, who rightly have not been happy with Russian actions in the Ukraine and elsewhere, most everyone else have not actually given a damn or ever called for a tougher stance. Russia's behaviour only became a problem for these folk once Trump was elected...it's simple as that. I'm not looking for a war either but I'm simply proving that most Russia outrage on the AMT is phony. If Trump was gone everybody would be thrilled to continue with the status quo of unchecked Russian aggression. Romney called Russia the America's number one geopolitical threat and these people laughed. To them the number one geopolitical threat is Trump.
    There have been plenty of threads about Russia and Putin over the years on AMT. Can't remember you around for any of those.

    You have a real AMT revisionist history thing happening.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well at least it looks like anti-russian hawks are gaining the upper hand in the administration which is ok with me. Glad that going forward we'll all be on the same page when it is time to hit russia hard.

    who said anything about "hitting them hard"? which I assume you mean military action with that language?

    I just don't want our president and his cronies on the Kremlin payroll or to be completely compromised. pretty simple.
    Woah woah woah. I thought you were all outraged! Today I am reading that Russian actions in your elections was as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9/11! An attack such as that along with spy ships on the east coast and military jets buzzing your planes plus further destabilization in Ukraine will have to require a military response! You don't want puppet Trump to just let Putin roll all over you and the world do you? Clearly you want Russian actions checked beyond the sanctions already in place don't you? Is this only about Trump or do you want to put Russia in their place? C'mon man! Do you not care? Are you a russian puppet as well? Do I need to follow the money?
    BS, you should know that America only takes on weak states. You really expect the US to take on a nuclear power? That would be a fair fight. See Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, et al. Also see Soviet Union, KAL 007, China, Tiannam Square Bush I, seizure of E3, surrvielence aircraft Bush II. You must be Crimean, like Senator McCain?

    And yes, you do need to follow the money.
    The Cold War was a proxy battle of nuclear powers. There was only one country equal to us and that was the Soviet Union. And fortunately neither super power unleashed a nuclear bomb. Don't forget General MacArthur advocated for nuking Korea until Truman relieved him of his duties (rightfully). So I'm not really following your point here. And McCain is right to advocate on behalf of the Ukrainians.
    Because we're not going to go to war with Russia over Crimea or Syria as much as BS would like us to. Does anyone expect or think that Russia would go to war with us over, say Mexico or El Salvador? Of course not, its our so called sphere of influence. But you know, those Sarah Palin acolytes would love to see the rapture, so there is that. And don't forget, Putin still has his nose out of whack for the humiliation that was Afghanistan. Paybacks a bitch.
    I didn't realize that was your point. Yes I agree that there is no war afoot with Russia over Crimea, Cuba or anywhere. War today iwth Russia is economic war and it's espionage.
    It's actually been mainly nothing for the last 8 years and very few on here have even cared. Other then you mrusell, who rightly have not been happy with Russian actions in the Ukraine and elsewhere, most everyone else have not actually given a damn or ever called for a tougher stance. Russia's behaviour only became a problem for these folk once Trump was elected...it's simple as that. I'm not looking for a war either but I'm simply proving that most Russia outrage on the AMT is phony. If Trump was gone everybody would be thrilled to continue with the status quo of unchecked Russian aggression. Romney called Russia the America's number one geopolitical threat and these people laughed. To them the number one geopolitical threat is Trump.
    My so-called "outrage" isn't phony. I'm new to the AMT, but have been on the boards for years.
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