Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883

    dignin said:

    AP Source: Trump aide in frequent contact with Russia envoy



    By JULIE PACE

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A senior U.S. official says the Obama administration is aware of frequent contacts between President-elect Donald Trump's top national security adviser and Russia's ambassador to the United States.

    The official says the contacts happened on the day President Barack Obama expelled dozens of Russian officials from the U.S. and imposed sanctions as punishment for election-related hacking. The official says the administration is also aware of contacts between Trump adviser Michael Flynn and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at other times as well.

    The day after Obama announced sanctions, Russian President Vladimir Putin said he would not retaliate. Trump praised him for his restraint.

    Flynn's conversations were first reported by Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. The official was not authorized to confirm the contacts publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ba462d64c12d4692b8381cb7076d34ab/ap-source-trump-aide-frequent-contact-russia-envoy?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

    Does anyone here still trust the Don to, "make America great again?"
    STILL?? I'm not sure anyone that thought through it ever trusted him...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
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  • The man, Trump, has not a clue about the Oval Office, the responsibilities thereof or how government functions and what it does . The White House is not a board room from the Apprentice.
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  • mrussel1
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    edited January 2017

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Here's the way I'm thinking about it....

    It's the old saying, "though does protesteth too much". His denials are so vehement and off the wall that it doesn't seem balanced. If someone told you that the Russians have a dossier on your.. would you say "Lies! It's all lies. Fake news!". Or would you say.. that would be of great concern. I'm going to ensure that my national defense team gets to the bottom of this." Because if it's not true, how would he know it's not true?? You could ONLY know if it's true.
  • JC29856
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    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
  • tbergs
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    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    Honestly, that's the biggest problem. Trump is doing exactly what he needs to in order to create doubt in anything you hear, see or read.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    Bush did plenty of harm, thank you very much.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,806
    mrussel1 said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Here's the way I'm thinking about it....

    It's the old saying, "though does protesteth too much". His denials are so vehement and off the wall that it doesn't seem balanced. If someone told you that the Russians have a dossier on your.. would you say "Lies! It's all lies. Fake news!". Or would you say.. that would be of great concern. I'm going to ensure that my national defense team gets to the bottom of this." Because if it's not true, how would he know it's not true?? You could ONLY know if it's true.
    +1

    Trump's denials have been completely bizarre.
  • ^^^
    The accusations are just as bizarre.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    Trump logic and 95% BS.

    If you really think Obama was the same as Bush, well, I can see why you voted for Trump.
  • dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    Trump logic and 95% BS.

    If you really think Obama was the same as Bush, well, I can see why you voted for Trump.
    Tell that to Joe the Plumber. Or remind Sarah Palin.
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  • josevolution
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    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    he hired a good forger for his birth certificate. good thing
  • vaggar99 said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    he hired a good forger for his birth certificate. good thing
    Bigly
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  • dignin
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    FBI had Trump-Russia report in summer 2016, Senate to investigate

    Rachel Maddow shares a new report that the FBI had the unverified Trump-Russia dossier in the summer of 2016 but said nothing while instead talking openly about the ultimately fruitless Clinton investigation.


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/fbi-had-trump-russia-report-in-summer-2016-senate-to-investigate-854849603559
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    This gets better by the day lol
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

    image

    What's the relevance here?