Boycott American goods - everyone outside the US

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,431
    mace1229 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Philip_Ireland said:



    "What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?"

    You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
    This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.

    Over the years there have been a handful of people who have paid to have access to these boards but only post in AMT. They are all clearly against all of the values that the members of Pearl Jam have publicly espoused.
    They have been racist, homophobic, anti-semitic,xenophobic, mysoginistic, white supremecists, etc etc.

    Never understood the people who pay to be here and only post a rhetoric of fear, hate, and ignorance while clearly not being Pearl Jam fans.
    Is it your conclusion that someone is not a Pearl Jam fan if they don't agree with the majority of their political views? Otherwise how/why do you state they are clearly not fans?
    mcgruff10 said:

    Annafalk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Philip_Ireland said:


    LongestRoad said:

    What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?

    You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
    This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.



    Which show did you see? Just curious to check out a show that a fan thought wasn't very good. I'm sure PJ has had bad shows in their long career, just curious to see an example.
    We are in the "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion" thread. Please talk about the quality of shows elsewhere. I intended this to be a comment on American industry not cullture
    Why don't you just tell me which show it was? :confused: I just wanted to check it out.
    I so agree with PJ_Soul, it's interesting that you can't even deliver an answer.
    I do find it odd that non pearl jam fans post on a pearl jam message board. very very weird.
    Even weirder is that they pay for the privilege
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    edited February 2017
    bootlegger10 said:

    pjhawks said:

    unsung said:

    Hopefully a few of these trade deals get eliminated and we can get some jobs back.

    do you really think manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US?
    There are a ton of manufacturing jobs here now. We just have so many unqualified people in this country that can't show up to work two days in a row or pass a drug test because they like Meth too much in the Midwest.
    You forgot heroin. You better get your shit straight... just kidding. :tongue:
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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    As long as I can still get my Kerry Gold butter from the green isle
    Philip_Ireland said:

    As hard as it sounds, please stand up to this bullying by the US president- shop local, buy local, try only buy things made outside of the US

  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited February 2017
    It's already happening - good stuff. Tourism is huge - this will have a big impact. Get rid of this "Fanta faced facist"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Philip_Ireland said:

    It's already happening - good stuff

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    One of my coworkers cancelled a vacation to the US in the wake of the travel ban. She would not have been directly affected, as a non-Muslim Canadian, but said she would refuse to travel to the US while the policy stood.
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  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited February 2017
    oftenreading said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    It's already happening - good stuff

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    One of my coworkers cancelled a vacation to the US in the wake of the travel ban. She would not have been directly affected, as a non-Muslim Canadian, but said she would refuse to travel to the US while the policy stood.
    Yes, exactly - this guys policies were meant to create "Jobs for Americans" Tourism is huge - a lot of jobs could be on the line because of this guys idiotic decisions.
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  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited February 2017
    Annafalk said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    As hard as it sounds, please stand up to this bullying by the US president- shop local, buy local, try only buy things made outside of the US

    Stop embarrassing yourself, Americans are friendly and cool people, I don't want to boycott them.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    Thankfully it's not just me Annafalk! There must be a lot of embarrassed people out there( But all the better for it).
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited February 2017
    Philip_Ireland said:

    Annafalk said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    As hard as it sounds, please stand up to this bullying by the US president- shop local, buy local, try only buy things made outside of the US

    Stop embarrassing yourself, Americans are friendly and cool people, I don't want to boycott them.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    Thankfully it's not just me Annafalk! There must be a lot of embarrassed people out there( But all the better for it).
    Politicians must lead their country the way they think is best for their country. Anyone can boycott if they feel it doesn't rimes well with their beliefs it's ok. Once again I'm sorry I said you should stop embarrassing yourself, it was wrong of me.
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    bootlegger10 said:

    tbergs said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    pjhawks said:

    unsung said:

    Hopefully a few of these trade deals get eliminated and we can get some jobs back.

    do you really think manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US?
    There are a ton of manufacturing jobs here now. We just have so many unqualified people in this country that can't show up to work two days in a row or pass a drug test because they like Meth too much in the Midwest.
    That's an interesting assessment. So we have a bunch of unqualified meth heads killing our manufacturing production?
    No, just saying there are a lot of job openings at manufacturing companies. They struggle finding qualified people. I talk with a lot of manufacturing companies and they all tell me they could hire 10 people right now but can't find them.
    One of the many reasons that if manufacturing companies return they will be largely automated.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    Philip_Ireland said:

    It's already happening - good stuff. Tourism is huge - this will have a big impact. Get rid of this "Fanta faced facist"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    Was talked about at work. Some guy who visits New York alot choose London instead this time, and another was questioning her Florida trip this summer.

