Steve Bannon

Kat said:

Another kind of victory...a really good one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/subway-riders-clean-swastikas_us_589728a8e4b0c1284f265adb?

Well that kind of public reaction is sure to piss off president bannon.
And some people on here as well..

I just came here to post that very thing, @kat. That's absolutely horrifying.

Kat said:

On the road to apocalyptic war?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-apocalypse_us_5898f02ee4b040613138a951?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Here is the danger of Bannon and his radical thought process. I'm loathe to create "Hitler" comparisons, but there are very real comparisons that are appropriate that have nothing to do with the Holocaust or fascism itself. When a person or gov't believes that a war is inevitable, they stop trying to de-escalate a war and begin preparing for the war. And eventually they do something to precipitate the war. Bannon believes a reckoning is coming. There is a political and cultural re-orientation happening here and around the world. It's a common thought among the radical right that has grown ever since Ruby Ridge and Waco. This is a war against leftist elitists, Chinese, the Muslims, globalists. This war is coming and we must prepared and then we have to take the fight to them.

This is exactly the mindset that Hitler brought to Germany in the 1930s. The Soviets were the enemy, the Untermensch. Hitler had no interest in avoiding the war, he wanted to prepare and then take the war to the Soviets and Communism. The result, obviously, was that 15 years later the Soviets were camped in Berlin. The same mindset permeated the Austro-Hungrarians and in Paris in 1914. When you stop avoiding and negotiating and begin preparing, that's when the risk rises immensely.

This is what really worries me about Bannon's influence in the Oval Office.

ledvedderman said:

I just came here to post that very thing, @kat. That's absolutely horrifying.

yes it is.

Kat said:

mrussel1 said:

Kat said:

On the road to apocalyptic war?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-apocalypse_us_5898f02ee4b040613138a951?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Here is the danger of Bannon and his radical thought process. I'm loathe to create "Hitler" comparisons, but there are very real comparisons that are appropriate that have nothing to do with the Holocaust or fascism itself. When a person or gov't believes that a war is inevitable, they stop trying to de-escalate a war and begin preparing for the war. And eventually they do something to precipitate the war. Bannon believes a reckoning is coming. There is a political and cultural re-orientation happening here and around the world. It's a common thought among the radical right that has grown ever since Ruby Ridge and Waco. This is a war against leftist elitists, Chinese, the Muslims, globalists. This war is coming and we must prepared and then we have to take the fight to them.

This is exactly the mindset that Hitler brought to Germany in the 1930s. The Soviets were the enemy, the Untermensch. Hitler had no interest in avoiding the war, he wanted to prepare and then take the war to the Soviets and Communism. The result, obviously, was that 15 years later the Soviets were camped in Berlin. The same mindset permeated the Austro-Hungrarians and in Paris in 1914. When you stop avoiding and negotiating and begin preparing, that's when the risk rises immensely.

This is what really worries me about Bannon's influence in the Oval Office.

I think we have to learn from history and not ignore the similarities here. There *are* very real comparisons and it's important to call them out. After all, most people living now weren't here for WWII...and many don't really study history so they don't know. It's important to talk about it so people will know.

And I think the public mocking the Bannon influence is really good. Trump is so thin skinned that cartoons like the one you posted might just be effective. Perhaps they will cause a rift and force the exile of Bannon. We can only hope.

jeffbr said:

Kat said:

Trump says he calls his own shots...hates this type of cartoon. Tweet it often and maybe Bannon will be gone.

http://theoutfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/C3bV6qLUoAEgLrb-1024x1024.jpg

I love this. And if he's calling all of his own shots as he says he is, why did Prebus have to create a 10 point checklist for executive orders to make sure Trump was properly briefed earlier in the process so he wouldn't be surprised by things like giving Bannon a seat on the National Security Council?

I have reposted this cartoon in a couple of places now. I think it is right on point.

Aside from the fact that the slob is in a suit rather than rumpled khakis and sweaters...

jeffbr said:

Kat said:

Trump says he calls his own shots...hates this type of cartoon. Tweet it often and maybe Bannon will be gone.

http://theoutfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/C3bV6qLUoAEgLrb-1024x1024.jpg

I love this. And if he's calling all of his own shots as he says he is, why did Prebus have to create a 10 point checklist for executive orders to make sure Trump was properly briefed earlier in the process so he wouldn't be surprised by things like giving Bannon a seat on the National Security Council?

I have reposted this cartoon in a couple of places now. I think it is right on point.

I looked for your post but couldn't remember who posted the link....and you'd think he'd un-executive order his order, wouldn't you?

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mfc2006 said:

ledvedderman said:

I just came here to post that very thing, @kat. That's absolutely horrifying.

yes it is.

A little dramatic. Horrifying?

And speaking to the cartoon there would be outrage on here from many if it was Monica Lewinsky with Hillary Clinton depicted instead and the word boy substituted with girl.

Wait...what does this even mean?

That's what I'm trying to figure out as well.

Kat said:

jeffbr said:

Kat said:

Trump says he calls his own shots...hates this type of cartoon. Tweet it often and maybe Bannon will be gone.

http://theoutfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/C3bV6qLUoAEgLrb-1024x1024.jpg

I love this. And if he's calling all of his own shots as he says he is, why did Prebus have to create a 10 point checklist for executive orders to make sure Trump was properly briefed earlier in the process so he wouldn't be surprised by things like giving Bannon a seat on the National Security Council?

I have reposted this cartoon in a couple of places now. I think it is right on point.

I looked for your post but couldn't remember who posted the link....and you'd think he'd un-executive order his order, wouldn't you?

Sorry, I meant I have posted this in a couple of other places (other than this site). I agree that if Trump was so troubled by what his executive order actually did he certainly has every opportunity to rescind it.