Russia's Influence On The American Election
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Was this to me or BS?Halifax2TheMax said:Please enlighten me as to what was unstable about Iraq prior to 2003. And for how long is the US now committed to Iraq? Forever?
And sorry, I'm not buying it and I don't own it as I was against it from well before it started. Canada can pick up where we left off. Consider it as the US having softened it up for you to make it easier. Your welcome.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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First part to you and second part to both you and BS, BS, BS. The WaPo link below, if it works, has an article on why the US should have stayed out of Iraq. If it doesn't work, try to find the WaPo article on the CIA interrogation of Sadam Hussein.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
Dick Cheney sold the US' soul to the devil and forever ruined what little prestige and decency the US had left. Dick Cheney made pre-emptive regime change the US' foreign policy doctrine and the unjustified invasion of Iraq has lead to the US losing all of its so called moral authority. Ain't no President putting that genie back in the bottle. Someone should ask Trump how well he thinks GWB sleeps at night.
I think Obama played the hand that was dealt to him just as well as he could have. Some other member of the "coalition of the willing" can go all in for the pot. We've wasted enough on this boondoggle.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So Putin only wanted to fuck over HC to help Bafoon win the WH and no one working on Bafoon's campaign knew about it ? Or Bafoon himself ? ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Excellent point jv.
The libs/radlibs are getting so scattered w/ their thoughts they even attack their own.
Liberal thoughts cause nasty people.0 -
What's never ever mentioned by the sanctity of the vote hypocritical democrats:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Excellent point jv.
The libs/radlibs are getting so scattered w/ their thoughts they even attack their own.
Liberal thoughts cause nasty people.
100% verifiable proof and multiple examples of the DNC and Clinton campaign undermining democracy in the primaries and sabotaging primary opponents, but funny there were ZERO calls for protests, ZERO calls for recounts and ZERO calls for delegates to flip and vote their conscience. Interesting.
I hack that to be very very odd.0 -
I don't know where you got the impression that I was in favour of entering Iraq. I believe in judging a president's legacy not only by what they create, but also how they action what they inherit. I agree that the US should have stayed out of Iraq, and shame on Bush for that. His scorecard reads poorly for that. As for Obama, he inherited a mess and if you ask the Iraqis about the last eight years, they may not have such nice things to say.Halifax2TheMax said:First part to you and second part to both you and BS, BS, BS. The WaPo link below, if it works, has an article on why the US should have stayed out of Iraq. If it doesn't work, try to find the WaPo article on the CIA interrogation of Sadam Hussein.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
Dick Cheney sold the US' soul to the devil and forever ruined what little prestige and decency the US had left. Dick Cheney made pre-emptive regime change the US' foreign policy doctrine and the unjustified invasion of Iraq has lead to the US losing all of its so called moral authority. Ain't no President putting that genie back in the bottle. Someone should ask Trump how well he thinks GWB sleeps at night.
I think Obama played the hand that was dealt to him just as well as he could have. Some other member of the "coalition of the willing" can go all in for the pot. We've wasted enough on this boondoggle.
I'll readily admit my choice of words was flawed by saying "an initially volatile country should not be invaded" - America either created or exacerbated that scenario by entering the country.
