Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?
    since 1917

    it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...

    this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...

    it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...
    Two things that are very difficult to do, maintain an open mind thoughout life and untrain your mind and think for yourself. The truth is likely unattainable, at least on earth, if you don't have a desire for truth, then you certainly won't get any semblance of it. Not to get too philosophical but truth and love are very similar in that way.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dignin said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?
    since 1917

    it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...

    this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...

    it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...
    I think most of us are aware of what is happening in Syria and the medias coverage of it. My guess is we all have differing opinions of what is going on. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here, because this thread isn't supposed to be about that. Were going way off into the weeds.
    i'm pretty sure most people are not aware of what is happening in syria ... judging by the lack of discussion on that thread ... but you're right in that this isn't the thread for it ... I just wanted to show that those supposed unbiased sources of media do not always report the truth ...
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?
    since 1917

    it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...

    this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...

    it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...
    You believe profits are incompatible with a quality product? Yes news organizations are there to make money, but if they don't deliver a quality product, consumers don't trust them and their revenue declines.

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.
  • ^^^
    6 companies delivered the news that Hillary was going to win because all the polls said so.
    6 companies also delivered the news that there was no way a guy like Donald Trump can win.
    6 companies that deliver %90 of the news media is full of shit.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?
    since 1917

    it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...

    this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...

    it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...
    You believe profits are incompatible with a quality product? Yes news organizations are there to make money, but if they don't deliver a quality product, consumers don't trust them and their revenue declines.

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.
    you got to be kidding me ... then why is fox news and cnn still alive and kicking? ... why are any of the outlets that are on that chart of yours that show "poor product" still around?

    the fake news story should tell us one thing ... that the majority of the public is gullible and lazy ... I have offered you proof of their complicity in the propaganda campaign the US and it's allies are waging in Syria ... so, you can go research that yourself or you can continue to defend something that based on awards they hand out to each other ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
  • polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
    I missed this if it was stated earlier, which media company is this?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    edited December 2016

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
    I missed this if it was stated earlier, which media company is this?
    NBC was owned by GE who is probably in the top 20 in sales in weapons manufacturing ... now - you have to look into the coporations that own the media companies and their ties to the council of foreign relations which is a think tank that drives US foreign policy ...
    Post edited by polaris_x on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Only state sponsored million rubles hacking can brute force thru this encryption!!!

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    PASSWORD: p@ssw0rd
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016
    What's the old Hawaiian saying:
    Poo or get off the pot

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/12/16/europe/russia-us-hacking-claims-peskov/index.html

    Russia challenges US to prove campaign hacking claims or shut up
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    dignin said:

    Free said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    Major FACE PALM.

    Mainstream media is owned by 6 corporations. I'll say it again. Mainstream media is privately owned by only six corporations. And just because they win Pulitzer Prize does not mean they're not biased, nor accurate!

    Seriously, do your own research and find out the truth. These media stations that you cite as reputable, prize winners, non-biased? You are being fooled into thinking such a thing. Wake up. This is why we have so many people believing what they hear on the news.
    Can you provide some examples of where you get your reliable news from?
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    edited December 2016
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    and since when do pulitzer prizes mean anything?
    since 1917

    it's interesting that i write all that stuff about syria and there's not a lick of a response ...

    this is the thing with the mainstream media ... sometimes they don't know they are being played ... that these propaganda campaigns put forth by western countries uses them as tools ... folks have to understand that the primary reason these media outlets are in place is to make money ... sell advertising and make profits ... profiteering doesn't necessarily translate to lying ... it just means that they are less likely to send independent investigators to cover a story when they can get it bulk from a lot of places ... especially in a conflict like syria ... currently, the UN reporting on syria is based on organizations that are tied to the US who is undergoing a regime change campaign ...

    it's the same reasons why most americans think of fidel castro as some evil tyrannical dictator ... it works when people aren't interested in figuring things out themselves ...
    You believe profits are incompatible with a quality product? Yes news organizations are there to make money, but if they don't deliver a quality product, consumers don't trust them and their revenue declines.

