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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935

    1. Arron Rogers is the best qb in the game.
    2. They don't have any running backs. They're all injured. Ty Montgomery is a converted receiver.
    3 Cowboys got down 18 and came all the way back without completely abandoning their game plan. Finished with about a 60-40 pass-run ratio. This is what good teams do.

    Bit of a different circumstance there. Quite different than wanting the 2011 Eagles to throw 80% of the time, all the time, with Michael Vick as their qb, huh? ha...

    Steelers, on the other hand ran more times than they threw it. The vast majority of playoff teams usually have a balanced attack as I have pointed out countless times over the years. And for the millionth time, no team will ever throw 80% of the time consistently all things being equal.

    Tough loss for Big Red. I'm not surprised he used up all of his timeouts with just under 3 minutes to go in the game. He is a very good regular season coach, but.....this goes to what I've said about him for most of the last decade plus: 1 playoff win since 2008 against a team who did not have a quarterback and 4 playoff wins since 2004 is......just frustrating for fans of his teams.

    so it can be done and that you don't have to establish the run. thanks for confirming.

    yes the Steelers ran the ball a ton..and didn't score a td in the game thus letting a team that had no right being in the game hang around. i would say they needed to throw more as they did to seal the game on the last drive.

    did you really just say 4 playoffs wins since 2004 is frustrating? holy fuck balls. the Eagles haven't won 1 since he was fired and the Cowboys haven't won 1 in 20 years...and 4 since 2004 is bad? wow just clueless.

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited January 2017
    pjhawks said:

    1. Arron Rogers is the best qb in the game.
    2. They don't have any running backs. They're all injured. Ty Montgomery is a converted receiver.
    3 Cowboys got down 18 and came all the way back without completely abandoning their game plan. Finished with about a 60-40 pass-run ratio. This is what good teams do.

    Bit of a different circumstance there. Quite different than wanting the 2011 Eagles to throw 80% of the time, all the time, with Michael Vick as their qb, huh? ha...

    Steelers, on the other hand ran more times than they threw it. The vast majority of playoff teams usually have a balanced attack as I have pointed out countless times over the years. And for the millionth time, no team will ever throw 80% of the time consistently all things being equal.

    Tough loss for Big Red. I'm not surprised he used up all of his timeouts with just under 3 minutes to go in the game. He is a very good regular season coach, but.....this goes to what I've said about him for most of the last decade plus: 1 playoff win since 2008 against a team who did not have a quarterback and 4 playoff wins since 2004 is......just frustrating for fans of his teams.

    so it can be done and that you don't have to establish the run. thanks for confirming.

    yes the Steelers ran the ball a ton..and didn't score a td in the game thus letting a team that had no right being in the game hang around. i would say they needed to throw more as they did to seal the game on the last drive.

    did you really just say 4 playoffs wins since 2004 is frustrating? holy fuck balls. the Eagles haven't won 1 since he was fired and the Cowboys haven't won 1 in 20 years...and 4 since 2004 is bad? wow just clueless.

    Sure it can be done every now and then when you have a hall of fame qb and are forced to run the ball because you literally do not have a healthy running back. haha.....Out of the four playoff winners yesterday, only one had an out of whack ratio. This is because good teams know that to win consistently you need to have some balance.

    Solid but wrong take on the Steelers. Bottom line is they won the game on the road, in a hostile environment, as an underdog and I would think have a better shot at beating New England than the Chiefs would.

    Yeah. 2004 was 12 years ago. He has won playoff games in 3 seasons in 12 years. Not sure how that is not frustrating. The Eagles won 2 in 10 years during the 90's and that was the epitome of frustration.

    And yes the Eagles haven't won one since he left (he's only won one against a 3rd string qb)....but they also didn't win one in the last 4 seasons he was here. The Cowboys have won 2 since 2009 (first one breaking a huge drought against Reid's Eagles).
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935
    edited January 2017

    pjhawks said:

    1. Arron Rogers is the best qb in the game.
    2. They don't have any running backs. They're all injured. Ty Montgomery is a converted receiver.
    3 Cowboys got down 18 and came all the way back without completely abandoning their game plan. Finished with about a 60-40 pass-run ratio. This is what good teams do.

    Bit of a different circumstance there. Quite different than wanting the 2011 Eagles to throw 80% of the time, all the time, with Michael Vick as their qb, huh? ha...

    Steelers, on the other hand ran more times than they threw it. The vast majority of playoff teams usually have a balanced attack as I have pointed out countless times over the years. And for the millionth time, no team will ever throw 80% of the time consistently all things being equal.

