Some facts for the Obama haters

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

JC29856 said:

Go Beavers said:

JC29856 said:

Cornell west on Obama and Bernie alittle...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/barack-obama-legacy-presidency

Any chance this is a see I'm conservative but not racist because I just linked a black guy being critical of Obama post?

You might want to do better research on your targets, try going beyond the past six months if possible.
You're acting like McCain giving away the flight plans to his captures.

I left this crumb yesterday before pissgate broke!

According to retired Army Colonel Earl Hopper, McCain divulged classified information North Vietnam used to hone their air defense system, including “the package routes, which were routes used to bomb North Vietnam. He gave in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they made a turn … he gave them what primary targets the United States was interested in.” As result, Hopper claims, the U.S. lost 60 per cent more aircraft, and in 1968 “called off the bombing of North Vietnam, because of the information McCain had given to them.”

Sounds like an apologist for the Johnson/Nixon/Kissinger policy failure. And another one of your doozy turd droppings.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/

Do you ever check your sources?

Kiley says he bases his most damning charges against McCain — that McCain gave information about the schedule of U.S. attacks in Vietnam in 1967, the year his plane was shot down and McCain was captured — on the word of Earl Hopper, a retired Army colonel.

In an interview, Hopper's wife, Patty, said that Hopper wasn't able to address the charges over the phone because of poor hearing. She said that Hopper has long been involved in the POW movement and that Earl Hopper's son, Earl Jr., is missing in action in Vietnam.

She cited as evidence for Hopper's charges a 1973 article by McCain that ran in U.S. News and World Report and what she said were "declassified U.S. military documents" she claimed to possess describing McCain's collaboration. Patty Hopper said she was away from her Arizona home and could not fax those documents.

But the 1973 article does not back up the charges made in the flyer. It provides the same basic account as McCain's book, corroborated by Timberg's book, which was based on interviews with many POWs.

Timberg, Day and Swindle noted that McCain, the son of a Navy admiral, was offered an early release from the prison but refused so that he could adhere to the military's code of conduct.

Timberg said he was perplexed by the allegations.

"Why do they hate him? There can be lots of issues you disagree with him about. But why try to destroy him?"

Because of the seriousness of the charge, the utter absence of evidence and the clear intention to harm McCain just days before a critical Republican primary, we find this claim to be Pants on Fire wrong.


But that's your MO, throw so much garbage out there realizing your target audience doesn't have the time nor inclination to fact check every post, read every email and follow up with a rebuttal. If ignored, it begins to be the "truth." Say hello to Putin and don't forget your shower cap.

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

JC29856 said:

Go Beavers said:

JC29856 said:

Cornell west on Obama and Bernie alittle...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/barack-obama-legacy-presidency

Any chance this is a see I'm conservative but not racist because I just linked a black guy being critical of Obama post?

You might want to do better research on your targets, try going beyond the past six months if possible.
You're acting like McCain giving away the flight plans to his captures.

I left this crumb yesterday before pissgate broke!

According to retired Army Colonel Earl Hopper, McCain divulged classified information North Vietnam used to hone their air defense system, including “the package routes, which were routes used to bomb North Vietnam. He gave in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they made a turn … he gave them what primary targets the United States was interested in.” As result, Hopper claims, the U.S. lost 60 per cent more aircraft, and in 1968 “called off the bombing of North Vietnam, because of the information McCain had given to them.”

Sounds like an apologist for the Johnson/Nixon/Kissinger policy failure. And another one of your doozy turd droppings.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/

Do you ever check your sources?

Kiley says he bases his most damning charges against McCain — that McCain gave information about the schedule of U.S. attacks in Vietnam in 1967, the year his plane was shot down and McCain was captured — on the word of Earl Hopper, a retired Army colonel.

In an interview, Hopper's wife, Patty, said that Hopper wasn't able to address the charges over the phone because of poor hearing. She said that Hopper has long been involved in the POW movement and that Earl Hopper's son, Earl Jr., is missing in action in Vietnam.

She cited as evidence for Hopper's charges a 1973 article by McCain that ran in U.S. News and World Report and what she said were "declassified U.S. military documents" she claimed to possess describing McCain's collaboration. Patty Hopper said she was away from her Arizona home and could not fax those documents.

But the 1973 article does not back up the charges made in the flyer. It provides the same basic account as McCain's book, corroborated by Timberg's book, which was based on interviews with many POWs.

Timberg, Day and Swindle noted that McCain, the son of a Navy admiral, was offered an early release from the prison but refused so that he could adhere to the military's code of conduct.

Timberg said he was perplexed by the allegations.

"Why do they hate him? There can be lots of issues you disagree with him about. But why try to destroy him?"

Because of the seriousness of the charge, the utter absence of evidence and the clear intention to harm McCain just days before a critical Republican primary, we find this claim to be Pants on Fire wrong.


But that's your MO, throw so much garbage out there realizing your target audience doesn't have the time nor inclination to fact check every post, read every email and follow up with a rebuttal. If ignored, it begins to be the "truth." Say hello to Putin and don't forget your shower cap.

My source is the horse your source politifact through the wife, but your source is more credible, makes perfect sense. Great rebuttal. Your like undefeated at this.

Wrong. My source cites multiple sources inclusive of attempting to contact your sole source for which they were denied. You only cited your sole source. Who apparently is aligned with those with an ax to grind. What is politifact's motivation to "lie", "shade the truth" or otherwise protect McCain? Now ask the same of your sole source, your horses ass.

JC29856 said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama

Classic Obama! By far his masterpiece!

Make NDAA the measuring stick for past and future presidents.

JC29856 said:

JC29856 said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama

Classic Obama! By far his masterpiece!

Make NDAA the measuring stick for past and future presidents.

Then Professor Constitution followed it up with this beauty which helps protect Americans from their own minds.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2017


Phil Collins on the drum kit, final encore, drum solo!