To say "we've made enough of a mess, let's walk away" is like creating a lethal weapon, recognizing the danger, and feeling that it's best left on the street for someone to grab. You've created the potential danger, and accepted a lack of control of said potential for danger. I truly can't comprehend why people find it so hard to be anti-initial Iraqi invasion, yet anti-sufficiently-useful Iraqi invasion given that the invasion took place. I feel that for all undue harm you apply on a person, you are the owner of his or her misery until you aspire and act to correct the dangerous direction. I feel this extends to one government (not administration) inducing misery on a population as well.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Please link where I "championed" a war in Yemen or advocated for 170,000 troops in Iraq. You couldn't do it the last time I asked but if you have new evidence please share it. You seem to think that if your repeat something often enough then it magically becomes true...how Trumpian of you.Halifax2TheMax said:
It does make me wonder if his opinions would be the same when its your country paying the price for failed policies. Does it make them moot? No, please express them. I'm just going to think they're wrong and call you out on it. Easier to say shit when you don't have any skin in the game. Go ahead, ask BS how that splendid little war in Yemen is going? The one he championed in the spring and thought it would be great for the US to get more involved with the Saudis and crush the rebellion. And I'll say, let Canada get involved. Please stick around and explain to me why failed neocon policy should be US foreign policy, please, please, please?HughFreakingDillon said:
so because canada doesn't get involved, his opinion is moot? does that mean I should just stroll on outta here and head off to AET too?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because there's a Canadian on these boards who harps on the failure of this US policy or that US policy and thinks the best policy is for the US to occupy Iraq for 50 years with170,000 troops and get involved in Syria and Yemen with failed neocon policy. All at my tax dollar's and nation's expense. When Canada, Canada, Canada ponies up and spends three trillion US dollars taming the Middle East, I'll stop harping.HughFreakingDillon said:
why do you keep harping on canadian involvment/non-involvment in foreign conflicts? my government's refusal to participate does not negate the opinion of the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anything having to do with the Middle East has to do with Israel. But nothing 170,000 Canadian troops couldn't solve, solve, solve.BS44325 said:
ahhh...I get it now...it's about Israel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Whatever happened to allowing people to choose their destiny rather than have it provided for them? Democracy is messy. But you're okay with continued support of corrupt dictators and governments as long as it serves Israel's purpose. I get, get, get that. Let me know when the first waves of Canadian troops land to stop the genocide. I'll be sure to thank you for your contribution.BS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...0 -
What should Americas role in Syria be in your opinion?BS44325 said:
Please link where I "championed" a war in Yemen or advocated for 170,000 troops in Iraq. You couldn't do it the last time I asked but if you have new evidence please share it. You seem to think that if your repeat something often enough then it magically becomes true...how Trumpian of you.Halifax2TheMax said:
It does make me wonder if his opinions would be the same when its your country paying the price for failed policies. Does it make them moot? No, please express them. I'm just going to think they're wrong and call you out on it. Easier to say shit when you don't have any skin in the game. Go ahead, ask BS how that splendid little war in Yemen is going? The one he championed in the spring and thought it would be great for the US to get more involved with the Saudis and crush the rebellion. And I'll say, let Canada get involved. Please stick around and explain to me why failed neocon policy should be US foreign policy, please, please, please?HughFreakingDillon said:
so because canada doesn't get involved, his opinion is moot? does that mean I should just stroll on outta here and head off to AET too?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because there's a Canadian on these boards who harps on the failure of this US policy or that US policy and thinks the best policy is for the US to occupy Iraq for 50 years with170,000 troops and get involved in Syria and Yemen with failed neocon policy. All at my tax dollar's and nation's expense. When Canada, Canada, Canada ponies up and spends three trillion US dollars taming the Middle East, I'll stop harping.HughFreakingDillon said:
why do you keep harping on canadian involvment/non-involvment in foreign conflicts? my government's refusal to participate does not negate the opinion of the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anything having to do with the Middle East has to do with Israel. But nothing 170,000 Canadian troops couldn't solve, solve, solve.BS44325 said:
ahhh...I get it now...it's about Israel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Whatever happened to allowing people to choose their destiny rather than have it provided for them? Democracy is messy. But you're okay with continued support of corrupt dictators and governments as long as it serves Israel's purpose. I get, get, get that. Let me know when the first waves of Canadian troops land to stop the genocide. I'll be sure to thank you for your contribution.BS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...0 -
OK, where are all those Patriots with their constant raging hard-ons for overthrowing the government over any perceived some slight against the will of the American people?JC29856 said:
What's never ever mentioned by the sanctity of the vote hypocritical democrats:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Excellent point jv.
The libs/radlibs are getting so scattered w/ their thoughts they even attack their own.
Liberal thoughts cause nasty people.
100% verifiable proof and multiple examples of the DNC and Clinton campaign undermining democracy in the primaries and sabotaging primary opponents, but funny there were ZERO calls for protests, ZERO calls for recounts and ZERO calls for delegates to flip and vote their conscience. Interesting.
I hack that to be very very odd.
Or does that only count when they're asked to please not hunt raccoons with a grenade launcher on the elementary school playground, or worse yet, when the First Lady has the gall to suggest taking an occasional brisk walk and not eating fried Snickers bars for dinner?
