Springsteen at Australia Concert: 'We Stand Before You Embarrassed Americans'

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:

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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner.
    I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.

    Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
    Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
    Nope - just that he should use different words.
    Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".

    Free =\= your perception of an issue
    Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
    You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.

    What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
    As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
    What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed.
    And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
    Got a link to the $1.2B campaign spend?
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    Can't defend so troll.
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  • JC29856
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    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    The thing is, if you don't want your political musicians to not be political, it's your problem not theirs.

    I don't think it's the politics I think it's the consistency.

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2017
    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    The thing is, if you don't want your political musicians to not be political, it's your problem not theirs.

    I don't think it's the politics I think it's the consistency.

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    Oh so talking about peace is ok but talking about war pigs and dictators has to be consistent.

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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Anyone like some pizza?
  • Free
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    edited February 2017
    I see you cozying up to Jeff there, wouldn't you know, I bet 99% he's embarrassed for America too.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Free said:

    I see you cozying up to Jeff there, wouldn't you know, I bet 99% he's embarrassed for America too.

    Yeah, but he's smart enough to keep his mouth closed....
  • JC29856
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    Free said:

    I see you cozying up to Jeff there, wouldn't you know, I bet 99% he's embarrassed for America too.

    I didn't even know that was Mr Ament, using a phone, now I get the one post.
    Well that's embarrassing!
  • ledvedderman
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    Actually, next to Ed, Jeff is by far the most politically outspoken.
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  • buck502000
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    ledvedderman said:

    Actually, next to Ed, Jeff is by far the most politically outspoken.

    If I saw Bruce, I would take a picture with him also. But then I would ask, why did you say those things in Australia?
  • ledvedderman
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    And he'd give you an eloquent, well thought out answer about why he did it. I hope then you could shake his hand, say you're a fan, say you disagree but it's cool because we aren't fucking kindergarteners who disrespect others with another opinion.
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  • HesCalledDyer
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    buck502000 said:

    Anyone like some pizza?

    Oh for goodness' sake.
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  • my2hands
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    Feel free to ship me a Benny & Binaural if you have them, because we all know what's coming on the next PJ tour *popcorn emoji*
    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    There is nothing any of you could say that would hurt MY feelings. I am an adult with MY own opinions. I like that the United States is supposedly a land where free speech is allowed/encouraged. I would never say I was embarrassed to be an American. That is down-right un-patriotic. Bruce can go piss up a rope....

    Hey man, I'll say it. I'm embarrassed by this president and I don't give a damn if that makes you question my patriotism. I know that I love my country deeply and that I'm fortunate to been born here. But part of being patriotic is calling out bullshit when you see it. Sorry that you're so in love with America that you don't see the flaws.

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess you weren't always behind President Obama 100%... but I'm sure you were still a patriot in your eyes.

    I moved to Europe for the last 2 years of Obamas term. I didn't agree with much of what he did, but I kept my thoughts to myself and definitely didn't bash others when stated they supported him. I suggest Trump dissenters try some civility as well....
    You moved to Europe because if Obama?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    ledvedderman said:

    And he'd give you an eloquent, well thought out answer about why he did it. I hope then you could shake his hand, say you're a fan, say you disagree but it's cool because we aren't fucking kindergarteners who disrespect others with another opinion.

    Wait....what?
  • buck502000
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    my2hands said:

    Feel free to ship me a Benny & Binaural if you have them, because we all know what's coming on the next PJ tour *popcorn emoji*

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    There is nothing any of you could say that would hurt MY feelings. I am an adult with MY own opinions. I like that the United States is supposedly a land where free speech is allowed/encouraged. I would never say I was embarrassed to be an American. That is down-right un-patriotic. Bruce can go piss up a rope....

    Hey man, I'll say it. I'm embarrassed by this president and I don't give a damn if that makes you question my patriotism. I know that I love my country deeply and that I'm fortunate to been born here. But part of being patriotic is calling out bullshit when you see it. Sorry that you're so in love with America that you don't see the flaws.

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess you weren't always behind President Obama 100%... but I'm sure you were still a patriot in your eyes.

    I moved to Europe for the last 2 years of Obamas term. I didn't agree with much of what he did, but I kept my thoughts to myself and definitely didn't bash others when stated they supported him. I suggest Trump dissenters try some civility as well....
    You moved to Europe because if Obama?
    Not entirely, but I was not happy with the United States and the way it was going. It was just another reason.
  • JC29856
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    edited February 2017
    my2hands said:

    Feel free to ship me a Benny & Binaural if you have them, because we all know what's coming on the next PJ tour *popcorn emoji*

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    There is nothing any of you could say that would hurt MY feelings. I am an adult with MY own opinions. I like that the United States is supposedly a land where free speech is allowed/encouraged. I would never say I was embarrassed to be an American. That is down-right un-patriotic. Bruce can go piss up a rope....

    Hey man, I'll say it. I'm embarrassed by this president and I don't give a damn if that makes you question my patriotism. I know that I love my country deeply and that I'm fortunate to been born here. But part of being patriotic is calling out bullshit when you see it. Sorry that you're so in love with America that you don't see the flaws.

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess you weren't always behind President Obama 100%... but I'm sure you were still a patriot in your eyes.

    I moved to Europe for the last 2 years of Obamas term. I didn't agree with much of what he did, but I kept my thoughts to myself and definitely didn't bash others when stated they supported him. I suggest Trump dissenters try some civility as well....
    You moved to Europe because if Obama?
    I'm guessing for the paid maternity leave and free healthcare.
  • buck502000
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    HesCalledDyer said:

    buck502000 said:

    Anyone like some pizza?

    Oh for goodness' sake.
    It's real and a lot of things will come to light that are sickening.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    JC29856 said:

    my2hands said:

    Feel free to ship me a Benny & Binaural if you have them, because we all know what's coming on the next PJ tour *popcorn emoji*

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    There is nothing any of you could say that would hurt MY feelings. I am an adult with MY own opinions. I like that the United States is supposedly a land where free speech is allowed/encouraged. I would never say I was embarrassed to be an American. That is down-right un-patriotic. Bruce can go piss up a rope....

    Hey man, I'll say it. I'm embarrassed by this president and I don't give a damn if that makes you question my patriotism. I know that I love my country deeply and that I'm fortunate to been born here. But part of being patriotic is calling out bullshit when you see it. Sorry that you're so in love with America that you don't see the flaws.

    I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess you weren't always behind President Obama 100%... but I'm sure you were still a patriot in your eyes.

    I moved to Europe for the last 2 years of Obamas term. I didn't agree with much of what he did, but I kept my thoughts to myself and definitely didn't bash others when stated they supported him. I suggest Trump dissenters try some civility as well....
    You moved to Europe because if Obama?
    I'm guessing for the paid maternity leave and free healthcare.
    No :) I didn't miss the shitty news and poor educational system (common core) when we were gone.
  • ledvedderman
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    Pizza? What the hell did I miss? Is this Comet pizza again?
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  • buck502000
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    ledvedderman said:

    Pizza? What the hell did I miss? Is this Comet pizza again?

    It's real, and not up for debate. Just wait.
  • JC29856
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    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Pizza? What the hell did I miss? Is this Comet pizza again?

    It's real, and not up for debate. Just wait.
    I hope your kidding... Fbi just dropped some more Clinton files, no kidding.

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