    Tough loss for Big Red. I'm not surprised he used up all of his timeouts with just under 3 minutes to go in the game. He is a very good regular season coach, but.....this goes to what I've said about him for most of the last decade plus: 1 playoff win since 2008 against a team who did not have a quarterback and 4 playoff wins since 2004 is......just frustrating for fans of his teams.

    so it can be done and that you don't have to establish the run. thanks for confirming.

    yes the Steelers ran the ball a ton..and didn't score a td in the game thus letting a team that had no right being in the game hang around. i would say they needed to throw more as they did to seal the game on the last drive.

    did you really just say 4 playoffs wins since 2004 is frustrating? holy fuck balls. the Eagles haven't won 1 since he was fired and the Cowboys haven't won 1 in 20 years...and 4 since 2004 is bad? wow just clueless.

    Sure it can be done every now and then when you have a hall of fame qb and are forced to run the ball because you literally do not have a healthy running back. haha.....Out of the four playoff winners yesterday, only one had an out of whack ratio. This is because good teams know that to win consistently you need to have some balance.

    Solid but wrong take on the Steelers. Bottom line is they won the game on the road, in a hostile environment, as an underdog and I would think have a better shot at beating New England than the Chiefs would.

    Yeah. 2004 was 12 years ago. He has won playoff games in 3 seasons in 12 years. Not sure how that is not frustrating. The Eagles won 2 in 10 years during the 90's and that was the epitome of frustration.

    And yes the Eagles haven't won one since he left (he's only won one against a 3rd string qb)....but they also didn't win one in the last 4 seasons he was here. The Cowboys have won 2 since 2009 (first one breaking a huge drought against Reid's Eagles).
    agree Pittsburgh has a much better chance of beating NE than KC would have.

    My bad on the Cowboys. I thought they said on the game they hadn't won one since 1996. Totally forgot them beating the Eagles.

    I'd have to look it up but I wonder if any coach has won 4 since 2004 without Brady, either of the Manning's, Aaron Rodgers or Roethlisberger as their QB. that would be an interesting answer.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited January 2017
    pjhawks said:

    pjhawks said:

    1. Arron Rogers is the best qb in the game.
    2. They don't have any running backs. They're all injured. Ty Montgomery is a converted receiver.
    3 Cowboys got down 18 and came all the way back without completely abandoning their game plan. Finished with about a 60-40 pass-run ratio. This is what good teams do.

    Bit of a different circumstance there. Quite different than wanting the 2011 Eagles to throw 80% of the time, all the time, with Michael Vick as their qb, huh? ha...

    Steelers, on the other hand ran more times than they threw it. The vast majority of playoff teams usually have a balanced attack as I have pointed out countless times over the years. And for the millionth time, no team will ever throw 80% of the time consistently all things being equal.

    Tough loss for Big Red. I'm not surprised he used up all of his timeouts with just under 3 minutes to go in the game. He is a very good regular season coach, but.....this goes to what I've said about him for most of the last decade plus: 1 playoff win since 2008 against a team who did not have a quarterback and 4 playoff wins since 2004 is......just frustrating for fans of his teams.

    so it can be done and that you don't have to establish the run. thanks for confirming.

    yes the Steelers ran the ball a ton..and didn't score a td in the game thus letting a team that had no right being in the game hang around. i would say they needed to throw more as they did to seal the game on the last drive.

    did you really just say 4 playoffs wins since 2004 is frustrating? holy fuck balls. the Eagles haven't won 1 since he was fired and the Cowboys haven't won 1 in 20 years...and 4 since 2004 is bad? wow just clueless.

    Sure it can be done every now and then when you have a hall of fame qb and are forced to run the ball because you literally do not have a healthy running back. haha.....Out of the four playoff winners yesterday, only one had an out of whack ratio. This is because good teams know that to win consistently you need to have some balance.

    Solid but wrong take on the Steelers. Bottom line is they won the game on the road, in a hostile environment, as an underdog and I would think have a better shot at beating New England than the Chiefs would.

    Yeah. 2004 was 12 years ago. He has won playoff games in 3 seasons in 12 years. Not sure how that is not frustrating. The Eagles won 2 in 10 years during the 90's and that was the epitome of frustration.

    And yes the Eagles haven't won one since he left (he's only won one against a 3rd string qb)....but they also didn't win one in the last 4 seasons he was here. The Cowboys have won 2 since 2009 (first one breaking a huge drought against Reid's Eagles).
    agree Pittsburgh has a much better chance of beating NE than KC would have.

    I'd have to look it up but I wonder if any coach has won 4 since 2004 without Brady, either of the Manning's, Aaron Rodgers or Roethlisberger as their QB. that would be an interesting answer.
    I don't know. He did have McNabb 6 of those years and Vick, who you wanted to him to throw 80% of the time with. And say what you want about Alex Smith but he was hand picked by Reid when he first got there. So...that's on him.

