Good bye Pearl Jam community

caifan82
caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
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Hello everyone!
Most of you don't know me. Since I've joined the fan club, I've been mostly a lurker in this forum. I made this post to say goodbye to all of you because I've decided I won't be renewing my membership. Not because of money issues, or disappointment with the band... But because I can't, in good conscience, contribute to anything that will pay taxes to the Trump administration.
This is a first step, I know it won't be easy at all ( how the hell am I going to live without Netflix!?), probably impossible, but I'll try my best.
This means, amongst many other things, no more buying Pearl Jam stuff and, sadly, when they come back to Mexico for gigs, I won't be attending... At least for the next 4 years.
Although the band hasn't publicly condemned Trump yet, I'm pretty confident they don't agree with him. Of course I still love them and I'll still play my old CDs and vinyls, but I won't pay for any new stuff that will help finance a racist, misogynistic and xenophobic administration. An administration that seems to have a personal vendetta, and a desire to humiliate the country where me and my family live. And I want to assure you: I have NOTHING against Americans in general, and I hope your lives and businesses prosper for the next few years.

Anyway, I know most of you won't care since you don't even know me (and a couple others, that won't be named, will be glad there's one less Mexican here), but this is a post for the few that will. It's not OK how Trump is treating his southern neighbor. Build a 100 meters tall wall if you want. It's your country. But that obsession with having to humiliate a poorer, less powerful country is , well, frightening to everyone down here.

So, cheers! I've had a blast reading through countless threads all this time. And I'll hopefully read you again in 4 years!
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,922
    I hope you take solace in that fact that many Americans do not support this wall and do not support our current President and many of his ideals. I hope PJ comes to your neck of the woods and you get to enjoy them from home.
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    This is sad to read. Don't let Trump get your mood down.
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Well I thought I've read it all..good luck to you.
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Good luck, caifan82. Hope to see you back here at some point. And take comfort in knowing that most Americans didn't vote for Trump, and most Americans disagree with his policies, so many of us are feeling as despondent as you are. See you back here in 4 years!
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    jeffbr said:

    Good luck, caifan82. Hope to see you back here at some point. And take comfort in knowing that most Americans didn't vote for Trump, and most Americans disagree with his policies, so many of us are feeling as despondent as you are. See you back here in 4 years!

    well said!!!

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  • Fifthelement
    Fifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,965
    Caifan82, hello and goodbye. I'm sorry we didn't get to know you better. I, too, spend more time lurking than posting. I applaud you for taking a stand. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see you at a PJ show sometime in the future.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited January 2017
    Too bad you're leaving - I totally get why. It never occurred to me that those boycotting American products would have to give up the music too. :frowning:
    Do you know how strong the movement to boycott all things American is in Mexico? Strong enough to actually have a noticeable economic impact on America? If so, that's probably a good thing. It might actually teach Trump and supporters how harmful his rabid isolationism and poor foreign relations tactics are.
    Canada is pretty worried too for a few reasons, but Mexico is in a whole different pot of disturbing as far as Trump's bullshit goes.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    jeffbr said:

    Good luck, caifan82. Hope to see you back here at some point. And take comfort in knowing that most Americans didn't vote for Trump, and most Americans disagree with his policies, so many of us are feeling as despondent as you are. See you back here in 4 years!

    +1

    Be well and take care!
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Good for you. Good luck. The majority of us feel the same way
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Kudos for giving up a few passions to protest trump. Hope to see you back soon.
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  • FoxyRedLa
    FoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    I repeat everything here! Nice to meet you, take care.
    Oh please let it rain today.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Take care OP.
    PS: Are you going to live in a cave now?
  • oceaninmyeyes
    oceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    edited January 2017
    I am sorry you are leaving, but I am happy that you are standing up for yourself and your country. I watched a report on BBC about a young teacher who taught in Chicago and then moved to Mexico City. He was having a hard time knowing what to say to reassure his students. Know that the current government administration is not representative of the majority of our citizens. I look forward to the day when you can rejoin us.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Take care OP.
    PS: Are you going to live in a cave now?

    Just had to add the PS, didn't you?

    Good luck, OP.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,431
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Take care OP.
    PS: Are you going to live in a cave now?

    Another intelligent, thoughtful, and mature response from you.
    No wonder you're a fan of the current U.S. president.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Annafalk said:

    This is sad to read. Don't let Trump get your mood down.

    I agree, one CAN NOT let the election of one man Trump get you down to this point. The US WILL survive this and "believe me" there's a reason this has happened in this country's life.

    Just today my client's grandson a twin was selected for a prestigious President's Scholar's award out of 3 million students. He has accepted to attend Brown University along with his twin but says if he wins he will refuse to go to the White House to meet the President. I talked to him and told him GO.....It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Accept the award and shake his hand however it's the hand that you may not see that you have to watch out for. He laughed and I think he got my point.....He can't hurt YOU, even though he may hurt the country try to not let him EVER spoil your dreams.

    Be back in four he won't last past that being President is a 24/7 job, something he's not used to.

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  • g under p
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    ledvedderman said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Take care OP.
    PS: Are you going to live in a cave now?

    Just had to add the PS, didn't you?

    Good luck, OP.
    That dude is truly a troll, get over it they're some folks who don't like the President period.

    Peace
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    g under p said:

    Annafalk said:

    This is sad to read. Don't let Trump get your mood down.

    I agree, one CAN NOT let the election of one man Trump get you down to this point. The US WILL survive this and "believe me" there's a reason this has happened in this country's life.

    Just today my client's grandson a twin was selected for a prestigious President's Scholar's award out of 3 million students. He has accepted to attend Brown University along with his twin but says if he wins he will refuse to go to the White House to meet the President. I talked to him and told him GO.....It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Accept the award and shake his hand however it's the hand that you may not see that you have to watch out for. He laughed and I think he got my point.....He can't hurt YOU, even though he may hurt the country try to not let him EVER spoil your dreams.

    Be back in four he won't last past that being President is a 24/7 job, something he's not used to.

    Peace
    Massive respect to this kid if he refuses to go and shake Trump's hand. To me, that's a better story to tell years from now then actually going. Who knows, perhaps he will be impeached by the time of the trip anyway.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Just ask 10C if you can deduct your $1 contribution.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    All the best to the OP! See you in four years.
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