Russia's Influence On The American Election

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.

This from above link...
That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.

You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.

You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar.
I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?

No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.

Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.

Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.

"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".

What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.

I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.

I generally agree with this comment and am fairly certain there are agents, directors, etc. that believe they operate above the law. They probably get a way with it more often than they should. But that manifests itself into politically damaging leaks, conjecture, misinformation, etc. Were Chuck in Russia, he would end up like Boris Nemtsov or the former president of Yukos.

Chuck a lenists too?

No... you are one of the few. Congrats.

I remember when you were "the defender of all things Hilliary", it'll be almost a year now. Anyway since her devastating defeat and your subsequent recovery from, what is your new role?
whatever it is, you should have more fun with it, dont be so serious, throw a joke in once in awhile. jimmyv did that and I found his posts more enjoyable. i miss jimmyv.

My new "role" is the same as it always is. Around here, I'm interested in political debate, foreign affairs, generally liberal politics and editing Pearl Jam multicam shows. It's what I do for leisure.

Serious now...and these multi cam edits end up on YouTube? Or you keep to yourself?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJedu1zHEHk This is Miami. You can see the rest on my page. They are all blu ray too.

It's amazing that you and I agree on every single aspect of American politics mrussel but we can't agree that your videos are shit.

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.

This from above link...
That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.

You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.

You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar.
I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?

No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.

Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.

Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.

"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".

What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.

I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.

I generally agree with this comment and am fairly certain there are agents, directors, etc. that believe they operate above the law. They probably get a way with it more often than they should. But that manifests itself into politically damaging leaks, conjecture, misinformation, etc. Were Chuck in Russia, he would end up like Boris Nemtsov or the former president of Yukos.

Chuck a lenists too?

No... you are one of the few. Congrats.

I remember when you were "the defender of all things Hilliary", it'll be almost a year now. Anyway since her devastating defeat and your subsequent recovery from, what is your new role?
whatever it is, you should have more fun with it, dont be so serious, throw a joke in once in awhile. jimmyv did that and I found his posts more enjoyable. i miss jimmyv.

My new "role" is the same as it always is. Around here, I'm interested in political debate, foreign affairs, generally liberal politics and editing Pearl Jam multicam shows. It's what I do for leisure.

Are the Toronto shows ready yet?

Negative. Check my you tube. Posted the latest last night

Watched your Philly vid last night...solid solid job!

I do have a ton of Toronto footage in my possession. It will get done.

ledvedderman said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.

This from above link...
That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.

You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.

You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar.
I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?

No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.

Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.

Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.

"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".

What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.

I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.

I generally agree with this comment and am fairly certain there are agents, directors, etc. that believe they operate above the law. They probably get a way with it more often than they should. But that manifests itself into politically damaging leaks, conjecture, misinformation, etc. Were Chuck in Russia, he would end up like Boris Nemtsov or the former president of Yukos.

Chuck a lenists too?

No... you are one of the few. Congrats.

I remember when you were "the defender of all things Hilliary", it'll be almost a year now. Anyway since her devastating defeat and your subsequent recovery from, what is your new role?
whatever it is, you should have more fun with it, dont be so serious, throw a joke in once in awhile. jimmyv did that and I found his posts more enjoyable. i miss jimmyv.

My new "role" is the same as it always is. Around here, I'm interested in political debate, foreign affairs, generally liberal politics and editing Pearl Jam multicam shows. It's what I do for leisure.

Are the Toronto shows ready yet?

Negative. Check my you tube. Posted the latest last night

Watched your Philly vid last night...solid solid job!

I do have a ton of Toronto footage in my possession. It will get done.

The Binaural show??? Right on.

vaggar99 said:

putin seems like a cool guy, but if he wants to take over america, he should learn a little English. that's not racist again russians. just putin. i'm racist against putin, yes.

mrussel1 said:

Of course. Then Greenville... then the albums will be done.

JC29856 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone has a pretty great article about this.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-russia-story-reaches-a-crisis-point-w460806

There's some interesting news out of Israel in his story, and his follow up point hits the nail on the head:

"Meanwhile, Ynet in Israel is reporting that Israeli intelligence officials are deciding not to share intelligence with the incoming Trump administration. The report indicates they came to this conclusion after a recent meeting with American intelligence officials, who told them the Russians have "leverages of pressure" to use against Trump.

This is an extraordinary story. If our intelligence community really believes this, then playtime is over.

No more Clapper-style hedging or waffling. If Israel gets to hear why they think Trump is compromised, how is the American public not also so entitled?

But if all they have are unverifiable rumors, they can't do this, not even to Donald Trump.

The only solution is an immediate unveiling of all the facts and an urgent public investigation. A half-assed whispering campaign a week and a half from a Trump presidency, with BuzzFeed at the center of the action, isn't going to cut it. We need to know what the likes of Clapper and Comey know, and we need it all now, before it's too late."

I believe it's referring to this...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4906642,00.html

I'm all for it, let's see whats Russia has on trump.

This is an interesting play, for sure. Trump and his supporters fall all over themselves in support of Israel. Israel is now bombing Syrian military targets.