    Reid's a good coach. Had a ton of success for his first 5 years here and caught lightning in a bottle a couple times after. He just has a tendency of coming up small in big games. Always has. That timeout after the 3rd down play at the end last night was brutal. You know you are going for it on 4th. You need to have that play ready to go. This is something a rookie coach like Pederson would be getting grilled for if he made the same mistake.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935

    pjhawks said:

    pjhawks said:

    1. Arron Rogers is the best qb in the game.
    2. They don't have any running backs. They're all injured. Ty Montgomery is a converted receiver.
    3 Cowboys got down 18 and came all the way back without completely abandoning their game plan. Finished with about a 60-40 pass-run ratio. This is what good teams do.

    Bit of a different circumstance there. Quite different than wanting the 2011 Eagles to throw 80% of the time, all the time, with Michael Vick as their qb, huh? ha...

    Steelers, on the other hand ran more times than they threw it. The vast majority of playoff teams usually have a balanced attack as I have pointed out countless times over the years. And for the millionth time, no team will ever throw 80% of the time consistently all things being equal.

    Tough loss for Big Red. I'm not surprised he used up all of his timeouts with just under 3 minutes to go in the game. He is a very good regular season coach, but.....this goes to what I've said about him for most of the last decade plus: 1 playoff win since 2008 against a team who did not have a quarterback and 4 playoff wins since 2004 is......just frustrating for fans of his teams.

    so it can be done and that you don't have to establish the run. thanks for confirming.

    yes the Steelers ran the ball a ton..and didn't score a td in the game thus letting a team that had no right being in the game hang around. i would say they needed to throw more as they did to seal the game on the last drive.

    did you really just say 4 playoffs wins since 2004 is frustrating? holy fuck balls. the Eagles haven't won 1 since he was fired and the Cowboys haven't won 1 in 20 years...and 4 since 2004 is bad? wow just clueless.

    Sure it can be done every now and then when you have a hall of fame qb and are forced to run the ball because you literally do not have a healthy running back. haha.....Out of the four playoff winners yesterday, only one had an out of whack ratio. This is because good teams know that to win consistently you need to have some balance.

    Solid but wrong take on the Steelers. Bottom line is they won the game on the road, in a hostile environment, as an underdog and I would think have a better shot at beating New England than the Chiefs would.

    Yeah. 2004 was 12 years ago. He has won playoff games in 3 seasons in 12 years. Not sure how that is not frustrating. The Eagles won 2 in 10 years during the 90's and that was the epitome of frustration.

    And yes the Eagles haven't won one since he left (he's only won one against a 3rd string qb)....but they also didn't win one in the last 4 seasons he was here. The Cowboys have won 2 since 2009 (first one breaking a huge drought against Reid's Eagles).
    agree Pittsburgh has a much better chance of beating NE than KC would have.

    I'd have to look it up but I wonder if any coach has won 4 since 2004 without Brady, either of the Manning's, Aaron Rodgers or Roethlisberger as their QB. that would be an interesting answer.
    I don't know. He did have McNabb 6 of those years and Vick, who you wanted to him to throw 80% of the time with. And say what you want about Alex Smith but he was hand picked by Reid when he first got there. So...that's on him.

    Reid's a good coach. Had a ton of success for his first 5 years here and caught lightning in a bottle a couple times after. He just has a tendency of coming up small in big games. Always has. That timeout after the 3rd down play at the end last night was brutal. You know you are going for it on 4th. You need to have that play ready to go. This is something a rookie coach like Pederson would be getting grilled for if he made the same mistake.
    and i thought the 3rd down play was terrible. i hate rollouts in that area, too far for QB to run it in and just clutters the area.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited January 2017
    Seemingly minor moves like fleecing the Eagles for Eric Rowe are a big reason why the Patriots have been so good for so long.

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935

    Seemingly minor moves like fleecing the Eagles for Eric Rowe are a big reason why the Patriots have been so good for so long.

    Brady
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    pjhawks said:

    Seemingly minor moves like fleecing the Eagles for Eric Rowe are a big reason why the Patriots have been so good for so long.

    Brady
    Yup.....and moves like this. Horrible trade for the Eagles. Pats outsmart the league year after year.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935

    Seemingly minor moves like fleecing the Eagles for Eric Rowe are a big reason why the Patriots have been so good for so long.

    let's go back to this one again. umm Brady and Brady and well you know Brady.

    so much for having to establish the run for the Pats too.

    the Falcons throwing the ball and getting sacked on 2nd down was an even worse call the the Eagles throwing a screen against Dallas in the same situation. wtf were they doing? run the damn ball kick the field goal and it's over.

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Sure let's go back to it. I said "yup Brady and moves like this."

    Blame cheating all you want but the Pats are just smarter than the rest of the league. Different cast of characters every few years and they do nothing but win.