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Bernie supporters were protesting all over Philly, are you kidding? The Dem convention was a huge embarrassment, but little was mentioned on mainstream media, siding of course with establishment for Hillary.JC29856 said:
What's never ever mentioned by the sanctity of the vote hypocritical democrats:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Excellent point jv.
The libs/radlibs are getting so scattered w/ their thoughts they even attack their own.
Liberal thoughts cause nasty people.
100% verifiable proof and multiple examples of the DNC and Clinton campaign undermining democracy in the primaries and sabotaging primary opponents, but funny there were ZERO calls for protests, ZERO calls for recounts and ZERO calls for delegates to flip and vote their conscience. Interesting.
I hack that to be very very odd.
This is all about establishment Dems. Poor babies.0 -
Well, at least you've admitted to Trump's strategy. And you seemingly support him, blinded thus by your ideology. And when did you previously ask me to provide such evidence? Are you denying that those were your positions? Slippery, slippery, slippery!!!BS44325 said:
Please link where I "championed" a war in Yemen or advocated for 170,000 troops in Iraq. You couldn't do it the last time I asked but if you have new evidence please share it. You seem to think that if your repeat something often enough then it magically becomes true...how Trumpian of you.Halifax2TheMax said:
It does make me wonder if his opinions would be the same when its your country paying the price for failed policies. Does it make them moot? No, please express them. I'm just going to think they're wrong and call you out on it. Easier to say shit when you don't have any skin in the game. Go ahead, ask BS how that splendid little war in Yemen is going? The one he championed in the spring and thought it would be great for the US to get more involved with the Saudis and crush the rebellion. And I'll say, let Canada get involved. Please stick around and explain to me why failed neocon policy should be US foreign policy, please, please, please?HughFreakingDillon said:
so because canada doesn't get involved, his opinion is moot? does that mean I should just stroll on outta here and head off to AET too?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because there's a Canadian on these boards who harps on the failure of this US policy or that US policy and thinks the best policy is for the US to occupy Iraq for 50 years with170,000 troops and get involved in Syria and Yemen with failed neocon policy. All at my tax dollar's and nation's expense. When Canada, Canada, Canada ponies up and spends three trillion US dollars taming the Middle East, I'll stop harping.HughFreakingDillon said:
why do you keep harping on canadian involvment/non-involvment in foreign conflicts? my government's refusal to participate does not negate the opinion of the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anything having to do with the Middle East has to do with Israel. But nothing 170,000 Canadian troops couldn't solve, solve, solve.BS44325 said:
ahhh...I get it now...it's about Israel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Whatever happened to allowing people to choose their destiny rather than have it provided for them? Democracy is messy. But you're okay with continued support of corrupt dictators and governments as long as it serves Israel's purpose. I get, get, get that. Let me know when the first waves of Canadian troops land to stop the genocide. I'll be sure to thank you for your contribution.BS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well, Wikileaks does have the word "leaks"in it and Julian Astrange does consider himself a leaker, yes? Or is it "fighter for the truth" or "rapist?"JC29856 said:
LEAKERS!!!!! Did he say LEAKERS???JC29856 said:Shhh....
“All signs point to leaking, not hacking. If hacking were involved, the National Security Agency would know it – and know both sender and recipient.
In short, since leaking requires physically removing data – on a thumb drive, for example …
NSA is able to identify both the sender and recipient when hacking is involved….The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network…
The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating – saying things like “our best guess” or “our opinion” or “our estimate” etc. – shows that the emails alleged to have been “hacked” cannot be traced across the network. Given NSA’s extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.
The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.” (“US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims“, Consortium News)
Bottom line: Leaked not hacked. Thus, the MSM “Putin did it” version = Bullshit.
