1st Women's March January 21, 2017. 3rd Women's March January 19, 2019
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They don't watch Fox News. If you read my post you would see that I said I have MSNBC on most of the time and they probably don't even pay attention. They don't watch any cable news really...most 12 and 14 year olds don't.Free said:Your daughters watch Fox News. That's enough info.
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I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:
https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
Game, set, and match.
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Everything you had to say about the march, or rather your daughters had to say, was negative. That says everything.BS44325 said:
They don't watch Fox News. If you read my post you would see that I said I have MSNBC on most of the time and they probably don't even pay attention. They don't watch any cable news really...most 12 and 14 year olds don't.Free said:Your daughters watch Fox News. That's enough info.
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... and what channel is this?BS44325 said:
I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
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I see it as a humanity issue as well as a divisive one., not just in the US, but yes, the females here should be important. The entire March was about unity yet you have people on here talking about how bad it was, and that is from the comfort of their La-Z-Boy in America or abroad. Either we want to understand or we don't want to understand. It's a simple as that, some of us just don't have any empathy, or they just don't care.Ms. Haiku said:I worry more about US daughters not understanding the march versus daughters in other countries. 53% of white women voters voted for Trump, which is more worrisome than parents in other countries raising kids who may not vote in the US.
It was off-the-chart awesome that marchers in other countries supported the quest of millions of US women. I may wear a black armband on March 8 to support Irish Feminists who may strike and wear black armbands.0 -
Not sure. MSNBC and CNN I believe showed it live but they didn't see it then. Her comments were pretty much covered everywhere and have been all over the internet. I am not sure what point you are trying to prove but I would hope that you would support a women's right to think for herself. It seems that this concept troubles you?Free said:
... and what channel is this?BS44325 said:
I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
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What's troubling is your lack of acknowledging your influence.BS44325 said:
Not sure. MSNBC and CNN I believe showed it live but they didn't see it then. Her comments were pretty much covered everywhere and have been all over the internet. I am not sure what point you are trying to prove but I would hope that you would support a women's right to think for herself. It seems that this concept troubles you?Free said:
... and what channel is this?BS44325 said:
I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
Game, set, and match.
And if the media is highlighting the negative points for Madonna's speech? Rather than the entire speech which was about love? HmmmPost edited by Free on0 -
I didn't watch any of it live, but honestly if I had, I would have totally just gone out for a walk or something with my kiddo when the train wrecks started coming forth...Free said:
What's troubling is your lack of acknowledging your influence.BS44325 said:
Not sure. MSNBC and CNN I believe showed it live but they didn't see it then. Her comments were pretty much covered everywhere and have been all over the internet. I am not sure what point you are trying to prove but I would hope that you would support a women's right to think for herself. It seems that this concept troubles you?Free said:
... and what channel is this?BS44325 said:
I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
Game, set, and match.
And if the media is highlighting the negative points for Madonna's speech? Rather than the entire speech which was about love? HmmmPost edited by PJPOWER on0 -
I was angered by her speech at first, thinking it was counter-productive to the message. then I sought out the whole clip for myself, and found it, and it made a total difference. all the media I saw was only covering the one statement, and that's shameful.Free said:
What's troubling is your lack of acknowledging your influence.BS44325 said:
Not sure. MSNBC and CNN I believe showed it live but they didn't see it then. Her comments were pretty much covered everywhere and have been all over the internet. I am not sure what point you are trying to prove but I would hope that you would support a women's right to think for herself. It seems that this concept troubles you?Free said:
... and what channel is this?BS44325 said:
I don't think it was the whole clip just the choice words. I guess you can make an argument about context but I don't think Madonna covered herself in glory no matter which way you slice it.HughFreakingDillon said:
I can't watch the video you posted while at work, but was it Madonna talking about blowing up the white house? did they see the FULL clip, where she says "yes, I have thought about it.....but I'm here to promote love...." and the actual message was that love trumps hate. I can see why everyone is jumping all over madonna for those comments, because all they saw was the first part about blowing up the WH.BS44325 said:
That's fair but for the record on this topic I gave them the marchers point of view...I play devils advocate with them all the time just to get them to think. Now certainly I didn't give them the marchers point of view with any level of intensity but I didn't show any disdain for the march either. This came from their own mouths and whether it was absorbed from me or their mother or someone at school is irrelevant...the march did not generate any real empathy in them and in some respects the clips they saw (summed up in the video I posted) pushed them away. The point being that while the march was very impressive in numbers it may not have achieve it's intended goal. It might in fact have done the opposite.tbergs said:
I get your point BS, but you do influence them by how you do or don't answer and discuss topics. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that because we all do it, intentional or not. If you had been supportive of the march from your own perspective you would answer their questions differently and in more detail because you want them to fully understand it, but if you don't agree or aren't quite sure, your answer is more vague and less informative for them to comprehend the reasons.BS44325 said:
Well I haven't said that they are smarter. I only have said that they have a different opinion. A free country allows for that. You claim to be all about hope and optimism and the need for a free media but when it comes to thought you are as facist as they come.Free said:
So you think that they're so much smarter than the marchers, in a different country, under a different rule... but they think the largest protest in US history should give him a chance, an admitted pussy grabber, and so much more. ( just look at what's happened since Friday). Clearly they don't understand. But go ahead, let them judge A huge diverse group of people and while you're at it, I'm sure your influence is there.BS44325 said:
Yes. It started when they saw some women carrying signs in Toronto. They said "why are they marching? They don't live in the states? Who cares?". To which I said "they are showing support for women in the states". To which they said "Trump won and he hasn't even done anything yet...they should give him a chance". I said "they are worried he will take away their right" and they thought that was just ridiculous. I gave them the view point of the marchers and they didn't buy it. Later they saw clips of madonna and ashley judd and they thought they were nuts.HughFreakingDillon said:
you said they were laughing at the marchers.BS44325 said:
They have a mother who competes in crossfit competitions in her spare time. They get plenty of empowerment. Sorry that they find foul-mouthed aging rock stars desparate for relevancy to be lame.Free said:
Way to go lifting them up and empowering them.BS44325 said:
Yes. It brought a tear to my eye. #prouddadFree said:
Your daughters are laughing at marchers and Madonna and rioters? clearly they are not into empowering themselves as women, and making fun of other women, for taking a stand? You must be proud. That mocking and belief of others came from somewhere.BS44325 said:
Why? I don't speak to them the way I write in here. They get a lot more of a progressive spin at school and when we discuss things I don't shoot down anything. We talk about how things are looked at from different angles but I am very careful to not make my preference seem like the right one. In terms of media I mainly have MSNBC on in the house which they don't even pay attention too. My daughters laughing at the march happened completely on their own when we happened to drive past a woman carrying a sign in Toronto. I hadn't to that point discussed the march with them at all. They saw clips of rioters the day before on their own and saw clips of Madonna later in the day. They were not impressed and I had zero to do with it.cottagesteeze said:
That is truly impossible. Not arguing for or against the discussion here, just calling out BS.BS44325 said:
Nope. Completely uncoached. I do not push my point of view on them at all.tbergs said:
Of course they were. You have shaped their viewpoints as a parent. That's what happens. In some cases children can escape the dark cloud of narrow mindedness, but not always.BS44325 said:
My daughters were laughing at the marchers and thought the speakers were insane.Ms. Haiku said:
Those kids would ask about the pink hats, and why you weren't marching.BS44325 said:https://youtu.be/XaadfwY5bw4
Game, set, and match.
And if the media is highlighting the negative points for Madonna's speech? Rather than the entire speech which was about love? HmmmBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
From the Porch.demetrios said:
https://pearljam.com/news/pearl-jam-march-for-womens-rights
Last Saturday, Pearl Jam members and staff joined millions of Women's March demonstrators in DC and Seattle in a show of solidarity for the protection of women's rights. “So proud of our friends, family, and fans who participated in this March,” read the band’s official facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/PearlJam/
For more information on the Women’s March, check out: https://www.womensmarch.com/
For clear, concise summaries of important political news, votes, and bills … we’re trying this website and app out: https://www.countable.us/
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Good stuff.Free said:From the Porch.
demetrios said:https://pearljam.com/news/pearl-jam-march-for-womens-rights
Last Saturday, Pearl Jam members and staff joined millions of Women's March demonstrators in DC and Seattle in a show of solidarity for the protection of women's rights. “So proud of our friends, family, and fans who participated in this March,” read the band’s official facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/PearlJam/
For more information on the Women’s March, check out: https://www.womensmarch.com/
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so far from what I've seen on the news and social media, the women's march is confusing and pointless, some of them even march with costumes of vaginas ...what is that all about ?0
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Women's rights are human rights.
It's not a difficult concept, and yet some people 'choose to struggle' with it regardless.0 -
ahhh I see......0
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Agree with abortion or not, this is a crazy story!
http://julieroys.com/gianna-jessen/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
I'm sure any "tolerate" open minded person would understand why this particular person may be anti-abortion...or is she a deplorable?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
I didn't know it was possible to survive an abortion. abortion at 7 1/2 months old? blinds and suffocates the baby inside the womb? that's fucking disgusting.PJPOWER said:Agree with abortion or not, this is a crazy story!
http://julieroys.com/gianna-jessen/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
I'm sure any "tolerate" open minded person would understand why this particular person may be anti-abortion...or is she a deplorable?
strangling a kid that survived abortion? I honestly find that hard to believe. selling body parts of dead children for profit? even harder. I think some unbiased verifiable facts are needed for this. that sounds like third world country bullshit.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I'm pro choice for sure, but there needs to be a matter of timeliness to an abortion procedure.
Scraping out some goo is a far cry from removing a nearly developed human being with a developed or semi developed nervous system."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I couldn't agree more.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I'm pro choice for sure, but there needs to be a matter of timeliness to an abortion procedure.
Scraping out some goo is a far cry from removing a nearly developed human being with a developed or semi developed nervous system.0 -
100%Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I'm pro choice for sure, but there needs to be a matter of timeliness to an abortion procedure.
Scraping out some goo is a far cry from removing a nearly developed human being with a developed or semi developed nervous system.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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