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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Question for Cali folks... when do recreational sales begin?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    oftenreading said:

    weddingparade said:

    ya'll want another wave to ponder?
    all of canada. every province, from shore to shore, will have legal rec cannabis in early 2017

    Proposed, yes; you're getting a little bit ahead of yourself since there are probably still hurdles but I'm sure we'll get there at some point. And thumbs up for that, so we can get away from the current sham of our "medicinal marijuana" program.
    Well, when your pm all but promises it, i have every confidence it will be a reality. But our agreement with the UN is a major hurdle.

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  • weddingparade
    weddingparade Posts: 1,179
    HughFreakingDillon said:


    Well, when your pm all but promises it, i have every confidence it will be a reality. But our agreement with the UN is a major hurdle.

    what did the UN say when 1/5 of all americans just went GREEN LIGHT GO with rec cannabis? nothing is my guess. ;)
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    weddingparade said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:


    Well, when your pm all but promises it, i have every confidence it will be a reality. But our agreement with the UN is a major hurdle.

    what did the UN say when 1/5 of all americans just went GREEN LIGHT GO with rec cannabis? nothing is my guess. ;)
    Federal regulation is a different story. The US federal government still has it classified as an illegal drug.
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  • weddingparade
    weddingparade Posts: 1,179
    got cha. but i still bet the un wont say boo to canada. the war on cannabis has failed x10. putting people in jail for cannabis is insane, giving them criminal records is crazy as well, and everyone knows this, times have changed. even the un has got to face reality sooner or later. the wave has started and it is obviously picking up momentum and that's not even mentioning all the other countries that have softened and even made cannabis legal/decriminalized already. the dayz of reefer madness are over. this is not a big issue with the un is my guess. they have much bigger problems these days.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,314
    Denver now lets you smoke pot in restaurants and bars ... but I bet if you tried to smoke tobacco you would be tackled and fined.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    weddingparade said:

    got cha. but i still bet the un wont say boo to canada. the war on cannabis has failed x10. putting people in jail for cannabis is insane, giving them criminal records is crazy as well, and everyone knows this, times have changed. even the un has got to face reality sooner or later. the wave has started and it is obviously picking up momentum and that's not even mentioning all the other countries that have softened and even made cannabis legal/decriminalized already. the dayz of reefer madness are over. this is not a big issue with the un is my guess. they have much bigger problems these days.

    There aren't actually a lot of countries that have moved to legalize or decriminalize, and the distinction is important anyway. Portugal decriminalized, for a variety of reasons, one of which was also being a signatory to the UN agreement. Their decriminalization structure does not contravene that document. The Netherlands have neither legalized or decriminalzed, contrary to popular opinion; they simply officially tolerate small (very small) quantities of marijuana. Uruguay is pretty much the only country that has federally completely legalized. I think they are basically just ignoring the UN and I don't think there have been any repercussions but I could be wrong. Is the UN more likely to respond as more countries legalize, or will they accept the direction the world is going? And what approach will Canada take - options are to try to renegotiate the agreement, drop out, or ignore the issue and hope it goes away. Those are some of the unknowns at this point.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    I can't see dropping out of the UN just so we can smoke weed. that would be epic though.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    Wtf is the UN's problem, anyway? Jesus, get with the times UN.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    oftenreading said:

    weddingparade said:

    got cha. but i still bet the un wont say boo to canada. the war on cannabis has failed x10. putting people in jail for cannabis is insane, giving them criminal records is crazy as well, and everyone knows this, times have changed. even the un has got to face reality sooner or later. the wave has started and it is obviously picking up momentum and that's not even mentioning all the other countries that have softened and even made cannabis legal/decriminalized already. the dayz of reefer madness are over. this is not a big issue with the un is my guess. they have much bigger problems these days.

