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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
    There is no inherent contradiction in these two quotes. Something can be seen as a basic right and also not be free. Canadians accept this with healthcare - we see it as a basic right that everyone has access to healthcare regardless of ability to pay, but that doesn't magically make health care costs go away. It simply means that they are paid by other means, such as taxpayers. Public school education is the same, and there is no particular reason why higher education couldn't be of that was what society decided.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    I think it's hilarious. Trump is a fucking joke.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    When the Fucking B Street

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    I think it's hilarious. Trump is a fucking joke.
    + 1

    There's nothing funny about death threats, but this fucking man-child is a complete disaster. Shame on anyone who voted for this piece of shit.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
    There is no inherent contradiction in these two quotes. Something can be seen as a basic right and also not be free. Canadians accept this with healthcare - we see it as a basic right that everyone has access to healthcare regardless of ability to pay, but that doesn't magically make health care costs go away. It simply means that they are paid by other means, such as taxpayers. Public school education is the same, and there is no particular reason why higher education couldn't be of that was what society decided.
    The representative from Georgia used the term civil "right" when referring to education. I guess we could argue basic right versus civil right but he he said specifically civil right, "education, it is a civil right".

    Point: when in front of donors, education = civil right, when to oppose Bernie, education = commodity.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    I agree it's not a good thing. The bands and artists are probably getting death threats from Trump nutters for backing out.

    Why they would involve themselves in such a mess is beyond me.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    I think it's hilarious. Trump is a fucking joke.
    You think it's hilarious that bands are receiving death threats? Great. Good guy.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    Your KKK analogy is insane but I recognize that is where the state of the opposition is these days. That being said I have no problem with bands who don't want to participate...that is completely their right. What I am talking about is bands who want to participate but are having their lives torn apart for even considering it.

    I guess we all hate the Dixie Chicks now!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    it's not "just wanting to play a gig". they are potentially gaining notoriety (i.e: forwarding their own careers) off the back of a misogynist rapist pig.

    if they had wanted to play for Cruz or Carson or even Guiliani, no one would be batting an eye.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited January 2017
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    Your KKK analogy is insane but I recognize that is where the state of the opposition is these days. That being said I have no problem with bands who don't want to participate...that is completely their right. What I am talking about is bands who want to participate but are having their lives torn apart for even considering it.

    I guess we all hate the Dixie Chicks now!
    It wasn't an analogy, it was a question.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I don't condone death threats against anybody, by the way. I can understand people getting upset about it, but death threats? that's a little fucked up.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
    There is no inherent contradiction in these two quotes. Something can be seen as a basic right and also not be free. Canadians accept this with healthcare - we see it as a basic right that everyone has access to healthcare regardless of ability to pay, but that doesn't magically make health care costs go away. It simply means that they are paid by other means, such as taxpayers. Public school education is the same, and there is no particular reason why higher education couldn't be of that was what society decided.
    The representative from Georgia used the term civil "right" when referring to education. I guess we could argue basic right versus civil right but he he said specifically civil right, "education, it is a civil right".

    Point: when in front of donors, education = civil right, when to oppose Bernie, education = commodity.
    Oh, I understand your point. I just disagree with your interpretation.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    edited January 2017
    I'm not on twitter

    Has he tweeted yet that The B Street Band are
    Sad overrated losers?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    @Khanoisseur

    Not sure this guy is legit or fos but he has some interesting dirt on trump.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    Your KKK analogy is insane but I recognize that is where the state of the opposition is these days. That being said I have no problem with bands who don't want to participate...that is completely their right. What I am talking about is bands who want to participate but are having their lives torn apart for even considering it.

    I guess we all hate the Dixie Chicks now!
    It wasn't an analogy, it was a question.
    It was an insane question. Now I'm off to Kings of Leon.
  • BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    Your KKK analogy is insane but I recognize that is where the state of the opposition is these days. That being said I have no problem with bands who don't want to participate...that is completely their right. What I am talking about is bands who want to participate but are having their lives torn apart for even considering it.

    I guess we all hate the Dixie Chicks now!
    It wasn't my analogy and I actually spoke against the comparison (even though I understood what she was striving for by offering it).
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    You laugh but it is actually quite sad. These artists are all being vilified, getting death threats, etc. for just wanting to play a gig. Most of them are not even political. As somebody who was pro-bush AND pro-bushleaguer I find the constant attack on artists to be shameful. It happens on both sides and it is not a good thing.
    How would you feel about bands who agreed to play at the swearing in of the new grandmaster of the KKK or something like that? No prob? Shameful to criticize them?
    The only difference being that the KKK, by its very nature, is hatred with a very clear mission statement.

    That being said... I can completely understand why no band wishes to participate in such an event. It's a poopoo platter being served and if given the choice... people don't have to eat from it.
    Your KKK analogy is insane but I recognize that is where the state of the opposition is these days. That being said I have no problem with bands who don't want to participate...that is completely their right. What I am talking about is bands who want to participate but are having their lives torn apart for even considering it.

    I guess we all hate the Dixie Chicks now!
    It wasn't an analogy, it was a question.
    It was an insane question. Now I'm off to Kings of Leon.
    Lol, it was a perfectly reasonable question. I was asking to see where you stand in terms of criticizing artists for who the choose to perform for. Apparently, you have a line where criticism of artists' choices goes from shameful to justified. Somehow you believe that your line is the definitive one.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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