Syria and the US's Motive

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Don't think this one hit the mainstream networks, but was pretty widely circulated on social media:

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    That's why I was asking. At first it kind of seems like what JC is saying about the pic is true but the more you look at the pic w/ your context seems more plausible.

    Yeah, I'm not sure what JC was getting at. Perhaps a "fake news" example. If, instead of this meme, there were 3 different links to articles posted on CNN of 3 different events in different parts of the world using the same child I'd be convinced. But these 3 images in the meme could have been shot during a single event and wouldn't raise any flags with me.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Drowned Out said:

    Don't think this one hit the mainstream networks, but was pretty widely circulated on social media:

    image

    So where was the video really shot?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    That's why I was asking. At first it kind of seems like what JC is saying about the pic is true but the more you look at the pic w/ your context seems more plausible.

    Exactly.. so who's really the sucker?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    mrussel1 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Don't think this one hit the mainstream networks, but was pretty widely circulated on social media:

    image

    So where was the video really shot?
    You tell me...

    https://youtu.be/g93Jzxaxp9s

    Definitely not Aleppo 2016.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Drowned Out said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Don't think this one hit the mainstream networks, but was pretty widely circulated on social media:

    image

    So where was the video really shot?
    You tell me...

    https://youtu.be/g93Jzxaxp9s

    Definitely not Aleppo 2016.
    Can you just tell me so I don't have to watch a 7 minute video and waste my time?

    Anyway, if it wasn't on the MSM, what is your point? And whoever wrote the post, writes like a 3rd grader.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited December 2016
    :lol: Couldn't find specifics on where it was filmed, but it looks like a set to me. It's a music video for a Lebanese singer from the French 'the voice'...2014.
    My point? Furthering my pro-Assad, pro-Putin agenda, of course :wink:
    Seriously tho, this wasn't meant to further our conversation about mainstream media. Just an example of propaganda....was reminded of it after seeing JC's post and the ensuing comments.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "Evil doers!"

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/syria-western-media-cheer-al-qaeda
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Since celebs are the current rage...George Clooney remember the $327k per seat fundraiser they did for Hilliary and the down ballot democrats? Ignoring how that worked out for down ballot Ds, I would think being married to Amal he would have some idea of what is really going on in Syria and with the White Helmets...or am I giving Amal too much credit?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amalalamuddinstyle.wordpress.com/2017/01/09/amal-and-george-clooney-at-the-white-helmets-documentary-projection-in-london-09-01-2017/amp/
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited January 2017
    Speaking of the white helmets....
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/01/white-helmets-solidarity-with-al-qaeda-hold-citizens-hostage-in-damascus-with-no-water.html
    Apparently AQ is holding 5 million civilians in Damascus hostage by rigging the main water processing plant for the city and threatening to blow it up if political concessions are not made...The washington post has reported that the plant was shut down because Russia bombed it (why would Russia bomb a water plant supplying water to a city their allies hold?....because they're eeeeevil, I guess)...but indy sites are claiming AQ has been bragging about it on social media about it. There is also this letter, making the demands:
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    A closeup of a signatory:
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    ^^That is the white helmets logo, alongside factions of AQ....
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Drowned Out said:

    Speaking of the white helmets....
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/01/white-helmets-solidarity-with-al-qaeda-hold-citizens-hostage-in-damascus-with-no-water.html
    Apparently AQ is holding 5 million civilians in Damascus hostage by rigging the main water processing plant for the city and threatening to blow it up if political concessions are not made...The washington post has reported that the plant was shut down because Russia bombed it (why would Russia bomb a water plant supplying water to a city their allies hold?....because they're eeeeevil, I guess)...but indy sites are claiming AQ has been bragging about it on social media about it. There is also this letter, making the demands:
    image

    A closeup of a signatory:
    image
    ^^That is the white helmets logo, alongside factions of AQ....

    I read about that a few days ago...allegedly funded by guess who?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-uk-paid-white-helmets-help-al-qaeda-blocking-water-to-5-million-thirsty-syrians/5566309
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    If the "white helmets" ala US and UK forces were doing this covertly, why would they sign a letter?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Good question. Obviously not meant to be covert, assuming the letter is legit.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Drowned Out said:

    Good question. Obviously not meant to be covert, assuming the letter is legit.

    That's the point. I don't believe the letter is legit. You don't think there would be a field day in the news leading up to the election if the UN was working with AQ? The conservatives in this country have been trying to delegitimize the UN for years. If this was true, they would hammer it until we left.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited January 2017
    This (taking Damascus hostage) is happening now, not pre-election. The white helmets don't have anything to do with the UN (those helmets are blue). As for the media not covering the AQ alliance...that's what we've been talking about in Syria all along.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    If the "white helmets" ala US and UK forces were doing this covertly, why would they sign a letter?

    this isn't really a covert mission ... obama has openly admitted to funding and arming the "rebels" ... this mission has been handled as much by PR firms as they have by other areas of gov't ...

    the reality is that most american think russia is bad, that syria is bad ... so, there really is no need to hide ... no msm outlet is reporting anything other than the narrative the gov't wants ...

    remember - americansjust voted in trump despite all that is out there ... it's not remotely necessary to worry about any "fallout" ...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    If the "white helmets" ala US and UK forces were doing this covertly, why would they sign a letter?

    this isn't really a covert mission ... obama has openly admitted to funding and arming the "rebels" ... this mission has been handled as much by PR firms as they have by other areas of gov't ...

    the reality is that most american think russia is bad, that syria is bad ... so, there really is no need to hide ... no msm outlet is reporting anything other than the narrative the gov't wants ...

    remember - americansjust voted in trump despite all that is out there ... it's not remotely necessary to worry about any "fallout" ...
    So that's an interesting point and it will important to watch how this plays out. Now remember that Clinton earned 3MM more votes, so not exactly a Trump landslide. But more importantly is how other congressional leaders react to this newest chunk of information. Also, Obama expelled 35 diplomats and neither Ryan or McConnell has balked or criticized the move. Graham and McCain think he didn't go far enough. So it may not be very easy for Trump to try to reverse some of these decisions.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/fake-news-isnt-new-dissecting-two-decades-of-war-propaganda/224022/
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    https://gowans.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/the-revolutionary-distemper-in-syria-that-wasnt/

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