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.
    The problem is that 'quality' is not always the exclusive (or even most significant) factor in a customer's buying decision - it starts out with asking why a customer buys a product. A customer buys a phone for any number of reasons (either perceived or real): quality, aesthetics, the status associated with owning it, its expandability with apps, and (crazy as it is) its quality of actually phoning people. A customer buys into the media and tunes in regularly for two main reasons that I can think of (either perceived or real): education, and entertainment - both of which can be of high or low quality. Unfortunately, I think it's been ages since the media has focused on true education for any number of reasons (the diminishing attention span of my generation, the "how does this affect my life" mentality of humans, the unhappiness brought upon by learning that you are wrong and the smug satisfaction brought upon by learning that you are right - aka confirmation bias, and many others).

    The potential for profit per person for a media organization, just like the potential for votes per person for a politician, are equal regardless of level of intelligence. If the intelligentsia are seeking education and the non-intelligentsia (I don't know what other word to use there) are seeking entertainment, and the media organizations don't feel a moral obligation to educate (and I don't think that they do), then the focus will inevitably become appealing to the largest audience. You can guess which group I feel that is.

    Edit: In addition to this, media organizations looking to both entertain and educate also align themselves with a specific subset of the sociopolitical spectrum because they understand the value of confirmation bias, in creating recurring customers.
    Post edited by benjs on
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  • CM189191
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    polaris_x said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
    I missed this if it was stated earlier, which media company is this?
    NBC was owned by GE who is probably in the top 20 in sales in weapons manufacturing ... now - you have to look into the coporations that own the media companies and their ties to the council of foreign relations which is a think tank that drives US foreign policy ...
    What does NBC & GE have to do with NPR, BBC AP, Reuters?

    Also, GE makes about 70000000 products besides weapons. I don't know what the profit margin is on a missile, but I imagine GE would rather be selling washing machines.

    Furthermore, the companies that profit the most from arms sales aren't even affiliated with media companies:
    Lockheed Martin
    BAE Systems
    Boeing
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
    I missed this if it was stated earlier, which media company is this?
    NBC was owned by GE who is probably in the top 20 in sales in weapons manufacturing ... now - you have to look into the coporations that own the media companies and their ties to the council of foreign relations which is a think tank that drives US foreign policy ...
    What does NBC & GE have to do with NPR, BBC AP, Reuters?

    Also, GE makes about 70000000 products besides weapons. I don't know what the profit margin is on a missile, but I imagine GE would rather be selling washing machines.

    Furthermore, the companies that profit the most from arms sales aren't even affiliated with media companies:
    Lockheed Martin
    BAE Systems
    Boeing
    * NBC was one of the media companies on your trust circle
    * Do you believe in war profiteering and the military industrial complex? If not - then fundamentally, we have different viewpoints of how global geopolitical issues work and really does not allow for us to come to an understanding.
    * Boeing has ties to the Council of Foreign Relations which the media companies are all part of. This think tank drives US foreign policy and in general its all about profiteering and economic imperialism.
    * The way to convince the public its ok to fund Syrian terrorists, bomb Yemen and negotiate with the Taliban is through public propaganda campaigns and for this you need media companies on board. You need them to craft the story such as Iraq and WMD.
  • polaris_x
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    i know i continue to participate in a slight derailing of this thread but really ... all these threads are tied to the same thing ... fake news, syria and us motives, us hypocrisy and us dumbing down ...

    it all speaks to how governments use media outlets to control information and how ultimately governments are doing the work for corporations ...
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Which do I have a better chance of seeing?
    A. Pearl Jam play in Jerusalem 12.31.16 opening with speed Wash
    Or
    B. Two of these seven questions answered?

    1/ The DNC hackers inserted the name of the founder of Russian intelligence, in Russian, in the metadata of the hacked documents. Why would the G.R.U., Russian military intelligence do that?