    And betting on the Pats in the 2nd halves of games they are losing is money in the bank. No one makes adjustments like Bill Belichick. Loaded up at halftime last night. God bless America.
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    pjhawks Posts: 12,935

    Sure let's go back to it. I said "yup Brady and moves like this."

    Blame cheating all you want but the Pats are just smarter than the rest of the league. Different cast of characters every few years and they do nothing but win.

    And betting on the Pats in the 2nd halves of games they are losing is money in the bank. No one makes adjustments like Bill Belichick. Loaded up at halftime last night. God bless America.

    having the greatest QB of all time will make a coach look pretty smart. Guy is just on another level than mere mortals.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited February 2017
    pjhawks said:

    Sure let's go back to it. I said "yup Brady and moves like this."

    Blame cheating all you want but the Pats are just smarter than the rest of the league. Different cast of characters every few years and they do nothing but win.

    And betting on the Pats in the 2nd halves of games they are losing is money in the bank. No one makes adjustments like Bill Belichick. Loaded up at halftime last night. God bless America.

    having the greatest QB of all time will make a coach look pretty smart. Guy is just on another level than mere mortals.
    That is a given, obvious to even the most casual of fans.

    But they also have 14 undrafted free agents and 10 guys drafted in 5th round or later--almost half their 53 man roster. And they pluck guys that the Eagles apparently couldn't use, like Eric Rowe, and they all of a sudden become key members of a Super Bowl winning team. Patrick Chung's another example.

    Brady is on another level (obvious to anyone with half a brain) and so is that entire organization.
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    pjhawks said:

    Sure let's go back to it. I said "yup Brady and moves like this."

    Blame cheating all you want but the Pats are just smarter than the rest of the league. Different cast of characters every few years and they do nothing but win.

    And betting on the Pats in the 2nd halves of games they are losing is money in the bank. No one makes adjustments like Bill Belichick. Loaded up at halftime last night. God bless America.

    having the greatest QB of all time will make a coach look pretty smart. Guy is just on another level than mere mortals.
    That is a given, obvious to even the most casual of fans.

    But they also have 14 undrafted free agents and 10 guys drafted in 5th round or later--almost half their 53 man roster. And they pluck guys that the Eagles apparently couldn't use, like Eric Rowe, and they all of a sudden become key members of a Super Bowl winning team. Patrick Chung's another example.

    Brady is on another level (obvious to anyone with half a brain) and so is that entire organization.
    the Rowe trade never made sense.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited March 2017
    Brandin Cooks for a second rounder? Sign me up.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540

    Brandin Cooks for a second rounder? Sign me up.

    How legit is that though? Plus, I don't think I would. I think he's got to cost less because the inevitable amount of money you're going to have to throw at him in an extension.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598

    Brandin Cooks for a second rounder? Sign me up.

    How legit is that though? Plus, I don't think I would. I think he's got to cost less because the inevitable amount of money you're going to have to throw at him in an extension.
    I mean he's younger and better than any free agent they might over pay for right? I'd roll the dice. They wanted to draft him before Saints traded up...
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    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540

    Brandin Cooks for a second rounder? Sign me up.

    How legit is that though? Plus, I don't think I would. I think he's got to cost less because the inevitable amount of money you're going to have to throw at him in an extension.
    I mean he's younger and better than any free agent they might over pay for right? I'd roll the dice. They wanted to draft him before Saints traded up...
    Well, yeah. I would've loved to get him in the draft (Marcus Smith baby). I'm just saying giving up a 2nd rounder for him is fine. But then how much money are you paying him in an extension(rhetorical question)?

    So much about this team annoys me.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598

    Brandin Cooks for a second rounder? Sign me up.

    How legit is that though? Plus, I don't think I would. I think he's got to cost less because the inevitable amount of money you're going to have to throw at him in an extension.
    I mean he's younger and better than any free agent they might over pay for right? I'd roll the dice. They wanted to draft him before Saints traded up...
    Well, yeah. I would've loved to get him in the draft (Marcus Smith baby). I'm just saying giving up a 2nd rounder for him is fine. But then how much money are you paying him in an extension(rhetorical question)?

    So much about this team annoys me.
    I don't know. A lot? My point is they'd probably end up overpaying for one of these inferior free agent wideouts if they don't pull off this trade. So I'd rather give up a 2nd and endure the extension cost because he's younger and better than the alternatives.

    I agree about this team being annoying. This is the first thing that's caused me to think about them in a while....other than them raising ticket prices last month.
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  • eeriepadave
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    so Alshon Jeffry and Torrie Smith? not too shabby
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    so Alshon Jeffry and Torrie Smith? not too shabby

    good short term move but kind of a stop gap too. still like to see them draft a receiver early.