Link:
https://youtu.be/w2c0pYm44W4?t=1h3m50s
...and part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them by raising more and more questions about the integrity of the election...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Yeah I remember now, just before the convention Obama Biden Pelosi and Reid calling for an investigation of the DNC, I remember DWS, Tanden, and Stein calling for caucus recounts, I remember Podesta, Charlie Sheen and George Clooney calling for delegates to vote their conscience. I explicitly remember Bernie Sanders calling for protests and telling his supporters to not accept the results of the convention. I usually have a better memory, I may have drunk too many GMOs that week.Free said:
Bernie supporters were protesting all over Philly, are you kidding? The Dem convention was a huge embarrassment, but little was mentioned on mainstream media, siding of course with establishment for Hillary.JC29856 said:
What's never ever mentioned by the sanctity of the vote hypocritical democrats:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Excellent point jv.
The libs/radlibs are getting so scattered w/ their thoughts they even attack their own.
Liberal thoughts cause nasty people.
100% verifiable proof and multiple examples of the DNC and Clinton campaign undermining democracy in the primaries and sabotaging primary opponents, but funny there were ZERO calls for protests, ZERO calls for recounts and ZERO calls for delegates to flip and vote their conscience. Interesting.
I hack that to be very very odd.
This is all about establishment Dems. Poor babies.0 -
Admitted Trump's strategy? I have been saying the same thing about Trump since the moment he came down that escalator. Your response makes it clear that you do not read people's posts. It also makes it clear you don't even understand the difference between Trump's ideology (if he even has one) and my own. You toss out things like "Yemen" and "170,000 troops" based on narratives created in your own head. It is quite sad to seeh how your post-trump victory emotions have gotten the better of you. Previously you at least used to make an attempt at tackling issues but now you have just descended into a Trumpian style debater. It's as if his twitter feed has taken root on these boards.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, at least you've admitted to Trump's strategy. And you seemingly support him, blinded thus by your ideology. And when did you previously ask me to provide such evidence? Are you denying that those were your positions? Slippery, slippery, slippery!!!BS44325 said:
Please link where I "championed" a war in Yemen or advocated for 170,000 troops in Iraq. You couldn't do it the last time I asked but if you have new evidence please share it. You seem to think that if your repeat something often enough then it magically becomes true...how Trumpian of you.Halifax2TheMax said:
It does make me wonder if his opinions would be the same when its your country paying the price for failed policies. Does it make them moot? No, please express them. I'm just going to think they're wrong and call you out on it. Easier to say shit when you don't have any skin in the game. Go ahead, ask BS how that splendid little war in Yemen is going? The one he championed in the spring and thought it would be great for the US to get more involved with the Saudis and crush the rebellion. And I'll say, let Canada get involved. Please stick around and explain to me why failed neocon policy should be US foreign policy, please, please, please?HughFreakingDillon said:
so because canada doesn't get involved, his opinion is moot? does that mean I should just stroll on outta here and head off to AET too?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because there's a Canadian on these boards who harps on the failure of this US policy or that US policy and thinks the best policy is for the US to occupy Iraq for 50 years with170,000 troops and get involved in Syria and Yemen with failed neocon policy. All at my tax dollar's and nation's expense. When Canada, Canada, Canada ponies up and spends three trillion US dollars taming the Middle East, I'll stop harping.HughFreakingDillon said:
why do you keep harping on canadian involvment/non-involvment in foreign conflicts? my government's refusal to participate does not negate the opinion of the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anything having to do with the Middle East has to do with Israel. But nothing 170,000 Canadian troops couldn't solve, solve, solve.BS44325 said:
ahhh...I get it now...it's about Israel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Whatever happened to allowing people to choose their destiny rather than have it provided for them? Democracy is messy. But you're okay with continued support of corrupt dictators and governments as long as it serves Israel's purpose. I get, get, get that. Let me know when the first waves of Canadian troops land to stop the genocide. I'll be sure to thank you for your contribution.BS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...0 -
Russia hacks US elections allowing Trump to become president elect. Unconfirmed reports the CIA and FBI agree that Russia Russia Russia "interfered" in the election, DHS and NSA silent. US democracy has been hacked, CIA and FBI heads refuse to brief congress instead un-named anonymous sources go to press. An investigation is underway and the findings will be released sometime around January 20th.