    There aren't actually a lot of countries that have moved to legalize or decriminalize, and the distinction is important anyway. Portugal decriminalized, for a variety of reasons, one of which was also being a signatory to the UN agreement. Their decriminalization structure does not contravene that document. The Netherlands have neither legalized or decriminalzed, contrary to popular opinion; they simply officially tolerate small (very small) quantities of marijuana. Uruguay is pretty much the only country that has federally completely legalized. I think they are basically just ignoring the UN and I don't think there have been any repercussions but I could be wrong. Is the UN more likely to respond as more countries legalize, or will they accept the direction the world is going? And what approach will Canada take - options are to try to renegotiate the agreement, drop out, or ignore the issue and hope it goes away. Those are some of the unknowns at this point.
    I'd just ignore the UN at this point. Much like states in the U.S. are ignoring the feds. I can't imagine any negative actions would be taken against Canada. I would imagine the US would simply veto any proposed sanctions.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I imagine we will just ignore the accord, too. It will probably be quite some time before it's updated since there are at the least dozens of signatories (hundreds?) and most of them are still firmly pro-criminalization.

    And we would really cement our world image as stoners if we dropped out of the UN on those grounds.
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    with all the people here dropping dead from K2 and other synthetic pot Missouri needs to get on board with legalizing marijuana, as well as the rest of the country

    this coming from someone that doesn't even smoke pot anymore
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:

    Synthetic cannabinoids are designer drugs that are chemically different from the chemicals in cannabis but which are sold with claims that they give the effects of cannabis. When these chemicals are sprayed or otherwise soaked into a base material which is often plant-based, then the plant with chemicals is sometimes misleadingly called synthetic marijuana.[1] These products are sold for recreational drug use.[1]

    There are several psychoactive artificial cannabinoid families (e.g. AM-xxx, HU-xxx, JWH-xxx, CP xx) that are sold under brand names like K2[2] and Spice,[3] both of which are now used as generic terms used for any synthetic cannabinoid product.

    When synthetic cannabinoid blends first went on sale in the early 2000s, it was thought that they achieved an effect through a mixture of natural herbs. Laboratory analysis in 2008 showed that this was not the case, and that they in fact contain synthetic cannabinoids that act on the body in a similar way to cannabinoids naturally found in cannabis, such as THC. A large and complex variety of synthetic cannabinoids, most often cannabicyclohexanol, JWH-018, JWH-073, or HU-210, are used in an attempt to avoid the laws that make cannabis illegal, making synthetic cannabinoid a designer drug. They have been sold under various brand names, online, in head shops, and other stores. Studies have associated synthetic cannabinoid use with psychotic episodes days after use, some of which have resulted in death.[4]

    They are often marketed as herbal incense or "herbal smoking blends", and the products are usually consumed through smoking. Although synthetic cannabinoids may not produce positive results in drug tests for cannabis, it is possible to detect their metabolites in human urine. The synthetic cannabinoids contained in these products have been made illegal in many countries.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:

    Fentanyl is showing up in weed now too. I am definitely glad I buy from a dispensary now. I wouldn't dare buy from a dealer at this point.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:

    Fentanyl is showing up in weed now too. I am definitely glad I buy from a dispensary now. I wouldn't dare buy from a dealer at this point.
    fuck. i'm scared to smoke mine now. i smoked some of mine. if some of it was contaminated, would all of it be? basically what i'm asking is, if i bought 2.5 grams of bud that was still intact, and smoked some, is it reasonable to believe the rest of it is safe?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    i don't get why dealers would want to sell their customers a drug that might kill them on first try. no return customers doesn't make for very good business.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:

    Fentanyl is showing up in weed now too. I am definitely glad I buy from a dispensary now. I wouldn't dare buy from a dealer at this point.
    fuck. i'm scared to smoke mine now. i smoked some of mine. if some of it was contaminated, would all of it be? basically what i'm asking is, if i bought 2.5 grams of bud that was still intact, and smoked some, is it reasonable to believe the rest of it is safe?
    Not on those grounds. Quality control, shall we say, is poor with these guys. They are not too fussed about even distribution.

    Which is one of the reasons why the fake pills sold on the street are so dangerous; the drug is not evenly mixed into the carrier compound.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    so should i be concerned?
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,252
    PJ_Soul said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    what the hell is synthetic pot? I'd look it up but I really don't want to google search that while at work. :pensive:

    Fentanyl is showing up in weed now too. I am definitely glad I buy from a dispensary now. I wouldn't dare buy from a dealer at this point.
    I might need to move to Vancouver.
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