    2/ If the hackers were indeed part of Russian intelligence, why did they use a free Russian email account, or, in the hack of the state election systems, a Russian-owned killchain2server? Does Russian intelligence normally display such poor tradecraft?

    3/ Why would Russian intelligence, for the purposes of hacking the election systems of Arizona and Illinois, book space on a Russian-owned server and then use only English, as documents furnished by Vladimir Fomenko, proprietor of Kings Servers, the company that owned the server in question, clearly indicate?

    4/ Numerous reports ascribe the hacks to hacking groups known as APT 28 or “Fancy Bear” and APT 29 or “Cozy Bear.” But these groups had already been accused of nefarious actions on behalf of Russian intelligence prior to the hacks under discussion. Why would the Kremlin and its intelligence agencies select well-known groups to conduct a regime-change operation on the most powerful country on earth?

    5/ It has been reported in the New York Times, without attribution, that U.S. intelligence has identified specific G.R.U. officials who directed the hacking. Is this true, and if so, please provide details (Witness should be sworn)

    6/ The joint statement issued by the DNI and DHS on October 7 2016 confirmed that US intelligence had no evidence of official Russian involvement in the leak of hacked documents to Wikileaks, etc, saying only that the leaks were “consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts.” Has the US acquired any evidence whatsoever since that time regarding Russian involvement in the leaks?

    7/ Since the most effective initiative in tipping the election to Donald Trump was the intervention of FBI Director Comey, are you investigating any possible connections he might have to Russian intelligence and Vladimir Putin?
  • Answer to 1-4 is quite simple, plausible deniability. The others require an independent counsel to look into as well as Trump, Trump, trump's campaign for either advanced knowledge, quid pro quo and/or Russian, Russian, Russian financing of Trump projects.
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    polaris_x said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    The fact that 6 companies deliver 90% of the news media is a testament to their reliability, not some conspiracy to deliver misinformation.

    and this right here is sad ... you honestly don't see a problem with a weapons manufacturer owning a media company!?
    I missed this if it was stated earlier, which media company is this?
    NBC was owned by GE who is probably in the top 20 in sales in weapons manufacturing ... now - you have to look into the coporations that own the media companies and their ties to the council of foreign relations which is a think tank that drives US foreign policy ...
    NBC now owned by Comcast......
    Comcast intended to buy out the rest of GE's stake of NBC Universal over the following seven years. Ownership remained split at 51%–49% for four years. Then, on February 12, 2013, Comcast announced its intention to complete the purchase all at once and assume 100% ownership of the company by the end of March.The acquisition was completed March 19, 2013.
  • #7 like there have never been spies, moles, double agents or induviduals within US intelligence that have been flipped. Quite possible and it should be fully investigated. Hansen, Hansen, Hansen.
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    dignin said:

    Free said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...
    High standards:
    -The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news organization
    -The Washington Post has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year, second only to The New York Times' seven awards in 2002.[8] Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.

    Corporate Agendas:
    -Thomson Reuters Corporation is a multinational mass media and information firm. What agenda could they possibly have other than to provide accurate and timely information at a reasonable price?
    -NPR is an American privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization.
    -BBC is a British public service broadcaster
    -AP is an American multinational nonprofit news agency

    These are reputable news organizations.
    Major FACE PALM.

    Mainstream media is owned by 6 corporations. I'll say it again. Mainstream media is privately owned by only six corporations. And just because they win Pulitzer Prize does not mean they're not biased, nor accurate!

    Seriously, do your own research and find out the truth. These media stations that you cite as reputable, prize winners, non-biased? You are being fooled into thinking such a thing. Wake up. This is why we have so many people believing what they hear on the news.
    Can you provide some examples of where you get your reliable news from?
    earthweareone memes on facebook, I'm guessing.
    That's what I suspect. It's also telling that Free ignored the question. Lot's of talking down about how others get their information, but won't tell us where they get theirs from.