    Did the tourism (from other countries) get affected during the W Bush years?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,481
    Got my answer:

    “We have seen negative perceptions impact tourism to the US in the past, particularly around the time of the invasion of Iraq and the post-9/11 ramping up of border security,” said a spokesperson for the World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC).
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    question..is it fair to boycott Ivanka brands?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Philip_Ireland said:

    Annafalk said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    As hard as it sounds, please stand up to this bullying by the US president- shop local, buy local, try only buy things made outside of the US

    Stop embarrassing yourself, Americans are friendly and cool people, I don't want to boycott them.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    Thankfully it's not just me Annafalk! There must be a lot of embarrassed people out there( But all the better for it).
    Hey did you ever tell what shows were bad?

    Let me share one with you: Soundgarden at the QE in Vancouver. Horrible. Terrible sound and it looked as if the band played while having stomach flus.

    So yah. What about yours?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,431
    vaggar99 said:

    question..is it fair to boycott Ivanka brands?

    Absofreakinlutely
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    bootlegger10 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    So what was the beef with Uber? They helped people get to and from the airport?

    Oh the humanity!

    As a Trump opposer, I was (and am) disappointed in the Uber ban movement. It was reactionary and thought without consequence, which is the very thing we are opposed to with Trump and his words, actions, and policies.
    The New York taxi drivers union joined the immigration ban protests by going on an hour-long strike. During this hour, Uber - whose CEO is on Trump's economic advisory committee - stated they would suspend peak pricing and many took that as a sleight to the taxi union and as support of Trump's immigration ban. Lyft then pledged to donate $1million to the ACLU and everyone started deleting Uber and downloading and using Lyft.
    Uber's CEO has since spoke out against the executive order and stated they did not intend to break up the strike. They've also pledged to put $3million into a legal fund to help drivers affected by the ban and are offering immigration assistance to any affected employees.
    Did Lyft suspend its services? No. Are they just donating $1,000,000 because they see blood in the water around Uber? Yes.

    Are we to the point that if you don't shut down your business it means that you are a supporter of whatever law someone else is protesting and are subject to a boycott? The taxi cab drivers decided to make a statement. That doesn't bind Uber to be required to follow their lead whether they support the law or not. This is a scary time. This is why the left scares me so much.
    At the end of the day, consumers make the decisions. Simple as that. If consumers want to make decisions based on politics, that is fair game IMO. There are much better things to be scared about than liberals voicing their opinions through their wallets. If anything, that is the most democratic thing anyone in America can do in a capitalist society.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    vaggar99 said:

    question..is it fair to boycott Ivanka brands?

    You can boycott whatever your conscience tells you to boycott. I was never going to buy Ivanka brand clothing anyway so it makes no difference; however, I don't hold her responsible for Donald and his actions.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    oftenreading said:

    vaggar99 said:

    question..is it fair to boycott Ivanka brands?

    You can boycott whatever your conscience tells you to boycott. I was never going to buy Ivanka brand clothing anyway so it makes no difference; however, I don't hold her responsible for Donald and his actions.
    i'll rationalize by the fact that she has a seat in the administration. otherwise, i would say it's unfair. boycott away. i'm pretty sure her fashion lines are just not very popular among women to begin with
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    rgambs said:

    PJPOWER said:

    I think I'll join in and start boycotting Mexican goods as well. I can grow chili peppers in my own garden. No need to buy a vehicle at this point...think I'm good on most everything else.

    If you are a serious gardener or even consumer, you know that almost all of our out of season produce is from Mexico, and it is no laughing matter.
    And our entire agricultural system would collapse without our exploited migrant work force.
  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited February 2017
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    Annafalk said:

    Philip_Ireland said:

    As hard as it sounds, please stand up to this bullying by the US president- shop local, buy local, try only buy things made outside of the US

    Stop embarrassing yourself, Americans are friendly and cool people, I don't want to boycott them.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/articles/trump-travel-ban-has-casts-a-shadow-over-us-tourism/

    Thankfully it's not just me Annafalk! There must be a lot of embarrassed people out there( But all the better for it).
    Hey did you ever tell what shows were bad?

    Let me share one with you: Soundgarden at the QE in Vancouver. Horrible. Terrible sound and it looked as if the band played while having stomach flus.

    So yah. What about yours?
    This was one of them - Dublin 1996




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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    oftenreading said:

    vaggar99 said:

    question..is it fair to boycott Ivanka brands?

    You can boycott whatever your conscience tells you to boycott. I was never going to buy Ivanka brand clothing anyway so it makes no difference; however, I don't hold her responsible for Donald and his actions.
    One thing I will say about boycotts is that they weren't designed to be fair - they were designed to exert pressure and produce change. The whole premise is to expedite pressure by making a population feel the weight of the actions of its administration.
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