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Strictly humanitarian at this point. In the background however the screws need to be turned on Russia and Iran as much as possible. Assad's days are numbered but it shouldn't be the west's direct goal to remove him. The goal should be to put pressure on those who support him and he will hopefully collapse from within. This pressure can come in both direct and indirect ways but it should be made clear that supporting a war criminal who has used chemical weapons on his own people is a real red line. Presence of western troops in the region will have to be reevaluated based on how the facts on the ground have evolved over the last brutal year. It may be necessary in time to return troops to Iraq to beat back Iranian penetration.my2hands said:
What should Americas role in Syria be in your opinion?BS44325 said:
Please link where I "championed" a war in Yemen or advocated for 170,000 troops in Iraq. You couldn't do it the last time I asked but if you have new evidence please share it. You seem to think that if your repeat something often enough then it magically becomes true...how Trumpian of you.Halifax2TheMax said:
It does make me wonder if his opinions would be the same when its your country paying the price for failed policies. Does it make them moot? No, please express them. I'm just going to think they're wrong and call you out on it. Easier to say shit when you don't have any skin in the game. Go ahead, ask BS how that splendid little war in Yemen is going? The one he championed in the spring and thought it would be great for the US to get more involved with the Saudis and crush the rebellion. And I'll say, let Canada get involved. Please stick around and explain to me why failed neocon policy should be US foreign policy, please, please, please?HughFreakingDillon said:
so because canada doesn't get involved, his opinion is moot? does that mean I should just stroll on outta here and head off to AET too?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because there's a Canadian on these boards who harps on the failure of this US policy or that US policy and thinks the best policy is for the US to occupy Iraq for 50 years with170,000 troops and get involved in Syria and Yemen with failed neocon policy. All at my tax dollar's and nation's expense. When Canada, Canada, Canada ponies up and spends three trillion US dollars taming the Middle East, I'll stop harping.HughFreakingDillon said:
why do you keep harping on canadian involvment/non-involvment in foreign conflicts? my government's refusal to participate does not negate the opinion of the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anything having to do with the Middle East has to do with Israel. But nothing 170,000 Canadian troops couldn't solve, solve, solve.BS44325 said:
ahhh...I get it now...it's about Israel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Whatever happened to allowing people to choose their destiny rather than have it provided for them? Democracy is messy. But you're okay with continued support of corrupt dictators and governments as long as it serves Israel's purpose. I get, get, get that. Let me know when the first waves of Canadian troops land to stop the genocide. I'll be sure to thank you for your contribution.BS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...0 -
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Wow, you really don't knkw what's going on in the middle eastBS44325 said:
It was titled A New Beginning. It was applauded by the globalist elite and certainly gave comfort to the liberal forces that participated in the Arab Spring and the Green Revolution. In of itself it was not a bad speech but the major defect is that Obama believed his own rhetoric was powerful enough to usher in a new era of freedom through words and a draw down of the American presence. This was horribly naive and it resulted in the crushing of moderates across the region. Be it the Green Revolution, the overthrow of Mubarak, the overthrow of Gaddafi, Turkey, Iraq, you name it the absence of western power and support allowed the worst actors to further tighten their grips on their oppressed populations. The Cairo speech lit the fuse for great hope but the absence of resolve turned that hope into genocide.HughFreakingDillon said:
consequences of the cairo speech??BS44325 said:
The AMT is aware...they just don't want to confront this administration's utter failure in dealing with it. This is Hope and Change, the light footprint, the consequences of the Cairo speech on full display. Heckuva job Barry.polaris_x said:
i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...dignin said:
I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.polaris_x said:
it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...CM189191 said:
since 1917polaris_x said:
and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?CM189191 said:
High standards:polaris_x said:
I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...CM189191 said:I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
...thoughts?
-The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
-The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.
Corporate Agendas:
-Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
-NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
-BBC is a British public service broadcaster
-AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency
These are reputable news organizations.
this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...
it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Is there an iota of truth to this statement?
Both President Obama and President-elect Donald Trump believe the United States never should have invaded Iraq in 2003 (or, at least, Trump claims he now does). The war in Iraq and its chaotic aftermath in many ways prefigure the present moment in the Middle East; it triggered a sectarian unraveling that now haunts both Iraq and Syria and looms large in the minds of an Obama administration wary of further intervention in the region's conflicts
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/saddam-hussein-should-have-been-left-to-run-iraq-says-cia-officer-who-interrogated-him/ar-AAlFmSr?ocid=spartanntp0
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